I took flak online for saying I’m extremely skeptical of reports of white on black racism or white on anyone racism because there is such an incentive to find such cases that the media cares little about facts and anyone can make up a sob story and profit.
Generally, any white on X "racism" isn't unreasonable or phobic these days, but learned fear/dislike.
There is a difference between "I don't like blacks because they eat all the fried chicken" and "I avoid blacks because they constantly rob me." Yet the media and everyone else treats them like one in the same, to keep up the supply of "racism" for their constant demand.
I wouldn't say that. I'd say most black racism in America is genuinely phobia. "White people are out to fucking kill me. Every cop is out to kill me. White people literally conspire together to figure out how to kill us as a race."
"White people literally don't think about you."
"No no no no, all whites have racial solidarity, stronger than what blacks have. Police officers kill 14,000 unarmed blacks a year [sic]. You're a race of criminals who invented racism, violence, and theft. You hate us, and you kill us, so I fucking hate you."
I call them Black National Socialists for a reason. Their racial narrative is just as conspiratorial as any NatSoc is with jews, and frankly, many American blacks also share the same views on jews.
any white on X "racism" isn't unreasonable or phobic these days
that's a self-defeating argument to make. you're tacitly accepting their framing that white on X "racism" is even a thing, which statistics consistently show is not true when compared to the prevalence of such acts among other ethnicities
I lived in one of the few places where black people actually are part of the population, instead of "that one part of town."
Its absolutely a thing, it just doesn't happen much and really never matters. Pretending it doesn't exist at all defeats your argument even quicker by giving them an easy hole to poke.
okay, seems like I didn't communicate that very well. yeah, acts of racism among whites absolutely exist (exhibit A: the main page of this forum). the problem is with the claim that they're common enough and harmful enough as to be a problem. much of the left's public policy relies on that being true, to the point that they're faking hate crimes. I think it's vital to push back against that claim.
I just don't think "yes you're damn right we're violent and that's a good thing" is the right response here. that doesn't mean we need to shy away from highlighting black criminality - on the contrary. I think the right response is more like, "despite black criminality, whites are relative saints"
Humans aren't good at relativity, especially after an emotional response has already happened. Which is why despite blacks being the common element, we can't ignore the white ones happening even if its rare enough to not even be a statistical blip.
You have to preempt their argument by knowing what they will bring up and have already addressed and dismissed it. Which is kind of what Clot Adams was doing, but poorly. Explaining why it happens quietly and simply so that it can be dismissed when they try to use it.
To be honest, it's really kind of amazing how utterly inactive the white racialist movements are. Most of them online aren't American, and the ones that are don't ever really do anything public. Jared Taylor and Richard Spencer are just sitting back and quietly biding their time.
Most of the actually dangerous white supremacists, are all already in prison (like with the Aryan Nation), or are in criminal gangs (like the 1%ers), and as such have no legitimate political power. Even then, most of the time those organizations are not engaged in hate crime attacks (outside of prison), and are mostly just engaged in violence against other criminals, or drug trafficking.
Yes, they are out there, but you're never going to see them at a protest. Charlottesville really was there high-water mark for the decade.
If I had to venture a guess as to why, it's likely because hatred - deep, raw, boiling, vitriolic hatred that says 'I'm going to drag you out of your bed and fucking lynch you' takes exposure and time to inculcate. It's not an instant process(barring peer pressure, and even then it still takes some ground-work), and when you stop and think about, the people whom would cause such things - the blacks that are doing the really, really horrible shit only account for... what, 7 % of the population? (And I'm being really, really unfair here - it's probably more around 3 % or so.)
There's just a lack of exposure or experience for this stuff to get really started.
Now, if you live in places where the numbers just don't work out to the national averages, well... They tend to be flooded with liberals that stick to their ethnic enclaves and constantly make excuses when the shoe on the other foot and they're the minority.
And so far, these places are very rare to begin with.
It's probably closer to less than 1%. Even if we isolate the population we are looking at to urban, black, men, between the ages of 14-40; the vast and sweeping majority of those commit no crimes. This is basically true for all criminology. It's not a situation where everyone who commits a crime, commit one or two crimes. The career criminals commit tens of thousands of crimes in their lives; almost none ever being prosecuted.
This is why mass incarceration, and the death penalty work to reduce crime. You literally remove the career criminals who commit close to 80% of the crime.
They need to be careful. I imagine the next move in this macabre game of chess is that people will start moving their money out of the government's favorite financial institutions and crash their shaky system.
It'll be the ultimate "Fuck around and we all find out" move.
suggests false flag to me. Not enough racial panic around, better create some more
Democrats aren't going to fault the man for trying to help the cause.
I took flak online for saying I’m extremely skeptical of reports of white on black racism or white on anyone racism because there is such an incentive to find such cases that the media cares little about facts and anyone can make up a sob story and profit.
Generally, any white on X "racism" isn't unreasonable or phobic these days, but learned fear/dislike.
