The nuclear option is rapidly becoming the only path to reform. Wipe out the teachers' union. Fire every single Florida Education Association employee. It would be safer for the students to randomly pick people off the streets and make them teachers.
“If Florida truly believes we live in a post-racial society, then let it make its case,” the judge wrote. “But it cannot win the argument by muzzling its opponents.”
So we are going to muzzle our opponents so we win.
Notice the framing. It is a foregone conclusion that CRT is the only way to discuss race. If you oppose CRT, then you oppose all discussions of race.
No. We oppose CRT. We oppose the twisted Marxist framing of all racial issues as entirely one-sided and couched in oppression, privilege, and reparations.
It's the standard one-two punch of leftist activism.
They claim to respect freedom of speech when it suits them, but when you 'make your case' they cry discrimination. Two constitutions, one for them, one for you, and theirs wins.
Of course free speech is supposed to protect citizens from the state, not the state from citizens. But good luck getting anyone to agree to that. When one group of people thinks teaching gayness to kids is child abuse and another group thinks NOT teaching it is child abuse, the only way it can end is violence.
It wouldn't be a coup, and I don't think this statute authorizes arrest. (correct me if wrong) I don't know Florida's constitution but if it's as inexplicit as the US constitution, there's nothing that says the other branches have to do what the judiciary says. They can interpret the law as they choose. They only follow the courts as a matter of custom. However there are a lot of state constitutions that explicitly define those roles, so it's possible ignoring the court would be illegal there. In that case, when an executive or legislature violates the law, impeachment is the only possible punishment, which only the legislature can invoke. They would probably be sued by the feds for "civil rights violations" too.
Appeal to the saner courts. The appellate division Florida is in is very based and rules constantly against such bullshit. He said this would happen and said he would appeal to the conservative courts, which will decide in Florida's favor.
This judge deliberately ignores the idea of coercion, implying that classes advancing anti-white racist concepts are having "discussions" with room for refutation or that critical race theory is a mere academic subject kicked around in theoretical bull sessions as one might encounter at the university level, the dodge that's been used from the start.
To the contrary, anti-white indoctrination requires agreement with an ethical system and coerces belief and action. It demands active "subversion of white supremacy" from public school captives whose parents are prosecuted if they keep their children at home.
They believe it is correcting bad behavior. That they are our mommies and we should listen to them and it's okay for them so scold and yell at us because we are wrong.
Where I think it falls down from a 1A issue (though not a lawyer) is this: They're not just saying the Woke stuff, they're compelling others to go along with it.
If companies just said Woke stuff, ok, speech issue. But companies compel you to go to this training, and your employment is contingent on following it.
In schools, you are again forced to take Woke classes, and your success or failure in school depends on toeing the line.
1A means the state cannot silence you. 1A does not mean you can force others to comply with your will. Basically, what the judge is claiming DeSantis is trying to do with this is already happening just in the other direction. DARVO again it seems.
The nuclear option is rapidly becoming the only path to reform. Wipe out the teachers' union. Fire every single Florida Education Association employee. It would be safer for the students to randomly pick people off the streets and make them teachers.
All unions. Outlaw labor racketeering completely.
Dismantle every trapping of leftism, part and parcel.
Nah, just public sector unions. Private ones are the only way workers can negotiate with their employers. Otherwise, you're fucked.
We need a great reset, just on our own terms.
So we are going to muzzle our opponents so we win.
Fucks sake, Giant Meteor cannot come soon enough
Notice the framing. It is a foregone conclusion that CRT is the only way to discuss race. If you oppose CRT, then you oppose all discussions of race.
No. We oppose CRT. We oppose the twisted Marxist framing of all racial issues as entirely one-sided and couched in oppression, privilege, and reparations.
CRT is training people to be racist.
It's literally like inviting 1940s nazi's to give a presentation on the Jews.
...talking about instruction given to children and training given to employees. This judge is mentally deranged.
It's the standard one-two punch of leftist activism.
They claim to respect freedom of speech when it suits them, but when you 'make your case' they cry discrimination. Two constitutions, one for them, one for you, and theirs wins.
Of course free speech is supposed to protect citizens from the state, not the state from citizens. But good luck getting anyone to agree to that. When one group of people thinks teaching gayness to kids is child abuse and another group thinks NOT teaching it is child abuse, the only way it can end is violence.
no, you stupid bitch, that's exactly wrong. the state does not have free speech.
Man, Robert Barnes was right in his accessment of judges:
Clinton: old school Liberals, might try to tie the party line but cut off before woke
Bush: fairly ok, they just don't understand a lot of the tech nuisances when it comes to big tech
Obama: HEAVILY politicised, you are fucked if this is your judge and you believe anything non woke
Trump: can be ok but some have turtle necks fingerprints on them so tie the uniparty line.
The Imp will love this one, the woke cunt ruled in favor of League of Women Voters: https://ballotpedia.org/Mark_E._Walker
They're called the League of Women Voters because their asses are measured by this unit.
Can a state ignore this and just arrest people, or would that constitute a coup?
It wouldn't be a coup, and I don't think this statute authorizes arrest. (correct me if wrong) I don't know Florida's constitution but if it's as inexplicit as the US constitution, there's nothing that says the other branches have to do what the judiciary says. They can interpret the law as they choose. They only follow the courts as a matter of custom. However there are a lot of state constitutions that explicitly define those roles, so it's possible ignoring the court would be illegal there. In that case, when an executive or legislature violates the law, impeachment is the only possible punishment, which only the legislature can invoke. They would probably be sued by the feds for "civil rights violations" too.
TLDR Yes and no.
Seems like they would, yes, because Florida is just built different.
You forget the Greeks and Scots.
Rachel Dolezal intensifies
So what’s DeSantis gonna do?
Appeal to the saner courts. The appellate division Florida is in is very based and rules constantly against such bullshit. He said this would happen and said he would appeal to the conservative courts, which will decide in Florida's favor.
He needs to build that bank now.
Bank?
This judge deliberately ignores the idea of coercion, implying that classes advancing anti-white racist concepts are having "discussions" with room for refutation or that critical race theory is a mere academic subject kicked around in theoretical bull sessions as one might encounter at the university level, the dodge that's been used from the start.
To the contrary, anti-white indoctrination requires agreement with an ethical system and coerces belief and action. It demands active "subversion of white supremacy" from public school captives whose parents are prosecuted if they keep their children at home.
They believe it is correcting bad behavior. That they are our mommies and we should listen to them and it's okay for them so scold and yell at us because we are wrong.
Throw every federal employee out of Florida.
Does the School's 1st amendment right include teaching Christianity I wonder?
Where I think it falls down from a 1A issue (though not a lawyer) is this: They're not just saying the Woke stuff, they're compelling others to go along with it.
If companies just said Woke stuff, ok, speech issue. But companies compel you to go to this training, and your employment is contingent on following it.
In schools, you are again forced to take Woke classes, and your success or failure in school depends on toeing the line.
1A means the state cannot silence you. 1A does not mean you can force others to comply with your will. Basically, what the judge is claiming DeSantis is trying to do with this is already happening just in the other direction. DARVO again it seems.
It's not a 1A issue. Judge is a woketard. This should be overturned.
This isn't a first amendment issue because the kids aren't given the opportunity to dissent against it.
This will be overturned, as usual.