That onetruephilosoraptor DeSantis guy was always saying that. That it's deliberate on the part of the media to push him up as the only nominee and then pull the rug out from under him so he can't win. It's not that different from 2016 when they thought "let's hype up this clown surely he will lose" but this time they've got the backing of a corrupt justice department.
Onetruephilosopher was an idiot. Said 2020 was legit when anyone with a brain knows it was stolen. Said Desantis was the winning play when motherfucker is on the verge of single digit support. He and that other fool (deka?) disappeared from here real quick. I’m sure they’ll be back when 2024 is stolen, too, saying “told you Trump couldn’t win”.
Yeah, no conservative will ever win again so long as mail-in voting, multi-day counting, and no voter ID are in effect. Our elections are run on the literal honor system. It is trivial for riggers to sabotage any candidate.
Whatever the result or the intention, the spurious prosecutions have only made Trump supporters even more determined to vote for him, and perhaps even some people who were not his supporters before.
They know that polarization works (it's their most successful strategy). The most likely strategy is the one where they enemy gets you to play the game: heads I win, tails you lose.
Making a contested election destroys DeSantis or Trump as a viable candidate. If DeSantis wins, he owes his success to their financing and is controllable. If Trump wins the polarization makes him the head of the movement, making him the monopolar target. If he gets eliminated, then the movement dies.
But of course, they misunderstand the populist movement. Trump actually doesn't mean anything, it's just a guy to rally around, the pressure is already there. This is actually more like Ghandi or Mandella. The larger population is already pre-disposed towards rebelling against the current order by one degree or another, imprisoning or killing them stops nothing.
Yes, I didn't just compare Trump to Ghandi and Mandella. Difference is that Trump isn't a communist terrorist like Mandella, and isn't as well connected to the aristocracy as Ghandi. That's why they are hoping they can break him to damage the movement.
To be honest, those are recent history. It's much more akin to the American Revolution, where there is a popular interest against the aristocracy, with no actual direct head. The establishment is hoping to make one in order to kill the movement. But that's not how this works.
Oh it certainly is deliberate. The media and the left, (but I repeat myself) desperately want Trump as the nominee. The media because he SELLS their content and the left because they know how incredibly weak Biden is and believe Trump is the nominee he has the best chance against.
Just look at mainstream media messaging around Trump this year. He isn't orange Hitler anymore; they've toned the rhetoric waaay down. Remember when freaking CNN even gave him a Town Hall platform back in May?
And their plan has worked to perfection. Just go back and compare when Trump's poll numbers took off to when the indictments started to drop. Republicans have rallied around Trump because he is clearly being unfairly persecuted by the left and supporting someone in that situation is practically instinctual.
I personally believe that pretty much any of the other Republican candidates would have a better shot against Biden in the general than Trump. I know that opinion is going to be unpopular here, but I just can't see how it's not the truth. I'm not saying Trump can't win the general -- he can -- it's just that if he does it will probably be a narrow thing and everything will have to go right for him. Biden will probably not even debate Trump "You didn't even attend the Republican debates", he'll say. Biden will just hang out in his basement like he did in 2020 and the MSM will run his campaign for him. The entire election cycle will be about Donald Trump and Jan 6th, rather than Joe Biden's disastrous presidency.
Biden is so weak that any candidate without Trump's baggage is going to have a very good chance at the general. The left know this, and thus we have all the indictments.
Incidentally the indictments do double duty for the leftists. First, they greatly increase the chance of Trump's nomination, which they want. Second, they completely hamstring Trump's campaign. He's going to have to spend a huge chunk of his campaign financing on legal defense. He's going to have to spend a lot of time in court. It all means a much weaker republican campaign and a much greater chance of a Biden second term. As much as I loathe leftist ideology the elite pushing their agenda are not fools. The Trump indictments are a brilliantly nefarious bit of election engineering.
I remember how excited the country was for Obama in '08. I remember the huge rallies, the general excitement and optimism around him. It wasn't like Kerry or Gore.
That was nothing compared to the spontaneous parades, rallies, and parties for Trump in '20. The dude got 13 million more votes than he did in '16. And we're supposed to believe that people hated him so much that 17 million more than in '16 voted against him/for Biden, a guy who spent half of his 5 total campaign events berating his constituents or challenging them to push-up contests.
Sorry, I don't believe it. I think anyone who thinks one of the other clowns on the Republican debate stage last night has a chance to capture a significant amount of the MAGA base is delusional.
I predict 80+ million votes for Trump this time around, and 90+ million for whatever Democrat ends up running. They're going to have to blow the lid off of fake ballot printing and lay the scam bare for everyone to see.
Remember when freaking CNN even gave him a Town Hall platform back in May?
They got skewered for that because it was purely a money move to save CNN's income.
I personally believe that pretty much any of the other Republican candidates would have a better shot against Biden in the general than Trump. I know that opinion is going to be unpopular here, but I just can't see how it's not the truth.
