The truth of the matter is if a woman is gauging you like she's a hiring manager then you are in fact nothing but her employee. She wants to know how little she can pay you to get the most value from you, just like an employer.
Women will go straight to a man's house she wants to sleep with without even a date. Every man wants to be this man. The problem is that women are now separating these men. If a woman wants sex, she contacts one of the top 100 men in the whole city, who are the same men all the other thousands of women are sleeping with. When she wants "resources" (serious relationship), she goes on dates and gauges how little she needs to have sex with the man to get him to give her tons of resources. She comes to these dates with 0 sexual energy because she gets all the sex she wants from those 100 men. The men going on dates with these women feel exactly what's going on. They feel like nothing more than resource providers and there's 0 intimacy. The men all want sex and they want to spend as little as possible to get it. When the men all know these women are sleeping around with other men for free, why would any man be willing to invest anything in these women? Not only that, the women don't come to the table with anything themselves. They don't offer sex and they don't offer anything else. It's pointless.
Yes, obviously exceptions exist but generally the women who are exceptions to what I described are ugly women. No man wants to be with an ugly woman. Worse yet, the ugly women act like the men should be lucky to date them when it should be the reverse. Ugly women should be putting in effort to attract the men but they don't so why would any man want to be treated like an employee by an ugly woman?
Overall, dating is worthless for men. The sad reality is that men get more value paying an escort than dating regular women found on dating apps. And if one doesn't want to buy an escort, men get better value just not even dating at all.
If a woman wants sex, she contacts one of the top 100 men in the whole city, who are the same men all the other thousands of women are sleeping with.
If any of you doubt this you can look at the data on STD rates of heteros broken out by genders and see women's infections are 4-5 times higher than men's.
Yeah, because those 100 men are getting it from the women and spreading it to the thousands of other women they're fucking. The bottom 95% of men are left out, and the upside to that is that they don't have to worry about STD's unless they get into a relationshit with one of those whores after Chad and Tyrone are done with her.
Sort of yes but also no. It's not that women are all lying whores on the lookout for a sugar daddy. But dates are garbage because they don't really do what they are theoretically supposed to do (build attraction between humans).
I have been on dozens of dates that went no where. I've also married a woman I went out on a random date with. It worked out really well. The funny thing is though, the best 'dates' were with girls who were already 'primed', either by picking me out through a friend circle, or friends setting us up. Those dates were slam dunks.
Essentially the mating dance isn't verbal or logical. It is the lack of attraction that leads to boring 'job interview' dates. Women don't know what attracts them to men and society refuses to align itself in such a way to facilitate these relationships. Other cultures where marriages are a handshake agreement between father and groom do not have this issue.
This is true. Many guys though have nothing other than tinder so dating just doesn't work for most men. Warm leads are always preferable and workout better. Most guys don't have access to any.
Most guys don't have friends? You just need to set up your life so you come into contact with more women naturally. It's very possible.
I think the problem is the current society belief that if a man does XYZ a girl will fall for him. Everyone believes this. Liberals tell men to be nice. PUAs tell guys to be manipulative. Girls do this all the time too. "Treat a girl X way and she'll love you!" Bullshit.
So guys go on a date, follow the instructions, and get nothing. Because it's false. Being nice doesn't work. Being an asshole doesn't work. Nothing "works." A girl either gets wet for you or she doesn't. The reasons are mostly out of your control. You can't make a girl like you. However, if a girl does like you, almost nothing you do will make her not like you. That's the secret. Find a girl who's into you, and everything else is easy.
Every guy's situation is going to vary but yes, a lot of guys don't have friends or they do have friends and their friends are in the same situation as them. If they have friends, most of the friends have no one left to tap into within their friend circles. At least within my cohort of peers, most everyone has moved around lots for work. Hardly anyone stayed in the same city passed university for very long.
Your last line is a little out of touch. You basically said "find a winning lottery ticket and then getting rich becomes easy". Well, duh lol.
A girl 'like'ing you only results in your being one of the few she fucks regularly. Doesn't mean anything in terms of a relationship for life.
The reason for all this BS, and really part of the slippery slope of the alphabet maniacs, is this idea that relationships based on 'feels' is the most important thing.
