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California cuts payments to solar powered homes (archive.vn)
posted 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules +31 / -0
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– Shill4Hire 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

No refunds.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

God Damnit, Bernie!

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– SoctaticMethod1 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

So less incentive to buy solar then? How much do they provide to the grid anyway? I understand that California has a lot of sunshine but the efficiency of the panels isn't the best....

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– RoulerBleu 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Reminds me of "solar frickin' roadways, dude!" and the scam company pushing this, "discovering" years into the grift that solar pannels laying flat have a very poor energy output.

It was a bad idea vut you were an idiot wanting to destroy the climate for pointing out it was a scam.

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– SoctaticMethod1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It made the solar elevators and power ring in Gundam 00 actually realistic in comparison. Hell even that one place from the original Ratchet and Clank game with the lightning storm had better renewable energy plans than these scammers and idiots.

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– Hellsbells00 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Solar panels in space are a much better idea than solar in atmosphere.

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– Raos044 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Its the orbal elevator part that's kinda iffy

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– TomSeeSaw 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

California is a green state. They import energy from the icky neighbors because they can only produce ~40% of what they need, but fortunately as soon as the energy crosses the border, it is mandated green.

Californication continues.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I don't know what the efficiency is like. I heard that it takes about 20 years for them to pay for themselves, but that may be outdated and it depends on what kind of incentives you can get for installing them.

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– TomSeeSaw 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Easy fix. Just increase the price of electricity 50x. Ukraine will be happy, and you get a return on your solar incentives!

Everybody wins.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I installed solar panels on my house. About a 8-9 year break even. I've generated between 70-85% of my annual energy consumption every year since I installed them. If I had a battery system, I could be pretty damn close to completely independent of the grid.

EDIT: panels should have a 20-25+ year life, and effectively zero maintenance. Strongly positive after year 10-15.

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– KeeperOfTheGate 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Maybe in some parts of the world you need to do maintenance, but I don't. Rain keeps them clean. That's it. I've had the panels around 3.5 years now and I have not done a thing in that time.

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It does nothing for the grid in terms of making it cheaper for everyone else. It lets people feel like they reduce CO2 emissions and gives them a discount on their electricity after an upfront investment.

I don't even hate solar panels, but let's not pretend like we're decentralizing power generation with them. Maybe if you hook your house up to a whole-house battery that can get through several cloudy days. I'm all for not relying on the government.

But people want to act like all the excess power they generate is magically and freely stored for them by the electric company. When in fact, peak generation is at minimum demand time.

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– Yashimata 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

They've already made solar panels mandatory on all new houses, so they don't really need incentive anymore.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

California was paying people to use the extra power from solar panels on houses. The payments are lessening now.

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– Kienan 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Well, everything about that is retarded, from what I can tell. They're slashing the payments because it was unfairly favoring the...people with solar panels. When the whole point was to incentivize people who might want solar panels.

They should just cut to the chase and give every "unhoused" person a solar tent. Unhoused of color get two tents. Alphabet unhoused of color get three.

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– Lurker404 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Well, here we are: solar power is racist.

I love this bit:

would also encourage consumers to install batteries with their solar panels

Batteries about double the installation cost. Plus no more money from selling excess electricity.

Poor people cannot afford solar, so let's make it even more expensive. Big brain move.

Soon they'll tax solar panels because only those filthy rich and white people can afford them.

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Plus no more money from selling excess electricity.

No, but the idea is you don't use very much, either.

They are not going to keep paying people for excess electricity. Batteries actually make more sense since they can't charge you for electricity you don't use (although they can charge for infrastructure).

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– Gizortnik 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Just use candles.

You might actually save money on your electricity bill. Was is probably cheaper than heating fuel anyway.

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– Sesquame 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

What did communists use before candles?

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Burning fat from the corpses of all the innocent people they slaughtered?

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– FuckGenderPolitics 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Honestly if you insist on living in that shithole solar panels and batteries aren't a bad idea considering the government's complete inability to keep the power on. Of course fleeing the 3rd world hellhole makes a lot more sense...

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– KeeperOfTheGate 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

California mandates solar on new residential construction:

https://www.solar.com/learn/california-solar-mandate/

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

They really hate poor people.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Thank you.

A friend of a friend is taking out a government loan to buy land and set up a solar park for a guaranteed pay off from the electric company.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I've heard of people converting productive farmland to solar facilities, where they enter a long term lease with a solar generating company for like 30 or 40 years, as they make more from the lease than from farming. When the government money starts flowing, corruption follows soon after.

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