Perhaps if conservative Christians acted more like Muslims, the restaurant would've thought twice about screwing them over.
"We have always refused service to anyone for making our staff uncomfortable or unsafe and this was the driving force behind our decision"
My ass they 'always' have. They wouldn't have dared cancel the reservation of a bunch of Muslims who they bet would Allahu Akbar their snackbar if insulted (and in the name of faggots and whores no less) and then sue the survivors of their rampage for Islamophobia to boot, and they'd damn well have acted with similar caution & submissiveness if they could 'safely' assume that denying service to Christians would result in a mini-crusade tearing them several new assholes too.
This would be fine if it went all directions but it doesn’t. I remember a case where a gay restaurant owner in Seattle refused to serve two Christians who had been preaching on the streets. I remember thinking if that’s ok then leave the Christian baker alone.
It's common for the average faggot to have intestinal worm eggs under their fingernails. Yeah, they're better off not having any LGBT handling their food when more than 70% of faggots have intestinal parasites.
Where do you idiots get this shit from? It's the same with that cat-piss parasite that you think causes homosexuality.
No, there's basically no demographic of people in the US that majority have parasites. Almost no one in the US has parasites because almost everything you eat is properly sterilized multiple times.
There are numerous studies showing the incredibly high prevalence of parasites in sodomites. Licking hundreds of different assholes, while putting your fingers and dicks in about as many, spreads disease. It's not complicated you fucking degenerate. Intestinal parasites were nearly eliminated in the western world from good sanitation practices and food safety procedures, but faggots brought them back.
No, there's not 'hundreds of studies' because basically no one in the west has a high prevalence of parasites. Antibiotics work. Having one parasite in a person is abnormality, and normally considered a medical emergency.
Intestinal parasites were nearly eliminated in the western world from good sanitation practices and food safety procedures, but faggots brought them back.
You don't just magically create parasites inside your body. Parasites have to infest you because it's a living creature. Complain about venereal diseases and bacterial infections all you want, but parasites are a whole different problem. "Faggots" would have had to physically bring them from somewhere else.
But if a Christian owned restaurant canceled an alphabet squad event because they felt "uncomfortable" it would literally be a Supreme Court case. Bake the cake.
I'm ready for a parallel economy. I don't think the squishy headed will survive the break up, though. You don't see many blurple haired goofs as lineman or plumbers.
Either they can refuse christians, and christians can refuse to bake the cake. Or setting up shop means serving every non-violent/criminal person. Don't be biased one way but not seeing the hypocrisy the other way.
Refusing to put a message on a cake after baking it because its blasphemous to your religion is obviously not the same as refusing people entry into your retaurant because you hate their religion. Asking a muslim baker to make a cake and that at the last step use icing to write 'fuck allah' isn't the same thing as telling a party of muslims that they can't come into your retaurant because you hate islam. Course you know that already and you're just excited to be sucking the blood off a baby's penis.
They have a right to refuse service. Their reasoning, however, is idiotic.
“Many of our staff are women and/or members of the LGBTQ+ community..."
I can't help to notice that everyone in your staff is already born.
Also, opposing same-sex "marriage" does not mean opposing gay people - how thick are those idiots in their heads? It's about opposing it for everyone, regardless of their sexual preferences.
I could have worded it better, yes. What I meant is that supporters of natural marriage don't want to ban marriage based on sexual orientation, but on gender, and for everyone - they don't want to treat homosexual people differently.
And yes, I agree that they should have a right to refuse service for any reason. I'm questioning the morality of their stated reasons.
Legal experts say neither of those are apt analogies. While it’s illegal to discriminate against someone because of their race or religion, the restaurant’s refusal had to do with the group’s actions, said Elizabeth Sepper, a professor at the University of Texas. “It’s about the overall positions and policies the group has taken — it’s not about Christian vs. non-Christian,” she said. According to the American Civil Liberties Union, D.C., Seattle and the Virgin Islands specifically protect people from being refused service because of their political affiliation or ideology.
Sepper, the legal "expert" [sic], they cite is an ideological warrior who's argued that bakers etc. should not be allowed to refuse a service to gays, and that provisions to allow this (expanding conscientious objection) would result in "anarchy". She actually used that word. She's clearly not an historian. She makes a distinction between actions and beliefs only when it fits. This Christian group was refused service due to their "overall positions" aka "actions". Gay marriage though, oh that's different, that's a "status".
