Half a century ago, college was where bright kids went to learn and meet other bright kids, thus creating networks and meeting husbands and wives. Now college is high school redux, with anyone qualified to be there (Asians, white guys and some of the white women) having to walk on eggshells around everyone who isn't.
The only reason I survived undergrad a decade ago was because I associated with the Marines doing college work to do OCS, foreign exchange students (mostly Aussies and Afrikaners) and older students.
I know someone who still struggles with socializing because the schools he went to punished and shamed students who even so much as talked in the hallways so much, they'd even punish the whole class for the actions of a few.
Basically, school made him more shy and introverted, and he's still trying to undo those effects decades later.
Just based on a lifetime of observations (I'm in my 40s) I'd say that's the case. Writing skills, basic math skills, reading comprehension, it's all gone downhill noticeably.
A person who graduated from high school in the 90s is probably on par with a person who has a master's degree in 2023.
This was written by some really dumb bitch. This is barely high school level.
In the 1979 yearbook, the event is described satirically saying, "The co-ed shrieks as the panting wild eyed men, feverish with desire, grope for her panties." It then continues, "The scene does not seem nearly as sordid when one realizes that the girl in question, along with the other members of her hall, are carrying on this ceremony from the second floor of their dorm, safely out of reach of their assailants, and armed with an arsenel of trash cans filled with water. Having thus prepared themselves after discerning the tell-tale pre-Panty Raid ritualistic eries from across the lake, the girls are more than equal to the task of cooling their male counterpart's ardor."
Alright so men try to steal their panties, women flood them with water. Sounds fun!
The 1976 panty raids were different in that in one of the two panty raids that occured over the span of two weeks, some 200 Richmond College men stormed into the building, entered the Westhampton students' dorms, and stole undergarments. The article also mentions "the thoughtless mob of men, hell bent on 'have fun', proceeded to drench the carpeting in Gray Court with water, thus ruining it. To replace it will cost several hundred dollars and will prevent other needed repair work from being done on the women's dorms." The damage created by the men negatively affected the environment and comfort of the women.
So the water damage from the women...was 'created by the men' and is their fault...
Notice how regardless of the context everything is the fault of the poor vicious men?
I suspect the "panty raid" itself is just a strawman. That kind of shit wouldn't fly in college when I was there and I've never met anyone who either participated in one or was victimized by it.
Like it was depicted in some teen comedy college movies and suddenly gained a reputation for being real, like color-coded slap bracelet sex parties and other urban legends.
It is one of those things that people talk about but I've never actually heard someone say firsthand they did. Probably happened a few times in the early days of women going to men's colleges (I mean like 100 years ago) and got overblown by comedies, after which real students reenacted exactly what they saw in the movie.
Even when they did happen, it was fraternity/sorority shenanigans. Unless your field needs those connections, just don't become a frat boy/sorority girl. Or do, it's not risking lasting harm like walking alone drunk at 03:00 in nightclub clothes.
"Generally, the women welcomed the raiders and in some cases raided men's colleges, such as Georgetown University in Washington, D.C. At the University of Washington, though, raiders broke windows, and female students at Columbia College and Stephens College fought raiders from the University of Missouri." - per the Wiki link in my other comment.
Which is a mixed bag, to say the least...
Modern "college girls" are a different breed entirely, of course. But then very little of that culture from the 50s and 60s even exists (on campus), anymore, even in the US...
Half a century ago, college was where bright kids went to learn and meet other bright kids, thus creating networks and meeting husbands and wives. Now college is high school redux, with anyone qualified to be there (Asians, white guys and some of the white women) having to walk on eggshells around everyone who isn't.
The only reason I survived undergrad a decade ago was because I associated with the Marines doing college work to do OCS, foreign exchange students (mostly Aussies and Afrikaners) and older students.
I know someone who still struggles with socializing because the schools he went to punished and shamed students who even so much as talked in the hallways so much, they'd even punish the whole class for the actions of a few.
Basically, school made him more shy and introverted, and he's still trying to undo those effects decades later.
Possibly. I've never looked into it from that point of view. I have just been inside the belly of the beast for a quarter century now.
And the financial barrier isn't that high. A slice of avocado toast could get a college loan today.
Just based on a lifetime of observations (I'm in my 40s) I'd say that's the case. Writing skills, basic math skills, reading comprehension, it's all gone downhill noticeably.
A person who graduated from high school in the 90s is probably on par with a person who has a master's degree in 2023.
This was written by some really dumb bitch. This is barely high school level.
Alright so men try to steal their panties, women flood them with water. Sounds fun!
So the water damage from the women...was 'created by the men' and is their fault...
Notice how regardless of the context everything is the fault of the poor vicious men?
Not to mention that our forefathers described above were showing our their their trophies which were the modern equivalent of granny panties.
*raids.
Here's the "article" (archived): https://archive.is/T6tmt
Also here's Wokeypedia's take: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panty_raid
Apparently fucking Spongebob has been retroactively censored for daring to feature a panty raid in a 2003 episode. Because of course it has...
"Nothing exists but an endless present in which the Party is always right."
In case anyone was wondering who wrote this dreck.
Damn, I read that as [..] the Panty is always right.
I need more coffee
To be fair, there’s no moral perspective from which to argue in favor of panty raids.
I suspect the "panty raid" itself is just a strawman. That kind of shit wouldn't fly in college when I was there and I've never met anyone who either participated in one or was victimized by it.
Like it was depicted in some teen comedy college movies and suddenly gained a reputation for being real, like color-coded slap bracelet sex parties and other urban legends.
It is one of those things that people talk about but I've never actually heard someone say firsthand they did. Probably happened a few times in the early days of women going to men's colleges (I mean like 100 years ago) and got overblown by comedies, after which real students reenacted exactly what they saw in the movie.
It definitely did happen. Just decades before your (or indeed my) experience…
Perhaps not like in the movies, sure, but that doesn’t mean they did not happen…
Even when they did happen, it was fraternity/sorority shenanigans. Unless your field needs those connections, just don't become a frat boy/sorority girl. Or do, it's not risking lasting harm like walking alone drunk at 03:00 in nightclub clothes.
Eh, I think there’s a lot worse things to happen at college, such as hazing…
I really don’t see panty raids as that terrible, for the most part. Pretty harmless in most (though not all) cases.
So… Not sure I fully agree, tbh.
I’m not arguing it was some “moral good”, but I also entirely disagree that they were some terrible thing, as this article is making out.
Let (college age) kids be kids, tbh. 🤷🏻♂️
In this context:
"Generally, the women welcomed the raiders and in some cases raided men's colleges, such as Georgetown University in Washington, D.C. At the University of Washington, though, raiders broke windows, and female students at Columbia College and Stephens College fought raiders from the University of Missouri." - per the Wiki link in my other comment.
Which is a mixed bag, to say the least...
Modern "college girls" are a different breed entirely, of course. But then very little of that culture from the 50s and 60s even exists (on campus), anymore, even in the US...
Which is somewhat sad, IMHO...
Imagine doing a panty raid and ending up with panties that were up against some guy's axe wound.