Lots of people discuss all the gynocratic societies in the world. I'm wondering, what is the most Male-Friendly country in the world. Is it Afghanistan? Are there better countries for men?
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If you're wealthy anywhere in the world you can bypass all the shitty laws you want, more-or-less. Sure you've got Bezos and Gates that had wives who divorced them but these men are still fucking 12yo girls in international waters so they don't care.
I'm looking for more like where "average men" can still excel.
The other thing is that if you have $50 billion and your divorce rapist ex-wife steals $25 billion your quality of life isn't really affected. There's a certain amount of money beyond which it doesn't matter for anything beyond dick measuring contests with other uber-wealthy people.
But this is an interesting thread. I'll probably post a thread with a similar but distinct topic in the near future.
Japan as I admit my bias towards the country, I don't know about middle east but even as man, living there must be hard because of the strict religion doctrine. If you know and understand English, Japanese people seem to treat you very well as they seem still enamoured by the Western culture even now.
You would need a time machine for that one I'm afraid.
I would say late 19th century USA as far as freedoms go, and no feminist bullshit to tie you down.
You don’t want to move to Afghanistan, bruh.
Burkas be damned, it’s pretty much a near-irredeemable, rapidly-collapsing failed state, at this point…
“Paradise for men” it ain’t…
Doubtful. Ukraine has two options now.
West wins. If the west wins, then the jews turn it into a multicultural feminist hellhole. It'll be worse than other countries too because it'll be war-torn and there will be no decent men left. It'll be like Germany after WWII but worse.
Russia wins. If Russia wins then Ukraine becomes a part of Russia with Russians able to move to Ukraine. Russia has already suggested reinvesting tons of money into Ukraine to rebuild and bolster their economy. Who is going to be working these jobs? The poorest Russians will flock there for work and the poorest Russians are the Muslim Mongrels that Russia loves so much. Putin is a multicultural loving Eurasian promoting race-traitor. Ukraine will be destroyed as it was once was. Russia itself is also becoming increasingly tradcuck. Just go to Moscow to see how bad it is. The women there are as entitled and materialistic as western women if not worse and the government enables this.
The only men benefiting from the Ukraine war are the jews that are snapping up the young white Ukrainian girls to push in the sex trade at Davos.
You sound like the whiny fucks going on about Andrew Tate.
Dude, we all know you're Jewish. You can stop the charade.
I'm not Jewish, that theory is ridiculous.
No more ridiculous than your "More Feminine Way" conspiracy theories.
At least I'm trying to research things.
There are plenty more due to how insane you come across.
Yeah, yeah.
But one you can't give me is wrong, because everything I say feminists have said, they actually said.
you are judaizing.
If you aren't one, you are even worse for simping for them.
SAD.
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Look what they must do to reach a fraction of its power.
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Holy shit, YOU actually called someone a whiny fuck. This is top level internet retardation.
Depends, what do you define as for men?
For married men? For single men? For PUAs? For MGTOWs?
For men looking to fuck attractive women as cheaply and low risk as possible. Including the possibility of marrying one and keeping her around.
Okay, there is a serious answer to this question.
If your concern is getting all of your shit and your kids taken when the woman you married gets caught banging Tyrone; there is an actual, well thought out answer.
You can regularly visit either the Dominican Republic or the Philippines. Cost of living is low, women are old fashioned "traditional". There are lots of very pretty, nice, faithful ladies around who will be thrilled to spend time with you.
There are also lots of sluts who just want your money, but that is on you.
Find a great woman. Get a cheap apartment, set up a second home. Send an allowance every month to your lady. You can have kids whenever you want.
If you have a decent job, you can visit more than four times a year. You can video chat every night.
If she is unfaithful, just stop paying the rent and cut off her allowance. The kid is her problem, with no consequences.
If she is everything you hoped she would be, by the time your kid is in high school you can make arraignments for her and your kid to get citizenship to the USA. Marry her or whatever. Help your daughter get an apprenticeship as a specialist plumber or refrigeration mechanic. Help your kid start a business. Retire to the Dominican Republic.