I don't see how you can believe that with access to any data. Trump is the single most popular president among Republicans since Eisenhower. Trump is more popular than Reagan. You can count his disapproval among Democrats, but there's no other candidate with that level of favorability among Republicans, and it's not close. You want someone who isn't Trump to run as the nominee? Good: cut 20-30 million votes from the total, and that's what you're nominee will get at best.
Biden is so weak that any candidate without Trump's baggage is going to have a very good chance at the general. The left know this, and thus we have all the indictments.
The indictments aren't there to try and get him elected, they are there to physically hobble him from doing rallies, because they know that rallies both create massive turnout and support for Trump, and it also legitimizes and normalizes him to the general public.
Shutting up about him is a desperate strategy from the media that would otherwise be broadcasting him 24/7 just for the income that he generates... because he's wildly popular.
I personally believe that pretty much any of the other Republican candidates would have a better shot against Biden in the general than Trump. I know that opinion is going to be unpopular here, but I just can't see how it's not the truth.
I would love to know the thinking behind this. Do you think a candidate with a pulse would automatically have the edge over Biden? That flies in the face of basically every lesson we've learned since Bush. If the base ain't motivated, you're going to lose. There are a lot more voters in the base than there are independents.
I know that opinion is going to be unpopular here, but I just can't see how it's not the truth. I'm not saying Trump can't win the general -- he can -- it's just that if he does it will probably be a narrow thing and everything will have to go right for him.
Including the left fucking up the fraud in just enough places to tip the scale like they did in 2016 and the 2022 House races. They're promoting Trump as a demoralization tactic: Prop up Trump in the primary, cheat him out of the general, then tell the base that only uniparty candidates are electable. Oh, sure, they'll cheat the red side of the uniparty out of elections as well, but those candidates will play along with the farce. That's why the uniparty's "respect for democracy" and "sanctity of elections" is such bullshit. If they gave a fuck about that they a) wouldn't cheat, and b) if they insisted on cheating anyway they'd put some uniparty house nigger on the Republican ballot so there's no real fight when they steal the election.
You are not paying attention to the multi-partisan support of Trump.
America loves an underdog, and this one is being persecuted by the very forces that everyone here in the US is mad as hell about--the faceless bureaucrats making our lives hell and a President obviously unfit to occupy anything but a hospital bed or a coffin..
Trump will recoup his legal expenses on the latest groundswell of outraged support and his merch that's got his mugshot on T-shirts and coffee mugs.
I predict even those who have never even registered to vote will pony up and vote Trump (if that's even an option next November).
Ah so this is why /b/ is filled with this pic.
All these indictments have made it impossible for the Republican nominee to be anyone but Trump. I'm only half-convinced it was deliberate.
That onetruephilosoraptor DeSantis guy was always saying that. That it's deliberate on the part of the media to push him up as the only nominee and then pull the rug out from under him so he can't win. It's not that different from 2016 when they thought "let's hype up this clown surely he will lose" but this time they've got the backing of a corrupt justice department.
Onetruephilosopher was an idiot. Said 2020 was legit when anyone with a brain knows it was stolen. Said Desantis was the winning play when motherfucker is on the verge of single digit support. He and that other fool (deka?) disappeared from here real quick. I’m sure they’ll be back when 2024 is stolen, too, saying “told you Trump couldn’t win”.
Yeah, no conservative will ever win again so long as mail-in voting, multi-day counting, and no voter ID are in effect. Our elections are run on the literal honor system. It is trivial for riggers to sabotage any candidate.
People are on the edge man. Like even normies now know the justice system is completely broken. Its either areturn to 2016 or beanie man gets his wish
Whatever the result or the intention, the spurious prosecutions have only made Trump supporters even more determined to vote for him, and perhaps even some people who were not his supporters before.
They know that polarization works (it's their most successful strategy). The most likely strategy is the one where they enemy gets you to play the game: heads I win, tails you lose.
Making a contested election destroys DeSantis or Trump as a viable candidate. If DeSantis wins, he owes his success to their financing and is controllable. If Trump wins the polarization makes him the head of the movement, making him the monopolar target. If he gets eliminated, then the movement dies.
But of course, they misunderstand the populist movement. Trump actually doesn't mean anything, it's just a guy to rally around, the pressure is already there. This is actually more like Ghandi or Mandella. The larger population is already pre-disposed towards rebelling against the current order by one degree or another, imprisoning or killing them stops nothing.
Yes, I didn't just compare Trump to Ghandi and Mandella. Difference is that Trump isn't a communist terrorist like Mandella, and isn't as well connected to the aristocracy as Ghandi. That's why they are hoping they can break him to damage the movement.
To be honest, those are recent history. It's much more akin to the American Revolution, where there is a popular interest against the aristocracy, with no actual direct head. The establishment is hoping to make one in order to kill the movement. But that's not how this works.