What comes from hormones/chemicals, can be got from a bottle, and lost with replacement hormones/chemicals.
This is a grossly reductionist view on it, and I guarantee you women do not want to do what you described. Women use sex as a way to get into a relationship, which is different from the way men view sex, but they stigmatize whoring out.
Dating is useful because when you do encounter "job interview girls", you know she's not worth any more time. The whole point is to use dating as a screening tool. Bemoaning that dating doesnt generate immediate successful results is like complaining that you have to pour material through a sieve to get sieved material.
You and I both know the technical pick-up folks who just have sex have different goals than the folks trying to get in a relationship - most of them aren't very happy either, so claiming that dating is useless because it doesn't lead to that scenario is defeatist bullshit.
I am defeated. I tried dating for years. I'm now 34yo and single. I haven't been bothered to date for 2 years because of how bad dating is. I've gone on dates with well over 100+ women. I just got a new job offer for $140k/yr and I own a 3 bedroom house. I go to the gym 4-5 days a week, I'm fit, eat healthy, white, 5'10", still have some hair.
The relationship market is trash, it truly is. Some men still find success in it but most men don't. I mean, the stats where 2/3s of men are single in their 20s and 1/3 of men in their 20s haven't had sex in over a year didn't give it away?
Women demand too much and offer too little. It's not worth the energy. It's like panning for gold. Sure, maybe you could get lucky and find a gold nugget but for most people, you're just going to find dirt so it's going to just be a giant waste of time and money.
Don't take it personally, but that is the issue right there. And there is nothing you can do about it. You aren't even short, you are just an average height. And that one characteristic rules you out for a majority of women, unless you had another genetic X-factor to make up for it.
I am defeated. I tried dating for years. I'm now 34yo and single. I haven't been bothered to date for 2 years because of how bad dating is. I've gone on dates with well over 100+ women.
Sorry to hear that, but in all honesty, there is some fishy stuff here. Let me guess, all those 100+ women just happened to be completely crazy, while you dindu nuffin. For that matter, they went out on dates with you, yet things did not turn out well, apparently.
Seriously man, have you ever considered that the problem could be with you? You have a seriously bad attitude. Frankly, those 100+ women seem to be pretty smart, because you are on record as saying that "women should be sex slaves with no rights". I'm not sure they're very keen on being kept locked in a basement because of your great enlightenment.
and 1/3 of men in their 20s haven't had sex in over a year
I don't believe studies with such absurd claims.
Women demand too much
Like I said, an absurd claim. Just go outside and watch all the OK-ish women with complete abominations of men. Women will put up with a lot.
and offer too little.
By all accounts, more men are going after dating than women, so objectively, women offer a lot - which is why it's a buyer's market for them.
Holy shit please. You're the biggest simp on this site and completely out of touch with reality. You're literally ignoring statistics in favor of your made up delusions and anecdotal evidence.
Seriously man, have you ever considered that the problem could be with you? You have a seriously bad attitude.
Ah yes the old "you're just bitter" response. Definitely disproves everything he's said.
Women demand too much - an absurd claim
Tell me you're a simping niggerfaggot without telling me you're a simping niggerfaggot
more men are going after dating than women, so objectively, women offer a lot
Men go after women because women aren't going to go after them unless they are chad thundercock. Men are so desperate for affection they will try with literal 3/10s even if they themselves are a 5, because the market is so skewed by online dating and women's impossible standards.
A fat single mom with no job doesn't offer a lot and yet can still get what she wants. It shouldn't be that way, but it is, due to simps like you.
Question for you: How come you assume it's my personality that sucks so bad? Why don't you consider that the majority of women's personalities suck so bad that I avoid them like the plague?
The truth of the matter is if a woman is gauging you like she's a hiring manager then you are in fact nothing but her employee. She wants to know how little she can pay you to get the most value from you, just like an employer.
Women will go straight to a man's house she wants to sleep with without even a date. Every man wants to be this man. The problem is that women are now separating these men. If a woman wants sex, she contacts one of the top 100 men in the whole city, who are the same men all the other thousands of women are sleeping with. When she wants "resources" (serious relationship), she goes on dates and gauges how little she needs to have sex with the man to get him to give her tons of resources. She comes to these dates with 0 sexual energy because she gets all the sex she wants from those 100 men. The men going on dates with these women feel exactly what's going on. They feel like nothing more than resource providers and there's 0 intimacy. The men all want sex and they want to spend as little as possible to get it. When the men all know these women are sleeping around with other men for free, why would any man be willing to invest anything in these women? Not only that, the women don't come to the table with anything themselves. They don't offer sex and they don't offer anything else. It's pointless.
