Indeed. Steadily heading towards the "Democrats are the real transphobes!" meme.
What are you talking about? Things were much worse in 2016, and no one was complaining about it then. Trump is objectively better on this issue now than in 2016.
I was complaining about it. In fact shortly before the og mods were banned I got the TD mods to start banning lgbt supporters from the sub because I'll fight the subversion as long as possible
No. LGBT shit always leads down the same path and allowing the right to be devoured by the nonsense is a death knell. It's already an uphill battle with how many losers exist on our side as is
Trump was never based, but neither is desantis. He will get sucked into Washington and used as a stooge, and FL will be left open for the picking. Has DeSantis banned male genital mutilation in FL? No.
If they have the right ideas and ideology, they kind of are. But what you said below about not normalizing the gender identity stuff is a good point. I'd be happy if we settled on 'live and let live' but still held firmly to traditional norms.
live and let live was what enabled them in the first place, you're not going to get any resemblance of traditional family values unless forcefully crushed the degeneracies
I get the slippery slope argument, progressivism is always a slippery slope. But 'live and let live' is quite workable in a strong society. It only enabled them because we don't live a strong society. We live in a society weakened by decades of insidious propaganda, and which is being subverted from all angles.
I can see the writing on the wall. I know there's going to be a tremendous, long overdue pushback against this degeneracy, and I know the pendulum is going to swing too far in the other direction. It's inevitable at this point because the degeneracy went too far in the first place.
But it still should be said: You can keep norms and traditions that discourage public degeneracy while turning a blind eye to consenting adults who do their own thing in private. Freedom is important to the fabric of society, and we need to defend it on an individual level even when it involves things we don't like. But the degeneracy we're faced with now, that absolutely needs to be driven underground.
Yeah I don't blame you. Personally I think there are virtuous trans people out there who just want to do their own thing and not be a blight on society. If they're smart enough to break away from the herd and not believe the same garbage all their peers push, that shows strength of character. You can be mentally ill, acknowledge and take ownership of your mental illness and still be of net benefit to society.
But it's a sadly rare phenomenon among trans people.
No, I agree, your first example ('my body feels wrong and I know it's a delusion', etc) would be a requirement for potential based-ness. Personally, I'd extend that to cover those who lean into dressing/living as a woman if they're prepared to live with the social consequences of that (judgement, difficulty finding employment) and don't expect others to validate them. The honesty, self awareness and personal responsibility is the important part.
I imagine if they're actually based then it'd be their vice. Like the smoker who tells kids to never start smoking, but doesn't stop or make any effort to. A living example.
You cannot have 'live and let live' without repealing the civil rights act, the most egregious infringement on the freedom of association in US history. Norms are established and maintained through behavior. Limiting how I can respond will affect norms.
I actually agree with this, freedom of association is as important as other freedoms and infringing on it is egregious. Especially when it's only enforced in one direction. It's commonplace for businesses to discriminate against white males, or for someone other than a white person (or maybe an Asian person) to hire only people of their race. It's commonplace to have clubs or groups that are only for women or for a certain race or sexual minority, you can't do it for white straight men though.
He not only will do that, he will do that while justifying his hatred of women by blaming the trans movement he himself is supporting on women. He's a clown.
Women's sports are a tumor on much more successful male sports.
This is the damn truth. Women's sports are nonsense. Sports are about physical excellence which women cannot achieve. All sports should have no sex restrictions and would therefore be 100% men at elite level.
The WNBA is no different than if they decided to create a handicapped basketball league (which is in fact what it actually is).
No. Just no. Trojan horse.
Indeed. Steadily heading towards the "Democrats are the real transphobes!" meme.
Funnily enough I just watched an Auron MacIntyre stream on this topic.
Infuriating that the MAGA movement is actually the subgroup of the Republican party that eventually makes this meme into a sad reality.
What are you talking about? Things were much worse in 2016, and no one was complaining about it then. Trump is objectively better on this issue now than in 2016.
I was complaining about it. In fact shortly before the og mods were banned I got the TD mods to start banning lgbt supporters from the sub because I'll fight the subversion as long as possible
I don't think that's good. Many people used to be "LGBT supporters" before participation in such communities led them to reconsider.
No. LGBT shit always leads down the same path and allowing the right to be devoured by the nonsense is a death knell. It's already an uphill battle with how many losers exist on our side as is
Which is why you want to convert them, because when GG started, absolutely no one agreed with you on those issues, and now some do.
Just say "Naaaaay"
Sort of agree. We have feminists to thank for our tranny infestation, women should clean up that mess.
Pick one.