It's possible, but they fucked up in 2016 still.
Oh it certainly is deliberate. The media and the left, (but I repeat myself) desperately want Trump as the nominee. The media because he SELLS their content and the left because they know how incredibly weak Biden is and believe Trump is the nominee he has the best chance against.
Just look at mainstream media messaging around Trump this year. He isn't orange Hitler anymore; they've toned the rhetoric waaay down. Remember when freaking CNN even gave him a Town Hall platform back in May?
And their plan has worked to perfection. Just go back and compare when Trump's poll numbers took off to when the indictments started to drop. Republicans have rallied around Trump because he is clearly being unfairly persecuted by the left and supporting someone in that situation is practically instinctual.
I personally believe that pretty much any of the other Republican candidates would have a better shot against Biden in the general than Trump. I know that opinion is going to be unpopular here, but I just can't see how it's not the truth. I'm not saying Trump can't win the general -- he can -- it's just that if he does it will probably be a narrow thing and everything will have to go right for him. Biden will probably not even debate Trump "You didn't even attend the Republican debates", he'll say. Biden will just hang out in his basement like he did in 2020 and the MSM will run his campaign for him. The entire election cycle will be about Donald Trump and Jan 6th, rather than Joe Biden's disastrous presidency.
Biden is so weak that any candidate without Trump's baggage is going to have a very good chance at the general. The left know this, and thus we have all the indictments.
Incidentally the indictments do double duty for the leftists. First, they greatly increase the chance of Trump's nomination, which they want. Second, they completely hamstring Trump's campaign. He's going to have to spend a huge chunk of his campaign financing on legal defense. He's going to have to spend a lot of time in court. It all means a much weaker republican campaign and a much greater chance of a Biden second term. As much as I loathe leftist ideology the elite pushing their agenda are not fools. The Trump indictments are a brilliantly nefarious bit of election engineering.
I remember how excited the country was for Obama in '08. I remember the huge rallies, the general excitement and optimism around him. It wasn't like Kerry or Gore.
That was nothing compared to the spontaneous parades, rallies, and parties for Trump in '20. The dude got 13 million more votes than he did in '16. And we're supposed to believe that people hated him so much that 17 million more than in '16 voted against him/for Biden, a guy who spent half of his 5 total campaign events berating his constituents or challenging them to push-up contests.
Sorry, I don't believe it. I think anyone who thinks one of the other clowns on the Republican debate stage last night has a chance to capture a significant amount of the MAGA base is delusional.
I predict 80+ million votes for Trump this time around, and 90+ million for whatever Democrat ends up running. They're going to have to blow the lid off of fake ballot printing and lay the scam bare for everyone to see.
They got skewered for that because it was purely a money move to save CNN's income.
I don't see how you can believe that with access to any data. Trump is the single most popular president among Republicans since Eisenhower. Trump is more popular than Reagan. You can count his disapproval among Democrats, but there's no other candidate with that level of favorability among Republicans, and it's not close. You want someone who isn't Trump to run as the nominee? Good: cut 20-30 million votes from the total, and that's what you're nominee will get at best.
The indictments aren't there to try and get him elected, they are there to physically hobble him from doing rallies, because they know that rallies both create massive turnout and support for Trump, and it also legitimizes and normalizes him to the general public.
Shutting up about him is a desperate strategy from the media that would otherwise be broadcasting him 24/7 just for the income that he generates... because he's wildly popular.
I would love to know the thinking behind this. Do you think a candidate with a pulse would automatically have the edge over Biden? That flies in the face of basically every lesson we've learned since Bush. If the base ain't motivated, you're going to lose. There are a lot more voters in the base than there are independents.
Including the left fucking up the fraud in just enough places to tip the scale like they did in 2016 and the 2022 House races. They're promoting Trump as a demoralization tactic: Prop up Trump in the primary, cheat him out of the general, then tell the base that only uniparty candidates are electable. Oh, sure, they'll cheat the red side of the uniparty out of elections as well, but those candidates will play along with the farce. That's why the uniparty's "respect for democracy" and "sanctity of elections" is such bullshit. If they gave a fuck about that they a) wouldn't cheat, and b) if they insisted on cheating anyway they'd put some uniparty house nigger on the Republican ballot so there's no real fight when they steal the election.
You are not paying attention to the multi-partisan support of Trump.
America loves an underdog, and this one is being persecuted by the very forces that everyone here in the US is mad as hell about--the faceless bureaucrats making our lives hell and a President obviously unfit to occupy anything but a hospital bed or a coffin..
Trump will recoup his legal expenses on the latest groundswell of outraged support and his merch that's got his mugshot on T-shirts and coffee mugs.
I predict even those who have never even registered to vote will pony up and vote Trump (if that's even an option next November).
Yeah I bet the TDS bots are running wild all over 4chan right now.