There is a difference between "I don't like blacks because they eat all the fried chicken" and "I avoid blacks because they constantly rob me." Yet the media and everyone else treats them like one in the same, to keep up the supply of "racism" for their constant demand.
I wouldn't say that. I'd say most black racism in America is genuinely phobia. "White people are out to fucking kill me. Every cop is out to kill me. White people literally conspire together to figure out how to kill us as a race."
"White people literally don't think about you."
"No no no no, all whites have racial solidarity, stronger than what blacks have. Police officers kill 14,000 unarmed blacks a year [sic]. You're a race of criminals who invented racism, violence, and theft. You hate us, and you kill us, so I fucking hate you."
I call them Black National Socialists for a reason. Their racial narrative is just as conspiratorial as any NatSoc is with jews, and frankly, many American blacks also share the same views on jews.
That's for black on X racism, mine was only for white on X.
Blacks have their own industry entirely built to make them think that way.
There's a huge amount of irrationality to it
that's a self-defeating argument to make. you're tacitly accepting their framing that white on X "racism" is even a thing, which statistics consistently show is not true when compared to the prevalence of such acts among other ethnicities
I lived in one of the few places where black people actually are part of the population, instead of "that one part of town."
Its absolutely a thing, it just doesn't happen much and really never matters. Pretending it doesn't exist at all defeats your argument even quicker by giving them an easy hole to poke.
okay, seems like I didn't communicate that very well. yeah, acts of racism among whites absolutely exist (exhibit A: the main page of this forum). the problem is with the claim that they're common enough and harmful enough as to be a problem. much of the left's public policy relies on that being true, to the point that they're faking hate crimes. I think it's vital to push back against that claim.
I just don't think "yes you're damn right we're violent and that's a good thing" is the right response here. that doesn't mean we need to shy away from highlighting black criminality - on the contrary. I think the right response is more like, "despite black criminality, whites are relative saints"
Humans aren't good at relativity, especially after an emotional response has already happened. Which is why despite blacks being the common element, we can't ignore the white ones happening even if its rare enough to not even be a statistical blip.
You have to preempt their argument by knowing what they will bring up and have already addressed and dismissed it. Which is kind of what Clot Adams was doing, but poorly. Explaining why it happens quietly and simply so that it can be dismissed when they try to use it.
I wish you were wrong about that but I understand exactly what you mean.
To be honest, it's really kind of amazing how utterly inactive the white racialist movements are. Most of them online aren't American, and the ones that are don't ever really do anything public. Jared Taylor and Richard Spencer are just sitting back and quietly biding their time.
Most of the actually dangerous white supremacists, are all already in prison (like with the Aryan Nation), or are in criminal gangs (like the 1%ers), and as such have no legitimate political power. Even then, most of the time those organizations are not engaged in hate crime attacks (outside of prison), and are mostly just engaged in violence against other criminals, or drug trafficking.
Yes, they are out there, but you're never going to see them at a protest. Charlottesville really was there high-water mark for the decade.
Yea but if you listen to the media they are around every corner
If I had to venture a guess as to why, it's likely because hatred - deep, raw, boiling, vitriolic hatred that says 'I'm going to drag you out of your bed and fucking lynch you' takes exposure and time to inculcate. It's not an instant process(barring peer pressure, and even then it still takes some ground-work), and when you stop and think about, the people whom would cause such things - the blacks that are doing the really, really horrible shit only account for... what, 7 % of the population? (And I'm being really, really unfair here - it's probably more around 3 % or so.)
There's just a lack of exposure or experience for this stuff to get really started.
Now, if you live in places where the numbers just don't work out to the national averages, well... They tend to be flooded with liberals that stick to their ethnic enclaves and constantly make excuses when the shoe on the other foot and they're the minority.
And so far, these places are very rare to begin with.
It's probably closer to less than 1%. Even if we isolate the population we are looking at to urban, black, men, between the ages of 14-40; the vast and sweeping majority of those commit no crimes. This is basically true for all criminology. It's not a situation where everyone who commits a crime, commit one or two crimes. The career criminals commit tens of thousands of crimes in their lives; almost none ever being prosecuted.
This is why mass incarceration, and the death penalty work to reduce crime. You literally remove the career criminals who commit close to 80% of the crime.
FBI must be panicking that they can't troll actual white people into doing stuff like this and have to resort to shenanigans like this.
They need to be careful. I imagine the next move in this macabre game of chess is that people will start moving their money out of the government's favorite financial institutions and crash their shaky system.
It'll be the ultimate "Fuck around and we all find out" move.
You can tell its a hoax if the swastika is backwards…
HALE HORTLER
Larry Elder can't keep getting away with this!
Hey now let's not be so quick to assume it's a hoax and that the black man is not an anti-gay neonazi.
But anti-gay Neo-Nazis is a good way to describe most of these capital B black activists.
Add another incident to the hate crime hoax database: https://www.fakehatecrimes.org/