This method lets you reward a good and faithful partner, it is affordable and the flights are cheap. It basically fixes the marriage contract.
The hard part is to not settle down with the first woman who throws her pussy at you. Don't have a kid until you really, really mean it. Being a father is incredibly rewarding, but walking out on your child is fucking brutal, even if there are no consequences for you, even if the mother deserves it, for whatever reason.
Do NOT settle for a woman who already has kids. Don't raise someone else's child.
Does this answer your question?
Not a bad idea actually.
What a lame definition of "male-friendly". It shows how cucked even so called "red-pilled" men are. Sex is a drive like hunger. It's not necessarily wrong to strive to obtain sex, but making it the most important aspect of a man's life is akin to a fatty putting all their effort into obtaining more cheap tasty food.
Most men in western countries at least have absolutely everything else worth pursuing.
So Afghanistan is better for men than a Western country with "absolutely everything else worth pursuing" because it provides access to cheap pussy?
Yes, that could very well be true.
So my original point stands. You believe that the most important thing for a man to "achieve" is access to pussy, and everything else be damned. (Of course, you aren't even talking about "achieving" access to pussy; you want it handed to you cheaply. Pretty lame).
I think any other things one might want to pursue as a man are going to be highly correlated to access to cheap "quality" pussy. Remember why question was the most pro-man place not the wealthiest place. Clearly one may have to weigh access to resources with everything else. But for example say you wanted to not have to worry about women charging you with rape, I bet in a country with cheap access to quality pussy, this would be far less of an issue. Same for if you wanted to marry and start a family, you'd find countries with access to quality cheap pussy the best for this. Even things like "brotherhood and friendship among men", you'll find if all the men have access to cheap quality pussy the men are going to have more brotherhood among themselves. Not including access to resources aside. Also, there might be religious considerations to consider. As other mentioned some muslim societies might be pro-men but not be what some people want because they can't drink alcohol. Banning alcohol isn't really a pro/con male-centric thing so a society can still be pro-male with differences.
I think you're kind of shifting the purpose of what I am asking. I already know which country is best if I want free healthcare, which country is best if I want the chance to have the most resources, etc... I'm asking which country treats men the best overall and to me, countries that have access to cheap quality pussy likely treat men the best. You can disagree with this premise but then give me an example.
Probably Nevada. Hookers are legal there.
There's nowhere where marriage is good because the system is built on an inherently flawed premise - that having a woman is a net gain.
The price of hookers in Nevada is too high. Reasonable prices would be something like $60/h not $400. However, any country with reasonably priced prostitutes only works if you have a mobile job and are paid in USD. If you're paid in the going currency there at an average job, they're more expensive than Nevada.
I guess your idea of male friendly is probably whichever country makes women work the most, taxes them the most and then gives all the benefit to men. So you think western society is close to the ideal? That's pretty laughable imo.
Take the Taliban for example that are allowed to take on sex slaves from their enemies. You don't think women in this case are beneficial? That's free prostitutes. The second they become a liability you can kill them. How isn't that beneficial?
But for the extra money, you're safe from the woman trying to do typical woman things. Although, if I'm being honest, I think paying women to tolerate you for a while is a stupid way to spend money.
Not too far off, honestly. First place to slap a 90% tax on OnlyFans "earnings" gets my permanent residency.
Not really, minus women's abuse of power, Western ideas fit perfectly with a pro-male society.
If you could repeal everything passed with the support of women's groups, you could build a stable pro-male society - as long as you made sure women couldn't get back to their current position.
Because I'm not an evil person, I don't desire to hold people captive. I want to be left alone and free from women's discriminatory push against me. I don't want them in my life, not even if you paid me.
Is it evil to turn women, who by your own admission are net liabilities for men, into net assets for men? That sounds like something a good person would do. Why let net liabilities continue to exist as net liabilities? Turn them into assets so all the existing assets benefit from these liabilities. That's a net gain for your society as a whole.
