Trump indicted in classified documents probe
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This is just getting sad. No one seriously believes that this isn't a political clown show.
Boomers and urbanites do. What you believe depends on where you get your information from.
I live in an area that's absolutely infested with brainless true believer NPCs, but even among their number, the only ones who seriously believe that Trump is definitely and uniquely guilty of everything the establishment says are boomers who have been guzzling CNN for fifty years and are literally not capable of critical thought any more.
Gen Z doesn't care about him at all, millennials are just tired of hearing about him, gen X has taken a "fool me 15,000 times, shame on me" approach to stories about the walls closing in. All that's left is sad old people who've been lobotomized by da teevee.
Just echoing what WhoIsThatMaskedMan said, in my experience the "urbanites" absolutely do know this whole thing is a sham. A lot of them are socialists or communists. They know the news is fake. They constantly complain about corporate pandering like we do. Their reaction to this is "did they finally catch the bastard?", with a half-smile and maybe a wink to their friends, hoping (but doubting) Trump will get imprisoned by the corrupt government like the J6 "rioters". As long as something hurts the enemy tribe they'll go along with it. That is the moral center of many Americans today.
I wouldn't be shocked if they actually get desperate enough to try this. The question is will they use something new or will they blame it on something old, like the guided tours from January 6th.
It’s why the proud boys were charged with and convicted of seditious conspiracy. They are going to frame it as he inspired them, and so he is equally guilty.
Called it last year. He won't be allowed to run one way or the other. Hell be taken off the ballot in a dozen states by the end of the month.
I wrote this stuff off as political theater. Now, I'm 50/50 on it being serious. With DeSantis floundering and immigration once again making its way into public discourse, I think they are getting more desperate to rock the right back to sleep.
I previously thought they wouldn't have cared all that much really since there's no reason to think a second Trump term would lead to substantive changes on immigration, but I guess they are just terrified his potentially volatile rhetoric will contribute to radicalizing people.
Trump, and anyone who stayed supporting him, think he was cheated out of an election in 2020.
Their fears he will come in swinging with a lot more disdain and aggression for them than before are completely valid, as will his die-hard supporters. Before he was much more willing to play ball with them and try to do things the "right" way, whereas now he will almost certainly abuse whatever power he can to push his way, knowing they won't be able to ever be won to his side.
A 2nd Trump term might result in him actually going after a few bad actors among Dems, contrary to his failure to jail Hilldawg, but I doubt there will be a substantive policy difference otherwise. There will be a crop of Zionist bad-actors to get their hooks into him again, probably many of the same ones as before.
Lea...leav....leave the zionists alone! 😢
Hillary losing set them back four years. They're moving at breakneck speed now to play catchup and they can't risk another delay, lest they have to move so brazenly that even the most comatose normies will get wise.
Doesn't he need to be convicted for that? Or is that the implication.
Why would convictions, or even guilt or innocence, matter to Bolsheviks?
Probably, but will it matter? I imagine it would mostly be deep blue shitholes he wouldn't stand a chance of winning anyway.
Of course it will matter. It's an enormous escalation that should be matched in kind. It will hasten the war.
Unlike Biden, Trump was a political outsider. He did not have access to classified documents before he became the sole and absolute authority that could classify a document. As such, the probe is by definition invalid.
$5 billion bribe eight years ago though, crickets
they really need a distraction from biden
It's almost like the witch-hunters WANT Trump re-elected.
Should have invested in a storage corvette.
when has the rule of law stopped them from trying. Im surprised they dont just straight up jfk trump at this point.
they know that the second they do that he's a martyr and the real schizos will go full oklahoma city
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mcveigh
No. They wont. The idea that there is some army of disgruntled capable and diligent individuals that have the capability and drive and opportunity to do "something" is getting on par with Q posting.
If they existed they would have done something by now. Trump getting indicted is far below any threshold for action that they may have, because they probably don't like Trump after operation warp speed and leaving the january 6 people rotting in jail.
People here are in a bubble and they seem to have forgotten how these hypothetical skilled and serious people did absolutely fuck nothing to stand up against the COVID tyranny.
If that didn't get them to take any action, they sure as hell won't be springing into action for whatever hypothetical you are suggesting here.
I'd say the odds of him catching an assassin's bullet will increase significantly if he's elected again. All other avenues having been exhausted, that would be the only remaining alternative to get The Evil Orange One.
If Trump was a real threat to them, they would have done that.
The Dems want him to be the GOP nominee in 2024.
They will keep on indicting him in various cases and try to get the GOP base to rally around him.
The criminal justice system should never be weaponized like this for political purposes. It is horrendous.
These indictments may boost Trump in the primary somewhat but they will be a complete albatross around his neck in a general election. He has no pathway to 270 in 2024.
If Trump is the nominee in 2024, his story will sadly end with him dying in federal prison. A horrific end for a President.
Trump needs a GOP presidency win in 2024 to get pardoned and live freely.
He himself can't win a general election with the cloud of indictments around him.
The best case for Trump is that he loses the primary and he gets pardoned by a new GOP President in 2025.
