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Biden's first veto: blocks bipartisan bill to overturn ESG mandates for retirement accounts. Manchin called Biden’s decision “absolutely infuriating” and panned the administration for putting its “radical” and “progressive agenda” ahead of the country’s needs. (archive.is)
posted 3 years ago by dekachin 3 years ago by dekachin +75 / -0
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– Ahaus667 34 points 3 years ago +34 / -0

If you ever need to explain esg to someone just ask them if they would be happy having an person with Down syndrome managing their portfolio, if they say no, then they are against “equity” and would be docked by ESG scores.

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– GoofTroop186 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

The problem is they don’t know what a portfolio is

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– deleted 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

Another fun fact - if a CEO (male or female) becomes the parent of a male child, their ESG score drops.

I thought this was a joke on your part, but unfortunately, it turned out to be just the most recent example of your inability to discern whether anything is even remotely likely.

If you have "hundreds" of reports, can you show me three that show this?

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– OmegaBird 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

You're talking to Imp. He's basically as retarded as fishyman.

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– deleted 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0
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– Slav4U 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

That's not quite the same as your initial comment. Basically if the number of female children is at least 1, it raises the likely ESG score.

That is to say having subsequent male children will not then lower the score.

A subtle difference I grant, but an important one.

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– Adamrises 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

That's how he argues. Make wild claims, then slowly edit them each time he repeats them until they reach some form of reality and hope you don't notice.

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– Hoodie_Fren 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

At this point he's become nothing but a weak sparring partner for people who enjoy internet discussion (hello Antonio).

He's like that white belt kid at the gym who's full of rage and always eager to spar hard but always gets his ass kicked and doesn't seem to improve.

These kids have this incredible energy and keep coming at you over and over, usually going way too hard.

I never had patience for this kind of kid, but some guys at the gym enjoyed toying with them just for the sake of it.

The thing is, kids normally grow out of this phase, but in his case I think he may be too old for that.

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– Adamrises 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I disagree on the growing out part. Because I was in that same place a decade ago, with the same vitriol and single minded focus on hating women and feminists especially. I was already an adult with a completely functional life, but still was able to grow out of it. Which is why I keep finding myself compelled to interact with him, and hope that in some way he recognizes he can still hold alot of the same beliefs without coming across as a schizo retard.

I do agree on the rest though.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

It doesn't even mention ESG.

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– deleted 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I read your updated comment. It's beyond idiotic. That is noting a correlation, not causation. There's no one taking notes on who has a son and dropping ESG scores as a result.

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– deleted 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0
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– SR388-SAX 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Play victim somewhere else.

Can't stand competition, eh?

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– Ahaus667 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It’s a euphemism and quite probably prophetic in the grand scheme of things

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– FuckGenderPolitics 32 points 3 years ago +32 / -0

Manchin can shove his complaints up his ass. He spent 2 years enabling this agenda when he had the unilateral power to block it. The state government in West Virginia should grow a set and put an end to the fraud that keeps this weasel in office.

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– dekachin [S] 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

I agree Manchin should be voted out. He provided the Democrats the 50th vote these past 2 years despite being in one of the most conservative states in the country.

He knows the reckoning is coming so he is shifting to the right to save his skin. It shouldn't work, but I will happily repeat him attacking his "fellow Democrats" between now and then.

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– AntonioOfVenice 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

"The country's needs" are not a consideration for any leader anywhere. Not unless you make them.

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– dekachin [S] 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Not unless you make them.

that's what Manchin is doing, he's attacking and shaming Biden for it.

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– current_horror 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

After Manchin himself completely sold out to the progressives on BBB. This is just him trying to rebuild his brand with his retarded conservative constituents, who continue to vote for a literal democrat.

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– Adamrises 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

That's how most Republicans in the government work.

They just help the Dems agenda, while putting up a fake fight or outright supporting them, but put on airs about "calling out" certain things to make it look like they aren't complete sellouts and win back their barely paying attention voters.

Trump's entire administration was full of old swamp creatures doing one thing (usually just words) and suddenly all of T_D was a ablaze supporting them.

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Yeah, and that's good. I just find it absurd that anyone would assume that a leader would have "the country's needs" anywhere on the list of priorities.

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– Smith1980 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

True but ideally it should be

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– AntonioOfVenice 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

It should be the only priority.

Unfortunately, it is not, and by imagining that it is, we only cause trouble for ourselves. A lot of people think that politics is bout 'getting the right people' into office. It really isn't. It's about creating such conditions that no matter who is in office, he will do the right thing.

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– Smith1980 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I'll never understand the “we just need the right people” mindset

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– dekachin [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It's what the voters want, so the politicians are supposed to at least pretend to care.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

The prince must appear to be virtuous without actually being so, as Machiavelli said.

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– Smith1980 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

I’m having flashbacks of my never trump friend so who insisted Biden was a moderate. One such friend regrets voting Biden and said he will happily vote Trump or whoever the nominee is

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– Ahaus667 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

I’m assuming they are “legacy media” consumers? They seem to be the biggest case of “they were moderate ten years ago” because they bought the kool aid back when they were destroying healthcare and forcing every company to strictly follow Medicare policies then pass the costs to the people who pay out of pocket for insurance.

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– Smith1980 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Pretty much. But I was surprised because in 16 he was all in on Cruz. Hated Trump over mean tweets and now regrets voting for Biden

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– dekachin [S] 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

standard operating procedure for Democrats is to lie and pretend to be "moderate" while being as radical as possible.

Biden might personally be "moderate", but he's not in charge, he just signs whatever the radicals who run his administration put in front of him, and read whatever they put on his teleprompter (with difficulty). He was selected to be the nominee because he was the most easily controllable puppet for the Democrat donor class and activist elite.

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– Smith1980 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Very true. What is funny is that my dad hated Clinton in the 90s but now his platform would be seen as far right probably

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– current_horror 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

He’s also a convenient scapegoat. They can be as radical as they like, and every ounce of pushback they incur can be discharged with his lame duck existence. Biden will go down as the worst president in history while having done almost nothing himself, and the Overton window - with respect to actual policy - will have been torn wide open on the left.

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– censorthisss 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

I do M&A (mergers & acquisitions) work for my company and within the past few years, the attorneys have started asking ESG questions to the seller and I rage every single time.

And they call it that by name. They literally have an "ESG specialist" who asks questions like, "Do you have ESG targets? If not, why not? Do you plan to do more?" etc, etc.

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– Brennus 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Retirement accounts only requirement should be to increase in value. That’s it

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– dekachin [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Manchin, who was one of two Senate Democrats to vote with Republicans to overturn the rule on March 1, called Biden’s decision “absolutely infuriating” in a statement and panned the administration for putting its “radical” and “progressive agenda” ahead of the country’s needs.

“This Administration continues to prioritize their radical policy agenda over the economic, energy and national security needs of our country, and it is absolutely infuriating,” said Manchin, who is up for reelection next year. “West Virginians are under increasing stress as we continue to recover from a once in a generation pandemic, pay the bills amid record inflation, and face the largest land war in Europe since World War II.”

“The Administration’s unrelenting campaign to advance a radical social and environmental agenda is only exacerbating these challenges. This ESG rule will weaken our energy, national and economic security while jeopardizing the hard-earned retirement savings of 150 million West Virginians and Americans,” Manchin continued. “Despite a clear and bipartisan rejection of the rule from Congress, President Biden is choosing to put his Administration’s progressive agenda above the well-being of the American people.”

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– realerfunction 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

ok, so override his veto if you have the votes.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

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