I'd say for facial features I'm about a 5.5/10 for white men. I think my overall physical appearance is about a 6.5-7/10. The biggest issue for me personally for relationships is I mostly just want to have sex. I don't actually find women enjoyable for much outside of sex. I like small talk, hanging out, cuddling, watching movies but I hate dating and I hate being on a woman's beck and call. I just like doing what I feel like. I can in fact attract 7-7.5/10 women but these women are always the reformed slut types. They rode the cock carousel and see me as the guy they're going to settle down with, out up the white picket fence, tick their boxes for "marriage" and live a life of keeping up with the Joneses. I have 0 interest in this type of lifestyle with a woman. I want to be the cock on the carousel she's riding but I can only attract 4-5/10 women for that. The 7-7.5/10 women can find 8-9/10 men to ride if that's all they want instead of me. The 4-5/10 women though are too ugly for me to be bothered to have sex with so that basically puts me into Incel territory. For me to have a standard monogamous long-term relationship with a woman, the relationship would have to be under my terms which would be very non-standard compared to most relationships. When a 7/10 decides to settle for me, she sees herself as lowering her standards already so she thinks she should be the one dictating terms for the relationship and I'm not about to compromise on anything just for the sake of making something work. Either it works for me or it doesn't and the kind of relationship most women want doesn't work for me. But ironically, if I was a 9-10/10 man, then the relationship I wanted with the woman would work. The only reason women negotiate for a relationship style they want with men like me is because they think they're doing men like me a favor giving me attention when I'd rather just be single than engage in a relationship structure that's driven by what the woman wants. So that's why I'm single... but I'm in the top 0.35% of men so if women think men are less like me the further they go up, they're sadly mistaken.
Interesting write up, thanks for that. My situation is that I absolutely refuse to uproot my life for a woman who doesn't significantly improve my quality of life, and those improvements simply aren't realistic in today's dating scene. I also refuse cohabitation, marriage, and kids. Since I'm not Chad no woman is going to stick around very long once she realizes that I refuse to jeopardize my future just to keep her around.
Yeah, I'd say that's basically me too. Women don't really add any value outside of sex, imo. Traditional relationships are worthless to me. Children and cohabitation are death sentences for men.
I'm about a 6.5-7.0 overall in looks but my face is above average. There's fat/chubby guys that have better faces than me but I beat them in physique. 5.5 might be a little conservative. Maybe 6 or 6.5 is better. I do think my body is better than my face and overall I'm def a 6.5-7/10 so whatever you think that would be.
I'd be fine with a 7/10 woman if she treated me like she treats 9-10/10 men or how a 4-5/10 woman treats me. I don't want a 7/10 woman treat me the way that 7/10 women do. It's not worth it for me.
Now factor in metrics that women care about such as height, weight, income, race and I'm a 9.5/10.
So I don't think it's outside the realm of reasonable to expect a 7/10 looking woman to treat me the way she would treat a 9/10 looking man despite the fact that I only am a 7/10 looking guy once all other aspects of myself are factored in.
There may be some stuff in your 'calculation' that you are missing. For one, you sound extraordinarily bitter and resentful. No one wants that sort of person around.
I'd say for facial features I'm about a 5.5/10 for white men. I think my overall physical appearance is about a 6.5-7/10. The biggest issue for me personally for relationships is I mostly just want to have sex. I don't actually find women enjoyable for much outside of sex. I like small talk, hanging out, cuddling, watching movies but I hate dating and I hate being on a woman's beck and call. I just like doing what I feel like. I can in fact attract 7-7.5/10 women but these women are always the reformed slut types. They rode the cock carousel and see me as the guy they're going to settle down with, out up the white picket fence, tick their boxes for "marriage" and live a life of keeping up with the Joneses. I have 0 interest in this type of lifestyle with a woman. I want to be the cock on the carousel she's riding but I can only attract 4-5/10 women for that. The 7-7.5/10 women can find 8-9/10 men to ride if that's all they want instead of me. The 4-5/10 women though are too ugly for me to be bothered to have sex with so that basically puts me into Incel territory. For me to have a standard monogamous long-term relationship with a woman, the relationship would have to be under my terms which would be very non-standard compared to most relationships. When a 7/10 decides to settle for me, she sees herself as lowering her standards already so she thinks she should be the one dictating terms for the relationship and I'm not about to compromise on anything just for the sake of making something work. Either it works for me or it doesn't and the kind of relationship most women want doesn't work for me. But ironically, if I was a 9-10/10 man, then the relationship I wanted with the woman would work. The only reason women negotiate for a relationship style they want with men like me is because they think they're doing men like me a favor giving me attention when I'd rather just be single than engage in a relationship structure that's driven by what the woman wants. So that's why I'm single... but I'm in the top 0.35% of men so if women think men are less like me the further they go up, they're sadly mistaken.
Interesting write up, thanks for that. My situation is that I absolutely refuse to uproot my life for a woman who doesn't significantly improve my quality of life, and those improvements simply aren't realistic in today's dating scene. I also refuse cohabitation, marriage, and kids. Since I'm not Chad no woman is going to stick around very long once she realizes that I refuse to jeopardize my future just to keep her around.
Yeah, I'd say that's basically me too. Women don't really add any value outside of sex, imo. Traditional relationships are worthless to me. Children and cohabitation are death sentences for men.
So you're saying that you're a 5.5/10, can attract 5/10s, but want 9-10s?
You need some work on your interpretation.
I'm about a 6.5-7.0 overall in looks but my face is above average. There's fat/chubby guys that have better faces than me but I beat them in physique. 5.5 might be a little conservative. Maybe 6 or 6.5 is better. I do think my body is better than my face and overall I'm def a 6.5-7/10 so whatever you think that would be.
I'd be fine with a 7/10 woman if she treated me like she treats 9-10/10 men or how a 4-5/10 woman treats me. I don't want a 7/10 woman treat me the way that 7/10 women do. It's not worth it for me.
Now factor in metrics that women care about such as height, weight, income, race and I'm a 9.5/10.
So I don't think it's outside the realm of reasonable to expect a 7/10 looking woman to treat me the way she would treat a 9/10 looking man despite the fact that I only am a 7/10 looking guy once all other aspects of myself are factored in.
There may be some stuff in your 'calculation' that you are missing. For one, you sound extraordinarily bitter and resentful. No one wants that sort of person around.