The Ohio River being a massive cultural divider between north and south has been a very common and very strange part of history, but it's impossible to argue against. Whether it's going from Ohio to Kentucky or Ohio to West Virginia, the cultural distinction is immediate and observable. West Virginia is tragic, because in Southern Ohio you can see the ruins of Steubenville, but the surrounding poor, rural, community is slowly picking up the pieces. Cross over into West Virginia, and that effort is just lost. You can see it immediately with debris strews about, projects unfinished, unrepaired cars out front, and it's a sense of real depression in the state.
What's worse is that when you go north, you are starting to see the same problem, except it's related to weed. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not big on the drug war, but you can clearly see how Michigan has started to entirely fall apart, and all you've got left are pot heads. It seems like weed is the only functioning industry. Worse, I think the mass distribution of downers like weed may also be spoiling people's ability to be ambitious and productive.
The stunning lack of ambition of people was demonstrated to me in Iraq at it's worst, where I watched a man fail to fish for 12 hours. In that same town, you could see that the only person who was putting any real effort in was the imam and his sons, mostly trying to fix or improve the mosque. Even if you are a productive person, being surrounded by unproductive people is wildly disheartening and unhelpful.
I think the mass distribution of downers like weed may also be spoiling people's ability to be ambitious and productive.
This is what the normie morons who think weed is all sunshine and daisies don't understand. A drug doesn't have to be addictive, or physically destructive to your body for it to be dangerous. What weed does is make a person okay with being bored. It makes them okay with being stuck at their current level. Sure, you could bring up the argument that it doesn't always do that for everyone. If it did, none of the 60's rock bands would have kept making music. However, most people aren't Paul McCartney, or Keith Richards, or David Gilmour. Hell, even among the hippie rock bands, a good number of them ended up dead from drugs, etc. (part of the 27 club).
My former roommate smokes weed all the time. He still works at the fast casual place I left 3 years ago. He is coming up on 6 or 7 years now still working there at the same level position. My hourly rate at my job is more than double what I made there, but his rate has barely increased by a couple dollars. He spends all his time making sandwiches and salads, then going home and smoking pot. Occasionally he will go out and drive around to places to see them, but other than that, he doesn't really do anything.
I like him, but it infuriates me how he just doesn't want to try and lift himself out of poverty. I'm not quite there yet, but I'm on a career path that eventually will. The one big difference between us is that I don't do drugs, and he does.
Not that I defend the man but I think he truly does not give a fuck.
Modern Diogenes if you will.
Does he get enough food to live another day? Yes.
Are his clothes clean enough to not smell and scratch himself constantly? Yes.
Does he need more entertainment than he already has? No.
What is so controversial in this post that warrants the downvotes? I live in Ohio and the contrast when crossing the river is pretty stark. Less so going into Kentucky, but the difference is there. Would be more productive if the people who downvoted came in with counterpoints.
Me. There are specific storm fags that have a problem with me because I oppose racialism, even when there is nothing they can actually argue about, or even disagree with.
Dude, I'd estimate that more often than not, your posts sit at 100% upvoted. Apparently the "storm fags" are able to overlook the messenger if the message is good.
About the only exception to this is when you're in a thread calling people names.
Stormfags don't comprise a majority of the site, even though they desperately want to blow it up like they did Voat. They are never able to differentiate message from messenger, that's one of the reasons I get called a jew. To them, jews are a bourgeois race. They are the cause of 100% of all problems that exist within history. Therefore, if I'm doing or saying something wrong it is because one of the following must be true: a) I am a jew, b) I am paid by jews, c) I am hypnotized by jews. No exceptions exist.
Yes, I engage in name-calling. So do they. They say worse shit than I will ever say, they say it hoping everyone will agree with them, and they get furious when someone insults them back. They can't fucking tolerate that someone in a place that isn't theirs to begin with, is allowed to call out their wild fucking behavior and blinding stupidity.
And to be honest, normally, they don't get called out because their behavior is so poisonous that most people can take one look at the thread's title and think "Oh fuck, here's another stormfag post" and just ignore it completely because they know the local Austrian Artist fans are going to be squatting on the thread and screaming about wooden doors.
Yes, I'm going to insult them because yes, we have a moral imperative to gate-keep socialists out of our forum. I'm happy to argue with them intelligently (if and only if they manage to maintain decorum), but I reserve the right to belittle them while they call me a kike-lover
Comment Approved: I don't see how. Weed users are an identity group? Is he saying that Michiganders are inferior because they are pot heads? I don't see where the issue is.
I had a pretty good idea of the people he was referring to but it really took a particular comment on the video to fill in the whole (mostly?) picture. And it rang true in my estimation. Here is that comment.
By obbkiker6861
I am a direct descendant of the people he is referencing in the video but with a significant German ancestry. Growing up in southern Appalachia, one could see the distinct cultural differences. The German people planned and worked toward future.
