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Another Young, Fit Doctor who Pushed mRNA Dies Suddenly (sandrarose.com)
posted 2 years ago by TerpenoidTester 2 years ago by TerpenoidTester +52 / -0
TV Doctor and ‘Vaccination Expert’ Dr. Alfredo Victoria Dies Suddenly at 42
A popular Mexican TV doctor who regularly appeared on Mexico Today as a "vaccination expert" died suddenly
sandrarose.com
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– TerpenoidTester [S] 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

A popular Mexican TV doctor who regularly appeared on “Mexico Today” as a “vaccination expert” died suddenly from a myocardial infarction, according to reports.

Look at that picture, this dude is in the peak of health for his age.

Dr. Alfredo Victoria Moreno was only 42 years old when he died in his sleep early Monday. He was a vocal advocate of COVID mRNA vaccines.

The physically fit medical doctor and public health specialist had no preexisting medical conditions. He regularly appeared on TODAY (“HOY!”) to administer vaccines to the show’s staff on the air.

Honestly I'm glad he died, and I don't say that often. He spread the poison so this is karma. If you are a Doctor and told people to get this shot you have a special place in hell.

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– SR388-SAX 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

He was a vocal advocate of COVID mRNA vaccines.

Zero sympathy.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

The only people whose death I cheer, are those who cheered the death of people who did not want to get a vaccine. Of the millions of doctors, how many do you think opposed the vaccine? Do you think the rest of them knowingly recommended something that they thought was 'poison'? Or did they recommend it because they thought, perhaps wrongly, that it was good for the health of their patients and followers?

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– TerpenoidTester [S] 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

They recommended it for profit, as simple as that. They understood the danger and didn't care, the money was enough for them.

That's the current medical industry. They'll burn your family alive if it nets them a profit.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

They recommended it for profit, as simple as that

How many do you think actually profited from it?

They understood the danger

How do you know that? If this guy understood 'the danger', and the vaccine is highly dangerous as you claim, why would he take the vaccine himself?

That's the current medical industry. They'll burn your family alive if it nets them a profit.

Yes, I think Oxycontin proved that.

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– TerpenoidTester [S] 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

How many do you think actually profited from it?

Literally every Doctor in existence profited from COVID. They are paid through a number of streams, the largest one being their employer (who is beholden to grant money and private donations to continue operations, much of which comes from the Government and Pharma) and the 'best' profit area for Doctors is pharma reps themselves.

They will pay them in hundreds of different ways, fancy gifts / expensive tickets / additional work / etc. As long as they continue using their product.

This is literally the opioid epidemic all over again. It's the exact same grift just done on a huge scale. When Pharma makes money Doctors make money, that is how the profits flow down.

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– Benevolentdictator 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

They will pay them in hundreds of different ways, fancy gifts / expensive tickets / additional work / etc. As long as they continue using their product.

This is really only the researchers, the talking heads, the academics and the "industry leaders".

The actual frontline docs who interact with real patients don't receive shit.

However, the frontline docs are also too overworked, overleveraged and jaded to fight the good fight.

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– TerpenoidTester [S] 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

The actual frontline docs who interact with real patients don't receive shit.

However, the frontline docs are also too overworked, overleveraged and jaded to fight the good fight.

This is actually a somewhat common misconception, people believe private practice Doctors engage in this but Hospital Doctors don't. Weirdly I think this is from all the 'Doctor' TV shows and movies, but that's a totally different topic.

Pharma Reps basically camp out at Hospitals and hit everyone they can from top to bottom, administration to barely certified Nurses. They also do private practice but Hospital administrators are their real goal.

They go after any Doctor and if someone doesn't seem interested they begin spreading the word about it. Think of corrupt cops, if everyone is taking a bite of the apple then they are all safe. If a few refuse they are a danger to the rest. That's the mindset for medical professionals as well, if everyone is over prescribing ____ but one doctor is recommending a cheaper alternative that the pharma rep isn't pushing he'll get pushed out of the Hospital.

The pharma reps carry tremendous, TREMENDOUS power at a Hospital.

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– Happygo 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Actually the docs get payouts from insurance for vaccinating more people.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Literally every Doctor in existence profited from COVID. They are paid through a number of streams, the largest one being their employer (who is beholden to grant money and private donations to continue operations, much of which comes from the Government and Pharma) and the 'best' profit area for Doctors is pharma reps themselves.

All of this is true, and a problem, but it does not mean that it pays for any individual doctor to say that the vaccine is good (or bad). This is all very indirect, and it no doubt incentivizes them to not be too critical of Big Pharma (or at least less than is warranted), but it's not that they are benefiting directly financially from recommending to their patients that they take the vaccine.

They will pay them in hundreds of different ways, fancy gifts / expensive tickets / additional work / etc. As long as they continue using their product.

Right, and that is a real problem, but individual doctors are not "using" the vaccine, are they?

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– FatalConceit 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

They were paid bonuses to deliver the vax

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Were they?

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– FatalConceit 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

yep

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– Kaarous 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

^ is a vaxx pusher.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

You've never even told anyone what a 'vax pusher' is.

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– FatalConceit 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Anyone who isn't against it

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– IfThatIsWhatYouThunk 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Do you still try to pretend the "vaccines" have or ever had any benefits to them? If yes it's not a what, but a who and in this case the who would be you.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

What on earth are you babbling about? Of course the vaccines had benefits for some demographics. Or are you telling me that a morbidly obese 80-year-old with diabetes should not get it? Then you really are as crazy, and perhaps more so, than the people wanting 12-year-olds to get their fourth booster.

