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Facebook secretly killed users batteries, worker claims in lawsuit (nypost.com)
posted 3 years ago by Gazerbeam 3 years ago by Gazerbeam +44 / -0
Facebook secretly killed users batteries, worker claims in lawsuit
The practice, known as “negative testing,” allows tech companies to “surreptitiously” run down someone’s mobile juice in the name of testing features or issues such as…
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– FutaCumDiet 25 points 3 years ago +25 / -0

And they took away your ability to swap out batteries.

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

That still pisses me off to this day. I am one of those weirdos who would keep a second battery around for emergencies. Guess you better keep your battery always on your mind then...

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– deleted 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0
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– GeneralBoobs 24 points 3 years ago +24 / -0

Oh my god, how could something so obviously evil be so evil?

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– peterbeater 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Seriously. They do all sorts of fucked up shit. They literally emotionally manipulate you and gaslight you, just to see if/how they can change your mood at will. This is peanuts compared to all the mkultra / mockingbird CIA shit that they do.

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– deleted 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0
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– fake_namington 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Data Scientists are where the girls too ugly for influencer roles transfer to so they can do minimal coding.

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– Wizardslayer 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

Seems about right. When I scroll through facebook in the morning after my phone spent all night charging I'll drop a wild amount of percentage on my battery.

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– Skywise 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

This doesn’t make sense… you don’t do “negative testing” on customers equipment. It’s something you do in house so you can COLLECT the failure data as well as insure that the test was run correctly.

It doesn’t make sense to run down a customer’s device as your data will be automatically sus, let alone the legal ramifications.

Either the programmer got fired and is trying to (stupidly) smear the company or he’s misrepresented what he was ordered to do. I’ll go for the former.

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– when_we_win_remember 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I agree it doesn't make sense.

There is a central accusation that FB intentionally drained people's batteries.

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– Skywise 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Right - I could see them wanting to implement a particular feature for some data collection that would drain the battery faster than normal. (EG like playing games on your phone does) But that's not illegal anymore than doing negative testing - though that would be a more ethical problem regarding the quality of software.

If anything I think that's what probably happened, the programmer balked, got fired and is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. So long as the feature was legitimate and had a legit business use (even if data collecting) battery draining isn't illegal because you're using the device as intended. Now if they INTENTIONALLY were trying to drain the batteries for no other reason than to do so, that's at least vandalism and you've got a case on that. But I highly doubt that here.

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

IANAL , but I can't see how any of it is illegal. You gave them permission to run on your device. Wasting cycles isn't a crime, that I've heard of.

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– Adamrises 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

You gave them permission to run on your device

A lot of phones are preloaded with Facebook and its treated as required app you cannot uninstall. I still doubt the story, but many people aren't giving permission outright.

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– NoEyesNoGroin 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It’s something you do in house so you can COLLECT the failure data as well as insure that the test was run correctly.

Facebook collects all the same data, they just use customer phones to do the testing because they don't care about ethics or making customers angry, and its cheaper than buying, manning and maintaining a large fleet of test phones.

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– Lurker404 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

He looks and sounds like a whiny bitch.

Nothing in the article supports his claims. He sounds like they're literally killing people and his examples are "how fast their app runs or how an image might load". Seriously? OMG y'all, that's like literal genocide! /s

Companies do A/B tests all the time. Claiming it "kills people's batteries" or "puts them at risk" is just retarded.

I guess that's what they get for hiring activist diversity hires. Serves them right.

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– NoEyesNoGroin 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

The lawsuit, which sought unspecified damages, has since been withdrawn because Hayward is required to go to arbitration

That shit needs to be made illegal ASAP.

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– deleted 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0
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– FuckGenderPolitics 22 points 3 years ago +22 / -0

I've had phones that won't let you uninstall it. The best you can do is "disable" it because it's somehow built into their system. But yeah, one of the first things I do when I get a new phone is delete that app.

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– Shill4Hire 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

"We should make permanent data-suckers that sap processing power, space, and battery life on our phones."

"Why are people jailbreaking their phones to delete our software?!"

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– when_we_win_remember 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

If they're putting their software on your phone in a way that it is difficult to delete, they know what they are doing. FB has determined they get more customers via lock in than they lose by pissing people off.

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