The British and Scots would slow or stop work when they had enough. It is my opinion that it was not sloth or laziness but rather a fatalist mentality common among poor. Why should I work and strive to lay aside for the future when it can or will be taken from me? This may well have been a cultural holdover from experiences in England and Scotland. We see this attitude in modern cultures in both the poor south and intercity inhabitants.
I read an account of a German in Ireland during the famine that amounted to "if these Irish would stop whining, they'd have plenty to eat, just as I do."
German industriousness is strange, considering the HRE didn't go down in history as having major technological, political, or economic breakthroughs, compared to Italy or England.
The fact that the Germans and Japanese accomplished as much as they did in the 19th century is a testament to their national character. Sowell has a chapter in this book just on the Germans, but it's really just an excerpt from his book "Immigration And Culture" in which he goes in insane detail about just how the Germans were able to make such a massive accomplishment during the industrial revolution.
Doesn't hurt when you've got Bismark on your side, either.
I think I'd rather be a Southerner. Sowell might wanna check who's making these comments. It sounds an awful lot like someone was trying enslave Southerners and then complaining that they didn't work hard enough.
John Caldwell Calhoun was born in Abbeville District, South Carolina on March 18, 1782. He was the fourth child of Irish-born Patrick Calhoun and his wife Martha Caldwell.
There's no appeal to authority here. You dismissed facts you didn't here. You never asked why he was correct, and you're not going to, because you don't care.
You're not even saying anything at this point. Again, you didn't read anything, and you don't care. Nobody treated him as infallible, your criticism was just worthless from the beginning.
Without looking it up, is that really his real name? If ever there was an alien that came to Earth and was trying to pass off as a human being, "Hugh Mann" would probably be the most obvious and parodic name it could ever come up with.
Post Approved: There is no identity attack here. Pointing out disparities, and identifying their cause, without resorting to claims of conspiracy, moral inferiority, or dehumanization is precisely what is happening here.
Theres a great book called The Sea Hunters by Clive Cussler that has a few chapters involving civil war wrecks (and their history). I was always so puzzled at the way the South fought the war, squandering opportunities that they either achieved or were bestowed by luck, but this explains so much of it.
Most blacks openly support black supremacist blm and hate Whites. Over 30% of blacks dont think its Ok to be White. Scott Adams got attacked by liberal occupied msm for daring to point this out.
Look at south africa and how blacks sing about genociding Whites, thats what blm wants here in the usa
That sentence alone explains the problem across all these demographics. If you wanted to be a white supremacist, you would face considerably consequence and lacked the power to really do much with that position. Whereas a black supremacist will face little backlash and generally can use that to increase their standing greatly with the right timing.
That's why I have kept it on hand as long as I have.
It doesn't just encapsulate a great point, it shows just how different things were just a short time ago where you could say something controversial and people wouldn't just scream about it, even on a fucking default subreddit.
I remember that thread. That comment is one of the biggest red pills I have ever taken. One of the examples of how ruined your life can get is this Canadian comedian (I think his name is Dave Foley but I could be wrong) who had to flee to the United States because he lost his TV show gig and couldn't keep up with the insane child support payments.
There are so many fucked up points in that comment, you could make a dozen threads here of real life examples of these things, like that kid who had to pay child support to his rapist, or men having to pay child support for kids who aren't theirs, or that guy who worked 3 jobs and eventually shot himself because he was living in a studio apartment with nothing but a burner phone and a futon and the bitch was still coming after him for money.
I wish I could have what my parents had. A good economy, a good culture, a loving spouse to come home to, some kids who love them, a quiet place away from the city. Deep down past my cynicism, my heart aches and yearns for it. But I'll likely never have that now, with the way the world is going, and how women seem hellbent on being the legal equivalent of nuclear landmines.
Honestly, I think most guys who grew up poor enough can name a real life example of their own, and all of them be uniquely horrible. We are literally surrounded by the fruits of female "empowerment" and all of them are poisonous.
I've even managed to achieve the "goal" of a loving, simple wife with some kids and my own home in a quiet place. And I'm still filled with rage at both the hellswamp I had to wade to to get here, and the infinite number of brothers I've both seen directly and heard of being dragged down to hell in it.
The Ohio River being a massive cultural divider between north and south has been a very common and very strange part of history, but it's impossible to argue against. Whether it's going from Ohio to Kentucky or Ohio to West Virginia, the cultural distinction is immediate and observable. West Virginia is tragic, because in Southern Ohio you can see the ruins of Steubenville, but the surrounding poor, rural, community is slowly picking up the pieces. Cross over into West Virginia, and that effort is just lost. You can see it immediately with debris strews about, projects unfinished, unrepaired cars out front, and it's a sense of real depression in the state.