What exactly are the feminist laws you don't agree with you think need to be repealed?
You're close to sounding like them talking about us, you know.
As much as I talk about high ground not being worth it, there has to be some difference between their sadistic beliefs on what we push for.
Pretty much all family law needs to go. Sex discrimination law is utterly worthless, women have openly discriminated in hiring and now woman-led ESG funds are lending money based off reducing male hires. It needs to go, giving companies a chance to say no to them. We don't need to completely tear society down, just make common sense changes to reduce their power heavily.
So if that's how women talk about men, do you think being nice to women is going to earn you any browny points with women? It won't. Better imo to take away any rights they have and make them as weak and impossible to resist an entirely male dominated society. Make them work and sex slaves. Because appeasement doesn't work. That only got us here and the more we appease women the more they take from us.
How would any of your changes help improve society? Family law is worthless if you aren't going to engage in having a family with a woman. ESG laws are helping to encourage more women to work. Men are still finding jobs, what's the problem? Sure, maybe men would get a little better paying jobs but then women wouldn't be working as much or they'd move onto more sex related simp work like onlyfans so all you're doing is getting men to work more then give the money to women because women have a monopoly on vaginas which you think is fine because you think breaking down this monopoly and turning women into sex slaves is immoral and I thought you wanted women working as much as possible?
If anything, we should make the workforce 75% women and 25% men then implement a universal basic income so that men who can't find work are provided enough money for porn, video games, housing, internet, cell phone and an uber eats subscription. Just let women work to support men, isn't that your ideal?
It's more than just circumcision in Muslim countries. Sharia law places huge obligations on men. Women are viewed as sort of half-way children, not fully competent to make their own decisions or be held responsible for their own actions. What that means in practice is that you are responsible for your wife's, mother's, and adult daughters' behavior, and might be punished if they act out or break the law. You also face severe social censure and even in some places legal consequences if you don't provide for them financially.
And a stronger (in society) muslim/mullah can take your "wife" and "daughter", because Profit said so.
Thailand?
SE Asia is hyper matriarchal, most countries there will raise their youngest son as a daughter if they don’t end up having one before 3 sons. Thailand is a prime example of this.
The issue over there seems to be the existence of the expats. Domestic Thai men literally cannot compete for women with all the white men. The women in Thailand see white men as superior to domestic Thai guys. The Thai guys therefore find becoming a woman increases their value more than staying a man. I do believe this changes if you're a white man though and being a white man in Thailand affords you extra privilege you don't get as a white man in most other countries.
They were feminizing men long before Whitey came around
I guess I don't know the full details on the history there. I just know the current situation.
Is that what your question is aiming at, best male-friendly places for a western guy to move to? It wasn't entirely clear if you meant that or where local guys have it easier growing up. You wouldn't want to grow up in Afghanistan. That's not friendly to anybody.
There are only about 4 million foreigners in Thailand total. That's about 5% of the population. The vast majority of them are from neighbouring countries.
I doubt there are anywhere near enough white people in Thailand to have any effect on anything.
I think 5% is enough, at least when we're talking about female hypergamy. It's often referred to in terms of the 80/20 rule, but Better Bachelor posted evidence that it's closer to 95/5 in the West. Since those expats are the top 5% generally speaking it would be more shocking if Thai women weren't treating the local men the same way Western women treat average Western men. Whether that's causing Thailand's tranny problem is a different question.
Maybe the tranny problem in the West is partially caused by the same dynamic, with Chad and Tyrone replacing the expats. We know that there's a lot of value in trooning out in this sick culture if you don't mind selling your soul. We talk a lot about how "transbians" go from the bottom of the woke pecking order order to the top and it's the first time in their lives that they have any social power.
I've also read that Thai, Vietnamese, and Filipino mail order brides are becoming a thing in China as the Chinese middle class grows and they can afford to bring in women to make up for the gender imbalance thanks to the One Child policy.