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Interesting conversation between Jack Dorsey and Elon Musk (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 3 years ago by dekachin 3 years ago by dekachin +45 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 30 points 3 years ago +30 / -0

For a guy who gives money to Ibram Kendi, Dorsey sounds less bad than I expected. Rather naive though.

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– subbookkeeper 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Listening to him talk makes me wonder how he got where he is. He just talks and talks and talks and doesn't appear to undertake any execution of the ideas. Naivety doesn't seem to fit what he's doing. It's outside the bounds of normal naivety.

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– Assassin47 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Do you imply that he's being controlled by others, or just that he's bullshitting us with his ideas and has no plans?

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– subbookkeeper 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

If he was being controlled by others he's say and do specific things.

I think he may just be an idiot who likes to navel gaze.

He's like the dungeon master that spends hours crafting an intricate story and game that is multi layered and entertaining then ruins it by inviting me who doesn't give a shit about DnD and ruins the game. He'll then thoughtfully discuss how interesting and how many facets that the scenario created and raised. Despite the fact that it's happened the last 6 times he's invited me.

Simplicity seems to escape him. That's a special type of stupid.

Take a look at what he's saying compared to what Elon's saying. He's far more interested in saying something intelligent and deep and Elon's interested in a solution. He's saying seemingly intelligent complex statements that don't really say anything while Elon's asking direct questions which aren't actually being answered.

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– TomSeeSaw 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

tbf, Elon is a shark.

Elon's crowning achievement is that he charts his own course.

Dorsey is only 1 level up from Aaron Schwartz, who couldn't handle the heat and killed himself. A cowards way out. Now we have Preddit.

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– Kirko 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Dorsey is only 1 level up from Aaron Schwartz, who couldn't handle the heat and killed himself. A cowards way out. Now we have Preddit.

That is quite cynical, mate.

When the feds applies heat under your ass, they're thorough, don't say it as he just had to deal with muh mean replies on social a network.

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– TomSeeSaw 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

So you're saying Kyle should have killed himself?

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– Kirko 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Ok lobster enthusiast.

But those were two different cases and more importantly, eras, Kyle received a lot of hate sure, but also a lot of publicity, the case was too big for it to be... tempered too much, no one knew who Aaron was and the feds went hard on him, simple as.

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– Assassin47 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

then ruins it by inviting me

kek

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– DickCactus 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I think it’s just a case of, he’s clever. But also incredibly retarded…

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– dekachin [S] 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

source: https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/1575819998118879232

document comes from Twitter v. Elon Musk (2022)

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

He's right, and in committing his "original sin" he inherited the world yet forfeit his soul.

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– redman012 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

This isn’t surprising to me, considering the fact that Alex Jones has openly said that he’s had Dorsey’s friends tell him that Dorsey does listen to him, but this should just be a sign that woke entryism kills everything.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

One of the best bits of the modern era is how leaks create transparency in a world that would otherwise be utterly secluded from view. Whether or not this is real, I find some of the WhatsApp and email conversations between political actors and elites to be extremely informative.

Meanwhile, people like Trump are much smarter about not putting shit in writing most of the time.

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– fauxgnaws 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

If the thing is valuable then corporations will move in to monopolize and monetize it, and the only thing stopping that is if it can't be bought because each individual owns their own content.

So your Free Facebook post has to be sourced from your own computer and that means the program that collates your friends' posts has to be run locally, and that means you'll need some kind of caching VPN/Tor like proxies to protect your own IP address; if people see your post and it comes from your IP then they can DDoS you or cross reference like with iknowwhatyoudownload.

The keystone then is being able to 'buy' hosting either from other people on the network like with cryptocurrency or from a company for real money. For example, I've got full duplex gigabit so I provide VPN cache for somebody on DSL in exchange for them doing some crypto on my behalf. My IP is partially protected from DDoS because everybody knows I'm not the source which will just select a different proxy. Big famous names can buy better bandwidth/protection for real money.

Once this privacy-protecting version of IPFS exists everything else is easy.

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– deleted 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0
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– BetterNameUnfound 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

We should always be open to those who have genuinely seen the light.

I'm an ex-leftist too. It's not easy to admit you were wrong about so much for so long.

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– Adamrises 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Yeah, but most ex-leftists didn't create the sheer level of devastation that his creation did, all while under his watch. There is a difference between "had bad ideas for a while" and "actively made the world a considerably worse place for a long time and then did nothing about it."

You don't get to just say "oopsy" and all is in the past.

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– BlightBane 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

If you don't mind sharing, what changed you?

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– BetterNameUnfound 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

It was two things.

First was 9/11. Before then, I was a naive liberal who thought "Why should we focus so much on defense? It's not like anyone's going to ATTACK us. It'd be suicide if they did!"

I'm not joking, that was my reasoning.

I became quite the warmonger after that, but as Iraq, whose invasion I at first supported, dragged on interminably long, I started to ask a few uncomfortable questions about how things really worked.

And then, in 2015, came the second revelation: Donald Trump. I didn't like him at first, but I dug further into what he said, and realized, warts and all, that he really was our best hope for the culture war. Roe would never have gotten overturned if not for him.

Now I hate the military-industrial complex and the blackmailing puppetmasters that own just about everyone with a little power.

Thankfully, the bad times will end sooner than you think.

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– BlightBane 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Thank you for the response. I am fascinated with people changing this much.

I hope you are right, we could use some good times.

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