What's worse is that when you go north, you are starting to see the same problem, except it's related to weed. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not big on the drug war, but you can clearly see how Michigan has started to entirely fall apart, and all you've got left are pot heads. It seems like weed is the only functioning industry. Worse, I think the mass distribution of downers like weed may also be spoiling people's ability to be ambitious and productive.
The stunning lack of ambition of people was demonstrated to me in Iraq at it's worst, where I watched a man fail to fish for 12 hours. In that same town, you could see that the only person who was putting any real effort in was the imam and his sons, mostly trying to fix or improve the mosque. Even if you are a productive person, being surrounded by unproductive people is wildly disheartening and unhelpful.
This is what the normie morons who think weed is all sunshine and daisies don't understand. A drug doesn't have to be addictive, or physically destructive to your body for it to be dangerous. What weed does is make a person okay with being bored. It makes them okay with being stuck at their current level. Sure, you could bring up the argument that it doesn't always do that for everyone. If it did, none of the 60's rock bands would have kept making music. However, most people aren't Paul McCartney, or Keith Richards, or David Gilmour. Hell, even among the hippie rock bands, a good number of them ended up dead from drugs, etc. (part of the 27 club).
My former roommate smokes weed all the time. He still works at the fast casual place I left 3 years ago. He is coming up on 6 or 7 years now still working there at the same level position. My hourly rate at my job is more than double what I made there, but his rate has barely increased by a couple dollars. He spends all his time making sandwiches and salads, then going home and smoking pot. Occasionally he will go out and drive around to places to see them, but other than that, he doesn't really do anything.
I like him, but it infuriates me how he just doesn't want to try and lift himself out of poverty. I'm not quite there yet, but I'm on a career path that eventually will. The one big difference between us is that I don't do drugs, and he does.
Not that I defend the man but I think he truly does not give a fuck. Modern Diogenes if you will.
Does he get enough food to live another day? Yes. Are his clothes clean enough to not smell and scratch himself constantly? Yes. Does he need more entertainment than he already has? No.
He's exactly where he wants to be in his life.
What is so controversial in this post that warrants the downvotes? I live in Ohio and the contrast when crossing the river is pretty stark. Less so going into Kentucky, but the difference is there. Would be more productive if the people who downvoted came in with counterpoints.
Me. There are specific storm fags that have a problem with me because I oppose racialism, even when there is nothing they can actually argue about, or even disagree with.
Dude, I'd estimate that more often than not, your posts sit at 100% upvoted. Apparently the "storm fags" are able to overlook the messenger if the message is good.
About the only exception to this is when you're in a thread calling people names.
Stormfags don't comprise a majority of the site, even though they desperately want to blow it up like they did Voat. They are never able to differentiate message from messenger, that's one of the reasons I get called a jew. To them, jews are a bourgeois race. They are the cause of 100% of all problems that exist within history. Therefore, if I'm doing or saying something wrong it is because one of the following must be true: a) I am a jew, b) I am paid by jews, c) I am hypnotized by jews. No exceptions exist.
Yes, I engage in name-calling. So do they. They say worse shit than I will ever say, they say it hoping everyone will agree with them, and they get furious when someone insults them back. They can't fucking tolerate that someone in a place that isn't theirs to begin with, is allowed to call out their wild fucking behavior and blinding stupidity.
And to be honest, normally, they don't get called out because their behavior is so poisonous that most people can take one look at the thread's title and think "Oh fuck, here's another stormfag post" and just ignore it completely because they know the local Austrian Artist fans are going to be squatting on the thread and screaming about wooden doors.
Yes, I'm going to insult them because yes, we have a moral imperative to gate-keep socialists out of our forum. I'm happy to argue with them intelligently (if and only if they manage to maintain decorum), but I reserve the right to belittle them while they call me a kike-lover
These places have been deindustrialized by globalization and flooded with opioids.
I am aware of that, but the situation is clearly not as bad as Pennsylvania and Ohio. There are other differences.
Comment Reported for: Rule 16 - Identity Attacks (x2)
Comment Approved: I don't see how. Weed users are an identity group? Is he saying that Michiganders are inferior because they are pot heads? I don't see where the issue is.
I had a pretty good idea of the people he was referring to but it really took a particular comment on the video to fill in the whole (mostly?) picture. And it rang true in my estimation. Here is that comment.
The birth rate of immigrants craters, too, once they are here.
I read an account of a German in Ireland during the famine that amounted to "if these Irish would stop whining, they'd have plenty to eat, just as I do."
German industriousness is strange, considering the HRE didn't go down in history as having major technological, political, or economic breakthroughs, compared to Italy or England.
The fact that the Germans and Japanese accomplished as much as they did in the 19th century is a testament to their national character. Sowell has a chapter in this book just on the Germans, but it's really just an excerpt from his book "Immigration And Culture" in which he goes in insane detail about just how the Germans were able to make such a massive accomplishment during the industrial revolution.