How long until Trump 2024ers start saying their MAGA transgenders are "based"?
muh blaire white already happened even back in 2016
Also "Lady" MAGA
Trump was never based, but neither is desantis. He will get sucked into Washington and used as a stooge, and FL will be left open for the picking. Has DeSantis banned male genital mutilation in FL? No.
What a dumb comment, but that's expected from you.
He can't ban genital mutilation by decree, and fact is that Americans are total retards on that issue.
No politician is based (which is why you have to hold them accountable at every turn), but what a stupid thing to get mad about.
Has any governor banned circumcision in any state? If not, then idk why you expect DeSantis needs to be the first one to do so?
If they have the right ideas and ideology, they kind of are. But what you said below about not normalizing the gender identity stuff is a good point. I'd be happy if we settled on 'live and let live' but still held firmly to traditional norms.
live and let live was what enabled them in the first place, you're not going to get any resemblance of traditional family values unless forcefully crushed the degeneracies
I get the slippery slope argument, progressivism is always a slippery slope. But 'live and let live' is quite workable in a strong society. It only enabled them because we don't live a strong society. We live in a society weakened by decades of insidious propaganda, and which is being subverted from all angles.
I can see the writing on the wall. I know there's going to be a tremendous, long overdue pushback against this degeneracy, and I know the pendulum is going to swing too far in the other direction. It's inevitable at this point because the degeneracy went too far in the first place.
But it still should be said: You can keep norms and traditions that discourage public degeneracy while turning a blind eye to consenting adults who do their own thing in private. Freedom is important to the fabric of society, and we need to defend it on an individual level even when it involves things we don't like. But the degeneracy we're faced with now, that absolutely needs to be driven underground.
Yeah I don't blame you. Personally I think there are virtuous trans people out there who just want to do their own thing and not be a blight on society. If they're smart enough to break away from the herd and not believe the same garbage all their peers push, that shows strength of character. You can be mentally ill, acknowledge and take ownership of your mental illness and still be of net benefit to society. But it's a sadly rare phenomenon among trans people.
No, I agree, your first example ('my body feels wrong and I know it's a delusion', etc) would be a requirement for potential based-ness. Personally, I'd extend that to cover those who lean into dressing/living as a woman if they're prepared to live with the social consequences of that (judgement, difficulty finding employment) and don't expect others to validate them. The honesty, self awareness and personal responsibility is the important part.
I imagine if they're actually based then it'd be their vice. Like the smoker who tells kids to never start smoking, but doesn't stop or make any effort to. A living example.
You don't think you could have a reformed child molester who uses what they learned to hunt down and destroy other child molesters?
You cannot have 'live and let live' without repealing the civil rights act, the most egregious infringement on the freedom of association in US history. Norms are established and maintained through behavior. Limiting how I can respond will affect norms.
I actually agree with this, freedom of association is as important as other freedoms and infringing on it is egregious. Especially when it's only enforced in one direction. It's commonplace for businesses to discriminate against white males, or for someone other than a white person (or maybe an Asian person) to hire only people of their race. It's commonplace to have clubs or groups that are only for women or for a certain race or sexual minority, you can't do it for white straight men though.
Lol no. Forcing people to use separate government facilities is not freedom of association. That's a retarded example
How about we don't normalize gender identity nonsense and also don't normalize any feminism on the right.
Men should not be allowed in women's sports. Allowing this leads to gender identity bullshit spreading even further.
I know you actually hate women but this is a very stupid thing to support in order to spite women.
Transgender ideology harms so many young males. Young boys are getting their dicks cut off thanks to gender ideology messing with their minds.
You hate women more than you care about anything else.
Sick
Your hatred of women is so overwhelming you will promote policies that harm young boys if they happen to harm women.
He not only will do that, he will do that while justifying his hatred of women by blaming the trans movement he himself is supporting on women. He's a clown.
This is the damn truth. Women's sports are nonsense. Sports are about physical excellence which women cannot achieve. All sports should have no sex restrictions and would therefore be 100% men at elite level.
The WNBA is no different than if they decided to create a handicapped basketball league (which is in fact what it actually is).
Because without selectively employed, 50 IQ contrarian bullshit, he would have to make rational arguments
Because 'he' is hyper-emotional and makes the melodramatic complaint that "they" don't consider men to be human.
Damn Trump must be trying to help DeSantis. I already supported DeSantis a bit more but unless Trump publicly disavows his lgbt dick sucking I'm done
This is a retarded move. Why the fuck would you normalize the left's gender identity nonsense?
There is nothing America first about this shit.
Don't know if you are defending this because you are a diehard Trump cultist or if you are really a tranny.
You seem to always defend trannies every chance you get.