Oh you sweet summer child. You still really believe the dems wouldn't stoop so low as rigging elections. They wont kill him out of fear of martyring him.
They are not afraid of creating martyrs.
Remember JFK?
They clearly see Trump as the easiest opponent for the Dems and they will do whatever it takes to run against him.
All of these indictments serve one purpose. Get the GOP base to rally around Trump and make him the 2024 nominee.
In a general election, these indictments will destroy any hope of a Trump victory. They don't even need to rig an election anymore when they can point to these cases and constantly brand Trump as a criminal traitor.
The Dems are clearly planning on convicting Trump and sending him to die in prison after the 2024 election.
This weaponization of indictments is horrific for the country's rule of law.
Anything is an easy opponent when you can ballot stuff. Also people are generally much more aware of the rampant corruption, and are even more aware of this stupid kangaroor court, and I don't even like poll posting but this has been consistent since the first indictment, and it aint going down.. But lo speak out against the current administration and the fed will knock on your doors.
Polls are a tool to shape public opinion not measure it.
The Rasmussen Twitter account is openly advocating for Trump to win the nomination. They are the furthest thing away from a neutral source.
I would not trust ANY poll regardless of whether it supports my pre-existing views or not.
Again anyone is an easy opponent if you can keep rigging ballots without consequences
I'd say Trump's odds are good if the Ds are stupid enough to railroad Kennedy out and push Dementia Joe forward, which is what it looks like they're doing so far, given that corporate media's ignoring him for the most part. He's campaigning on podcasts--an astute tactic.
If they manage to exhibit a modicum of sense and pretend like their primaries meant anything I would vote Kennedy, simply for his declared stance on censorship, the war machine, the bureaucratic/deep sate and big pharma.
I like RFK Jr. but we know the Dems will never primary their incumbent Biden.
How do you seriously believe that Trump has a good shot at beating Biden?
Nothing has really changed in terms of improving election integrity in the three main swing states that matter: AZ, WI and GA.
I constantly hear that Trump had the election "stolen" from him as an incumbent but at the same time you guys seem to believe that he can stop it this time as a powerless challenger?
The truth of the matter is that Trump also has more baggage than ever with these indictments and J6 stigma.
Normies ate up the J6 narrative and they will not vote for someone with indictments even If the charges were being weaponized by the Dems.
This is the facts of the situation: the only good news for us is that Independents don't really like sleepy Joe. The awful thing is that the one major political figure indies hate more than Joe is Donald Trump.
Does no one here live in suburbia or talk to normies or just people who are not MAGA?
Normies and people in suburbia may dislike Joe but they absolutely hate Trump.
We need to win some of these people to win a general election.
Someone like DeSantis or Youngkin or hell even Tim Scott has a shot at winning these people over. Trump is vehemently despised by these people.
Trump sadly has no shot of winning against Joe Biden in a general when these normies and indies will hold their noses and begrudgingly vote for Joe who they dislike but they will rather stomach Joe than have Trump.
All the working class people I talk to--most are black--are Trump supporters, but this really doesn't justify any predictions.
If everyone you speak to is working class and is a Trump supporter than you are not dealing with a sample that is representative of the country.
Why would independents who didn't support him initially suddenly support him because of these indictments? You need independents to win the general election and this doesn't help him at all with them.
These indictments maybe somewhat helpful in a primary but not in a general election because independents already have a negative view of Trump and these indictments only reinforce their initial negative views.
These indictments have sadly guaranteed a Trump loss in the general election and anyone who thinks otherwise is out of his or her mind.
Regardless of these indictments, Ron DeSantis would still be running. He understands that Trump cannot win a general election and this is his time to run.
DeSantis is not banking on these indictments stopping Trump in the primary. DeSantis knows that his only path to the nomination is beating Trump fair and square in a primary.
These indictments are intended to strengthen Trump in a primary and harm him considerably in a general.
We will see what happens in 2024 with regards to the nomination but I can promise you this: If Trump is the nominee, he will definitely lose the general election.
Independents are either 'independent', or independent. And drop this tired old conservative cliche of 'he lost because more people voted against him' anyone is an easy opponent if you can keep rigging the ballots, **without consequences **
Say he gets convicted, it'll have to go to the Supremes who have two options:
The President doesn't have real constitutional powers, endorsing a permanent deep state that no election can ever overturn.
Declare it a witch-hunt because it's so obviously legal the case should have been thrown out from the first motion to dismiss.
Neither one is a good ruling for the country and liberal intolerance is what did it.
What's wrong with the second ruling?
Getting to that point confirms that the rule of law is dead. Anybody can be put in prison for their political beliefs at any time, except maybe a President or the very most powerful. Any normal Joe posting 'hate speech' doesn't get a Supreme court review.
Half the country confirmed in distrust of law institutions, the other half that the Supremes are compromised. That's how you get a stacked 15 Justices and then a while later 31 Justices and so on or mass political impeachments.
It's a no-win scenario and that's why both parties in the past avoided clearly political indictments even for obvious crimes.
I don't know why he doesn't post this on Truth himself. He can just say the documents weren't classified because I declassified them.