What if a Christian company was to go on an intel-gathering mission on the seemingly innocuous gay couple looking to use their services? Past marching in a gay pride event? That's not enough Sepper would probably say. Promoting drag events? Where's the harm in that? There's always an excuse for 'my side'.
The world is a small place to a leftist, so small it fits neatly into their skull. Only emotions, not feelings - feelings have depth, matter. Applying those shallow emotions to every gay couple theoretically rejected by a baker or a photographer is how they create an illusion of depth. Any arguments that society does not benefit as a whole from this permissiveness are too abstract regardless of evidence. And doing away with any pretence of compromise and stating that you want the society that they have corrupted over 6 decades to benefit them more than us to be flipped, now you're dangerous. The slippery slope doesn't exist. But if you support an consolidation/expansion of legal protections for the "deplorables" in society, now it does. Then gays will never be allowed to have wedding cakes ever again, and every sentence uttered by a white man will end in the word "nigger".
I say the same thing I say about the christian baker: Do your fucking job! You don't get to decide whether you want to suddenly serve someone because of who they are. If you want to run a business, you better treat it like a business or get the fuck out. It's not a daycare or a social club, you are serving the public.
The baker issue is totally different. They weren't refusing to serve gays, they were refusing to create a product with their own artistry that supported gayness.
A cake is a fucking cake. Don't try to insert bullshit ideals. And if an actual artist is commissioned to create a portrait of something, they do the fucking portrait.
This is a retarded comment. Artists don’t accept commissions to create art that is highly offensive to them. I would never accept commission to draw some pedo’s loli porn, and any attempt to coerce me to do so would result in violence. I would offer generic artist services to anyone, which is what the Christian baker did - and this restaurant did not.
Meanwhile, if a Muslim group got turned away for the same reason ....
Or an orthodox Jewish group ...
Perhaps if conservative Christians acted more like Muslims, the restaurant would've thought twice about screwing them over.
My ass they 'always' have. They wouldn't have dared cancel the reservation of a bunch of Muslims who they bet would Allahu Akbar their snackbar if insulted (and in the name of faggots and whores no less) and then sue the survivors of their rampage for Islamophobia to boot, and they'd damn well have acted with similar caution & submissiveness if they could 'safely' assume that denying service to Christians would result in a mini-crusade tearing them several new assholes too.
Christians could end this shit by simply boycotting but they won't even do that
This would be fine if it went all directions but it doesn’t. I remember a case where a gay restaurant owner in Seattle refused to serve two Christians who had been preaching on the streets. I remember thinking if that’s ok then leave the Christian baker alone.
On top of being like the 10th+ dude they tried before they finally got a rejection, and all that could manage was one that light.
Exactly. The media made him out to be some sort of monster
He didn't want to make custom art that he personally didn't believe in.
Or an adherent to the social justice ideology because any honest appraisal would classify it as a new age religion.
“Many of our staff are women and/or members of the LGBTQ+ community..."
Christians dodged a bullet on this one...
It's common for the average faggot to have intestinal worm eggs under their fingernails. Yeah, they're better off not having any LGBT handling their food when more than 70% of faggots have intestinal parasites.
Where do you idiots get this shit from? It's the same with that cat-piss parasite that you think causes homosexuality.
No, there's basically no demographic of people in the US that majority have parasites. Almost no one in the US has parasites because almost everything you eat is properly sterilized multiple times.
There are numerous studies showing the incredibly high prevalence of parasites in sodomites. Licking hundreds of different assholes, while putting your fingers and dicks in about as many, spreads disease. It's not complicated you fucking degenerate. Intestinal parasites were nearly eliminated in the western world from good sanitation practices and food safety procedures, but faggots brought them back.
No, there's not 'hundreds of studies' because basically no one in the west has a high prevalence of parasites. Antibiotics work. Having one parasite in a person is abnormality, and normally considered a medical emergency.
You don't just magically create parasites inside your body. Parasites have to infest you because it's a living creature. Complain about venereal diseases and bacterial infections all you want, but parasites are a whole different problem. "Faggots" would have had to physically bring them from somewhere else.
But if a Christian owned restaurant canceled an alphabet squad event because they felt "uncomfortable" it would literally be a Supreme Court case. Bake the cake.
I'm ready for a parallel economy. I don't think the squishy headed will survive the break up, though. You don't see many blurple haired goofs as lineman or plumbers.
bake the dinner, bigot
"abortion rights."
You can just say "abortion," you hacks.