Yes, obviously exceptions exist but generally the women who are exceptions to what I described are ugly women. No man wants to be with an ugly woman. Worse yet, the ugly women act like the men should be lucky to date them when it should be the reverse. Ugly women should be putting in effort to attract the men but they don't so why would any man want to be treated like an employee by an ugly woman?
Overall, dating is worthless for men. The sad reality is that men get more value paying an escort than dating regular women found on dating apps. And if one doesn't want to buy an escort, men get better value just not even dating at all.
If any of you doubt this you can look at the data on STD rates of heteros broken out by genders and see women's infections are 4-5 times higher than men's.
Yeah, because those 100 men are getting it from the women and spreading it to the thousands of other women they're fucking. The bottom 95% of men are left out, and the upside to that is that they don't have to worry about STD's unless they get into a relationshit with one of those whores after Chad and Tyrone are done with her.
The receptive partner is always at greater risk of STDs.
One does not need to accept the crackpot ideas of seriously troubled people to know that.
try as you might, you cant explain this with risk profiles alone. there has to to be a sexual encounter for the risk profile to even come into play.
No kidding, sexually transmitted diseases are transmitted... sexually. It's just that your crazy claims supposedly explaining them doesn't make sense.
So women are basically catchers mitts. Even more reason to not be whores and they know this. But what do they do? Exactly. So shut the fuck up.
No can do. It's quite rich for men to bash women for wanting sex too much, considering their own record.
Admit you're a fag without admitting you're a fag.
Quite right, it's equally applicable to fags.
Sort of yes but also no. It's not that women are all lying whores on the lookout for a sugar daddy. But dates are garbage because they don't really do what they are theoretically supposed to do (build attraction between humans).
I have been on dozens of dates that went no where. I've also married a woman I went out on a random date with. It worked out really well. The funny thing is though, the best 'dates' were with girls who were already 'primed', either by picking me out through a friend circle, or friends setting us up. Those dates were slam dunks.
Essentially the mating dance isn't verbal or logical. It is the lack of attraction that leads to boring 'job interview' dates. Women don't know what attracts them to men and society refuses to align itself in such a way to facilitate these relationships. Other cultures where marriages are a handshake agreement between father and groom do not have this issue.
This is true. Many guys though have nothing other than tinder so dating just doesn't work for most men. Warm leads are always preferable and workout better. Most guys don't have access to any.
Basically, find a chick who looks at you the way this chick looks at this dude.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WhQ-AEZovE&ab_channel=GaspariNutrition
That chick be crazy with tingles. Will burn bright, and then burn you.
Most guys don't have friends? You just need to set up your life so you come into contact with more women naturally. It's very possible.
I think the problem is the current society belief that if a man does XYZ a girl will fall for him. Everyone believes this. Liberals tell men to be nice. PUAs tell guys to be manipulative. Girls do this all the time too. "Treat a girl X way and she'll love you!" Bullshit.
So guys go on a date, follow the instructions, and get nothing. Because it's false. Being nice doesn't work. Being an asshole doesn't work. Nothing "works." A girl either gets wet for you or she doesn't. The reasons are mostly out of your control. You can't make a girl like you. However, if a girl does like you, almost nothing you do will make her not like you. That's the secret. Find a girl who's into you, and everything else is easy.
Every guy's situation is going to vary but yes, a lot of guys don't have friends or they do have friends and their friends are in the same situation as them. If they have friends, most of the friends have no one left to tap into within their friend circles. At least within my cohort of peers, most everyone has moved around lots for work. Hardly anyone stayed in the same city passed university for very long.
Your last line is a little out of touch. You basically said "find a winning lottery ticket and then getting rich becomes easy". Well, duh lol.
A girl 'like'ing you only results in your being one of the few she fucks regularly. Doesn't mean anything in terms of a relationship for life.