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– IfThatIsWhatYouThunk 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Of course the vaccines had benefits for some demographics.

Benefits? They'd actually have to do something, aside from the side effects, before you can argue they had a benefit for anyone. It's never prevented infection, it's never prevented transmission and it's never been proven to have any other benefits either.

Or are you telling me that a morbidly obese 80-year-old with diabetes should not get it?

The only reason they should get it is if they want to die faster. Unless you're trying to argue that blood clots or myocarditis are beneficial to your hypothetical person.

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– Kaarous 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Feigning ignorance huh? That's not smart, just about half the people here have been around long enough to remember.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You mean to say that you call people a 'vax pusher' without knowing what the term is supposed to mean?

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– censorthisss 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Or did they recommend it because they thought, perhaps wrongly, that it was good for the health of their patients and followers.

That's barely any better than knowingly recommending a bad vaccine. Their job is to protect the well being of patients who come to them for their expertise.

Ten minutes of research would be enough to know that only the most vulnerable should have even considered the shot.

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– throwawayaccount2037 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Ten minutes of research would be enough to know that only the most vulnerable should have even considered the shot.

And not even that. There was never (and still isn't) any longitudinal data showing efficacy.

Recommending it in any capacity is the equivalent of recommending a patient to purchase the "healing snake oil" from a guy in an alleyway wearing a trench coat.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

That's barely any better than knowingly recommending a bad vaccine. Their job is to protect the well being of patients who come to them for their expertise.

What if they disagree with you about whether it is a 'bad vaccine'? "Sure, it has side-effects, but everything does, and the amount of protection that it provides you is greater than the risk."

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– censorthisss 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

This isn't only about side effects.

Covid isn't a sufficient threat to most people to justify a vaccine, let alone an experimental vaccine. If a doctor believes that Covid is a greater threat, they're retarded.

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– MegoThor 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Fingers crossed that the Doctor regenerates back into a man.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

American right-wingers have two explanations when someone under the age of 50 dies: either it was the vaccine, or he was murdered by the Clintons.

Like when that poor woman of the Diamond and Silk duo died. She was never vaccinated, but they immediately cried that it was the vaccine. After they realized it wasn't the vaccine, I guess the Clintons murdered her after all.

Worth reading: https://archive.is/ltT82

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– TerpenoidTester [S] 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

It is a simple question of whether you understand statistics. That's all it comes down to, basic math.

Statistically we are seeing completely impossible figures, and those figures are likely manipulated heavily to make them seem not as bad. The raw data that occasionally seeps through all show the same thing: healthy people are dying at a historically impossible rate.

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– Happygo 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

You're arguing with someone who thinks the jabs still work lol. Not even left retards think they work anymore.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Statistically we are seeing completely impossible figures, and those figures are likely manipulated heavily to make them seem not as bad. The raw data that occasionally seeps through all show the same thing: healthy people are dying at a historically impossible rate.

How exactly is it either statistically or historically impossible?

Young, healthy people have always died 'suddenly'. Remember Andrew Breitbart (although many on the right claimed it was MURDER!!!!)? Some of these deaths may be the result of the vaccine, but any death is branded as such by people who are keen to take revenge for all the retards who laughed at unvaccinated people dying from corona.

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– TerpenoidTester [S] 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

Young, healthy people have always died 'suddenly'.

Yes and no. You are saying outliers from the past now explain a common occurrence.

If forest fires happen 3 times a year every year for 80 years then suddenly happen 18 times a year after they change the fire prevention system would you say that is simply just coincidence and use the original data as proof?

Trendspotting and forecasting are huge in the insurance industry because that is how they adjust rates. The insurance industry is saying for 'unknown reasons' now there is a much, much higher chance you'll die young and healthy in developed nations.

That is a trend, not an outlier. The trends are all showing the same thing: something is killing young healthy people at an untold rate.

Just because it occasionally happened before doesn't mean that can be used to explain the steady increase in all developed nations who happened to shoot up an experimental drug.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yes and no. You are saying outliers from the past now explain a common occurrence.

Absolutely not what I meant. I'm saying that any given case of 'died suddenly' is not proof positive that it was caused by the vaccine. Obviously, if such cases double, then it is something that would be very suspicious.

If forest fires happen 3 times a year every year for 80 years then suddenly happen 18 times a year after they change the fire prevention system would you say that is simply just coincidence and use the original data as proof?

Ironically, this is the pro-climate change argument. But interestingly enough, even establishment authorities say that there is no evidence that natural disasters are increasing due to climate change - but the media keeps claiming it anyway.

Trendspotting and forecasting are huge in the insurance industry because that is how they adjust rates. The insurance industry is saying for 'unknown reasons' now there is a much, much higher chance you'll die young and healthy in developed nations.

Is it?

That is a trend, not an outlier. The trends are all showing the same thing: something is killing young healthy people at an untold rate.

I have not seen the trends. Only people posting individual cases, some of which have absolutely nothing to do with any vaccine, some of them from before any vaccine was released, and blaming it all on the thing that they don't like.

If there is such a trend, then the numbers themselves should be discussed, not individual cases.

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– SR388-SAX 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Young, healthy people have always died 'suddenly'.

Utterly meaningless statement that only serves to confuse the issue. We're talking about statistics.

In the context of a statistical discussion, this statement is a either a bald-faced lie or a tacit admission of a complete lack of understanding of statistics.

Which is it in your case?

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– Happygo 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

He wants to make a single bad faith example to detract from the actual data. It's the equivalent of anecdotal advice to derail solidly true trends.

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– deleted 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0
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– OldBullLee 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I hope Hotez is next, but i doubt he got the shot.

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