The article says Pavone posted a video with the body of an aborted baby on an altar. Pavone denies it was a consecrated altar, so it is not a desecration of the altar (which is what makes the video blasphemous). He confirms the body is real, entrusted to him for burial.
Title makes it sound like he was dismissed for being pro-life. It was done because of “blasphemous communications on social media.”
Pavone is the national director of Priests for Life, Inc, which is not a Catholic organization. In that role, according to CNA, he has a long history of conflicts with bishops.
“Father Pavone was given ample opportunity to defend himself in the canonical proceedings, and he was also given multiple opportunities to submit himself to the authority of his diocesan bishop,”
Another fact is that he also brushed his teeth. Was he dismissed for that too? You are being prejudicial. You can't apply such political baseness to the Church, much less when it comes to canon law.
All priests are required to be pro-life, most prefer political conservatism and many were in favor of Trump.
To clarify, this seems to be the blasphemous communication in question:
In November 2016, Pavone filmed a video at the Priests for Life headquarters, urging support for Trump. The video was staged with the body of an aborted baby laid before Pavone on what appeared to be an altar.
Pavone says the video did not use a consecrated altar, but it was the actual body of an aborted baby, given to him for burial.
I don't mean to sound condescending, but how is what you said different from TheImpossible1 pointing out how the evil actions of women made him realize women are bad? Neither of you are wrong about your feelings, only your assessment of the situation. People are going to give you shit whether you generalize half the human population or a fundamental part of human society.
TheImp seems to have a hatred of women as a whole.
I don't have hatred for faith as a whole.
TheImp seems to want all women put in a spaceship and sent into the sun.
I want people to actually follow Jesus and drive merchants and the money changers from the temple.
Just because I hate that the Christian faith has been overrun with grifters and charlatans to swindle old ladies for their pension money and many followers seem to only be interested in faith for completely self-serving reason doesn't mean I can't find some values in the teachings. It took me years to realize that, while I don't always agree with some of my father's says, there is some truth to what he said.
Pope, you are a heretic.
Has been since the year 1000
The current state of the Vatican.
Being pro-life and politically supporting Republicans for political office is not acceptable.
You're making up the reason it happened.
“blasphemous communications on social media.”
what were they?
The article says Pavone posted a video with the body of an aborted baby on an altar. Pavone denies it was a consecrated altar, so it is not a desecration of the altar (which is what makes the video blasphemous). He confirms the body is real, entrusted to him for burial.
That is kind of odd. I wouldn't say it is blasphemous, however.
I don't know.
My grandfather was an Irish Catholic who left the church because of JPII. He would be spitting nails at this shit.
Common Catholic wtf moment.
No surprise the Catholics value obedience to their hierarchy more than clarity on moral issues or ministering to the laity.
Title makes it sound like he was dismissed for being pro-life. It was done because of “blasphemous communications on social media.”
Pavone is the national director of Priests for Life, Inc, which is not a Catholic organization. In that role, according to CNA, he has a long history of conflicts with bishops.
That is what the Vatican claims.
The facts of the matter are that this priest is extremely pro-life and he has openly supported many Republicans including Donald Trump.
You seriously going to say that these two facts did not play any role in his dismissal.
Another fact is that he also brushed his teeth. Was he dismissed for that too? You are being prejudicial. You can't apply such political baseness to the Church, much less when it comes to canon law.
All priests are required to be pro-life, most prefer political conservatism and many were in favor of Trump.
I agree. He was busted out because he bucked his superiors, period.
When the Pope is socialist and Jesuit…idk
To clarify, this seems to be the blasphemous communication in question:
Pavone says the video did not use a consecrated altar, but it was the actual body of an aborted baby, given to him for burial.
Where did you get that? I mean, that it was that thing specifically?
It's in the article.
The Demiurge has had control of the Catholic church for hundreds of years.
People gave me a lot of shit the other day for pointing out how the hypocritical l actions of organized religion drove me away from faith.
Do I have your attention, yet?
So pick a religious organization that doesn't piss you off
I don't mean to sound condescending, but how is what you said different from TheImpossible1 pointing out how the evil actions of women made him realize women are bad? Neither of you are wrong about your feelings, only your assessment of the situation. People are going to give you shit whether you generalize half the human population or a fundamental part of human society.
Simple.
TheImp seems to have a hatred of women as a whole.
I don't have hatred for faith as a whole.
TheImp seems to want all women put in a spaceship and sent into the sun.
I want people to actually follow Jesus and drive merchants and the money changers from the temple.
Just because I hate that the Christian faith has been overrun with grifters and charlatans to swindle old ladies for their pension money and many followers seem to only be interested in faith for completely self-serving reason doesn't mean I can't find some values in the teachings. It took me years to realize that, while I don't always agree with some of my father's says, there is some truth to what he said.