The reason for all this BS, and really part of the slippery slope of the alphabet maniacs, is this idea that relationships based on 'feels' is the most important thing.
What comes from hormones/chemicals, can be got from a bottle, and lost with replacement hormones/chemicals.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner. If you're not Chad then dating is a gyp. So the lesson is either become Chad or hire a professional.
This is a grossly reductionist view on it, and I guarantee you women do not want to do what you described. Women use sex as a way to get into a relationship, which is different from the way men view sex, but they stigmatize whoring out.
Dating is useful because when you do encounter "job interview girls", you know she's not worth any more time. The whole point is to use dating as a screening tool. Bemoaning that dating doesnt generate immediate successful results is like complaining that you have to pour material through a sieve to get sieved material.
You and I both know the technical pick-up folks who just have sex have different goals than the folks trying to get in a relationship - most of them aren't very happy either, so claiming that dating is useless because it doesn't lead to that scenario is defeatist bullshit.
I am defeated. I tried dating for years. I'm now 34yo and single. I haven't been bothered to date for 2 years because of how bad dating is. I've gone on dates with well over 100+ women. I just got a new job offer for $140k/yr and I own a 3 bedroom house. I go to the gym 4-5 days a week, I'm fit, eat healthy, white, 5'10", still have some hair.
The relationship market is trash, it truly is. Some men still find success in it but most men don't. I mean, the stats where 2/3s of men are single in their 20s and 1/3 of men in their 20s haven't had sex in over a year didn't give it away?
Women demand too much and offer too little. It's not worth the energy. It's like panning for gold. Sure, maybe you could get lucky and find a gold nugget but for most people, you're just going to find dirt so it's going to just be a giant waste of time and money.
Don't take it personally, but that is the issue right there. And there is nothing you can do about it. You aren't even short, you are just an average height. And that one characteristic rules you out for a majority of women, unless you had another genetic X-factor to make up for it.
Yeah, I agree that's definitely a large factor.
For those unaware how big of a factor this is, here's a good example:
https://files.catbox.moe/mvgdmu.jpg
Basically, if you're 5'10" only 30% of women even want to acknowledge your existence.
Sorry to hear that, but in all honesty, there is some fishy stuff here. Let me guess, all those 100+ women just happened to be completely crazy, while you dindu nuffin. For that matter, they went out on dates with you, yet things did not turn out well, apparently.
Seriously man, have you ever considered that the problem could be with you? You have a seriously bad attitude. Frankly, those 100+ women seem to be pretty smart, because you are on record as saying that "women should be sex slaves with no rights". I'm not sure they're very keen on being kept locked in a basement because of your great enlightenment.
I don't believe studies with such absurd claims.
Like I said, an absurd claim. Just go outside and watch all the OK-ish women with complete abominations of men. Women will put up with a lot.
By all accounts, more men are going after dating than women, so objectively, women offer a lot - which is why it's a buyer's market for them.
Holy shit please. You're the biggest simp on this site and completely out of touch with reality. You're literally ignoring statistics in favor of your made up delusions and anecdotal evidence.
You honestly have the most pozzed and cucked responses sometimes.
Ah yes the old "you're just bitter" response. Definitely disproves everything he's said.
Tell me you're a simping niggerfaggot without telling me you're a simping niggerfaggot
Men go after women because women aren't going to go after them unless they are chad thundercock. Men are so desperate for affection they will try with literal 3/10s even if they themselves are a 5, because the market is so skewed by online dating and women's impossible standards.
A fat single mom with no job doesn't offer a lot and yet can still get what she wants. It shouldn't be that way, but it is, due to simps like you.
Take out the "dindu nuffin" and this reply becomes indistinguishable from the feminist shaming tactics that are rampant on the pedo site.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. This is true or any normal man who doesn’t waste > 50% of their lives on the internet.
I don’t believe any of this. Either you’re lying or your personality sucks so bad that women would rather avoid you like the plague.
Question for you: How come you assume it's my personality that sucks so bad? Why don't you consider that the majority of women's personalities suck so bad that I avoid them like the plague?
Lol dude moat women are fucking multiple dudes while pretending to be or are actually interested you. This is am age of sociopathic disregard
I believe this was true before the mainstreaming of internet dating.