Doesn't hurt when you've got Bismark on your side, either.
(((Business)))
I think I'd rather be a Southerner. Sowell might wanna check who's making these comments. It sounds an awful lot like someone was trying enslave Southerners and then complaining that they didn't work hard enough.
"Thomas Sowell doesn't understand his citations"
It's a bold move, Cotton. Let's see how it plays out.
More like, John C Cohencidence, right guize?!!
Is it?
Early Life Check:
(((Irish-borne))), likely story JIDF bots.
Sorry you know I like u I'm just messing around
It's okay we can still be friends.
Comment Reported for: Rule 16 - Identity Attacks
Comment Approved: Obvious satire.
Like that's any better
Perhaps that was the point of this thread
I can't find any of Dr. Jester's "Anti-Semitic replaced with Anti-Irish" memes, but they would really work well right now.
Tell me you didn't read or listen to anything, without telling me. Good luck proving him wrong.
There's no appeal to authority here. You dismissed facts you didn't here. You never asked why he was correct, and you're not going to, because you don't care.
You're not even saying anything at this point. Again, you didn't read anything, and you don't care. Nobody treated him as infallible, your criticism was just worthless from the beginning.
That’s an excerpt of the audiobook of black rednecks and white liberals, Hugh Mann is the narrator
Without looking it up, is that really his real name? If ever there was an alien that came to Earth and was trying to pass off as a human being, "Hugh Mann" would probably be the most obvious and parodic name it could ever come up with.
>not Hugh Mungus
NGMI
Yeah I have to build up my collection.
Post Reported for: Rule 16 - Identity Attacks
Post Approved: There is no identity attack here. Pointing out disparities, and identifying their cause, without resorting to claims of conspiracy, moral inferiority, or dehumanization is precisely what is happening here.
Theres a great book called The Sea Hunters by Clive Cussler that has a few chapters involving civil war wrecks (and their history). I was always so puzzled at the way the South fought the war, squandering opportunities that they either achieved or were bestowed by luck, but this explains so much of it.
All blacks are black supremacists.
Most blacks openly support black supremacist blm and hate Whites. Over 30% of blacks dont think its Ok to be White. Scott Adams got attacked by liberal occupied msm for daring to point this out. Look at south africa and how blacks sing about genociding Whites, thats what blm wants here in the usa
It wasn't even just a Red Pill idea until recent. Here is a highly upvoted post from fucking r/science barely over a decade ago:
That sentence alone explains the problem across all these demographics. If you wanted to be a white supremacist, you would face considerably consequence and lacked the power to really do much with that position. Whereas a black supremacist will face little backlash and generally can use that to increase their standing greatly with the right timing.
That's why I have kept it on hand as long as I have.
It doesn't just encapsulate a great point, it shows just how different things were just a short time ago where you could say something controversial and people wouldn't just scream about it, even on a fucking default subreddit.
I remember that thread. That comment is one of the biggest red pills I have ever taken. One of the examples of how ruined your life can get is this Canadian comedian (I think his name is Dave Foley but I could be wrong) who had to flee to the United States because he lost his TV show gig and couldn't keep up with the insane child support payments.
There are so many fucked up points in that comment, you could make a dozen threads here of real life examples of these things, like that kid who had to pay child support to his rapist, or men having to pay child support for kids who aren't theirs, or that guy who worked 3 jobs and eventually shot himself because he was living in a studio apartment with nothing but a burner phone and a futon and the bitch was still coming after him for money.
I wish I could have what my parents had. A good economy, a good culture, a loving spouse to come home to, some kids who love them, a quiet place away from the city. Deep down past my cynicism, my heart aches and yearns for it. But I'll likely never have that now, with the way the world is going, and how women seem hellbent on being the legal equivalent of nuclear landmines.
Honestly, I think most guys who grew up poor enough can name a real life example of their own, and all of them be uniquely horrible. We are literally surrounded by the fruits of female "empowerment" and all of them are poisonous.
I've even managed to achieve the "goal" of a loving, simple wife with some kids and my own home in a quiet place. And I'm still filled with rage at both the hellswamp I had to wade to to get here, and the infinite number of brothers I've both seen directly and heard of being dragged down to hell in it.
This post reads like a bot.
Bad bot.
It's a Jester alt so close enough.
What ethnicity are White Americans?
That's not an answer.
The wehraboos are just leftists with a different focus, don't expect them to actually argue in good faith.
That and a mix of fed rats trying to forum slide.
The question is whether awareness makes one appropriately aware of varying strengths -- or even varying quality -- or whether you make excuses.
I have met enough niggaz that didn't make excuses to know that they exist, although it seems against the zeitgeist.
Explain.
No.