Either they can refuse christians, and christians can refuse to bake the cake. Or setting up shop means serving every non-violent/criminal person. Don't be biased one way but not seeing the hypocrisy the other way.
Refusing to put a message on a cake after baking it because its blasphemous to your religion is obviously not the same as refusing people entry into your retaurant because you hate their religion. Asking a muslim baker to make a cake and that at the last step use icing to write 'fuck allah' isn't the same thing as telling a party of muslims that they can't come into your retaurant because you hate islam. Course you know that already and you're just excited to be sucking the blood off a baby's penis.
Why was this downvoted? It’s completely correct.
They have a right to refuse service. Their reasoning, however, is idiotic.
I can't help to notice that everyone in your staff is already born.
Also, opposing same-sex "marriage" does not mean opposing gay people - how thick are those idiots in their heads? It's about opposing it for everyone, regardless of their sexual preferences.
“Opposing it for everyone, regardless of their sexual preferences.”
What do you even mean by this, lol?
Fairly sure the group doesn’t oppose marriage for everyone…
Generally speaking only far lefty feminists oppose “traditional marriage”, lol…
Also, as others have pointed out, either they do have right of refusal, in which case so does the Christian bakery, and so do churches, or they don’t.
These rules cannot be applied *only to those on one “side” of politics, after all…
I could have worded it better, yes. What I meant is that supporters of natural marriage don't want to ban marriage based on sexual orientation, but on gender, and for everyone - they don't want to treat homosexual people differently.
And yes, I agree that they should have a right to refuse service for any reason. I'm questioning the morality of their stated reasons.
Perhaps they shouldn't have been.
Faggots talking about dignity, well that's rich. Why don't you go drink a few more gallons of piss and give gaypox to a dog or a child.
Laughs in Australia
(Look up Thorburn, and Vic Liberals’ cancelling of Renee Heath, if interested…)
plenty of other restaurants will happily take the money
Sepper, the legal "expert" [sic], they cite is an ideological warrior who's argued that bakers etc. should not be allowed to refuse a service to gays, and that provisions to allow this (expanding conscientious objection) would result in "anarchy". She actually used that word. She's clearly not an historian. She makes a distinction between actions and beliefs only when it fits. This Christian group was refused service due to their "overall positions" aka "actions". Gay marriage though, oh that's different, that's a "status".
What if a Christian company was to go on an intel-gathering mission on the seemingly innocuous gay couple looking to use their services? Past marching in a gay pride event? That's not enough Sepper would probably say. Promoting drag events? Where's the harm in that? There's always an excuse for 'my side'.
The world is a small place to a leftist, so small it fits neatly into their skull. Only emotions, not feelings - feelings have depth, matter. Applying those shallow emotions to every gay couple theoretically rejected by a baker or a photographer is how they create an illusion of depth. Any arguments that society does not benefit as a whole from this permissiveness are too abstract regardless of evidence. And doing away with any pretence of compromise and stating that you want the society that they have corrupted over 6 decades to benefit them more than us to be flipped, now you're dangerous. The slippery slope doesn't exist. But if you support an consolidation/expansion of legal protections for the "deplorables" in society, now it does. Then gays will never be allowed to have wedding cakes ever again, and every sentence uttered by a white man will end in the word "nigger".
How could anyone deny that this is a culture war?
Tit for tat.
We continue to segregate into factions. The Church Militant (in the original sense, not the Catholic propaganda website) needs reviving, it seems.
I say the same thing I say about the christian baker: Do your fucking job! You don't get to decide whether you want to suddenly serve someone because of who they are. If you want to run a business, you better treat it like a business or get the fuck out. It's not a daycare or a social club, you are serving the public.
The baker issue is totally different. They weren't refusing to serve gays, they were refusing to create a product with their own artistry that supported gayness.
A cake is a fucking cake. Don't try to insert bullshit ideals. And if an actual artist is commissioned to create a portrait of something, they do the fucking portrait.
This is a retarded comment. Artists don’t accept commissions to create art that is highly offensive to them. I would never accept commission to draw some pedo’s loli porn, and any attempt to coerce me to do so would result in violence. I would offer generic artist services to anyone, which is what the Christian baker did - and this restaurant did not.
You are so fucking naive and sheltered, you scream entitled westerner.
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Comment Removed: Rule 2 - Violent Speech. You're still doing the whole glorification part.
kill yourselves reddit cucks. No, seriously. Please do us a favor.