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Left-wing views highest ever recorded among young Poles, above right-wing and centrist for first time (notesfrompoland.com)
posted 3 years ago by SupremeReader 3 years ago by SupremeReader +30 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 30 points 3 years ago +30 / -0

As much as I love Poland and wish it the best, I think no country in the American orbit has a future.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Don't choke on the black pills so much.

Frankly, I don't see where absolutely any of you are getting this. Eastern Europe's biggest problem is that the anti-communists are now the establishment, so young people are responding and buttressing up against the anti-communists. It's also no help that the Easter European governments aren't known for integrity, and they did relatively little against Covid, showing an underlying authoritarianism that's still present.

I'm surprised at the suddenness of the shift, but I expect that that is related to some specific series of polices since it happened all in one year.

As for the American orbit, those countries are going to fare better as the collapse of Fabianism is going to basically allow American right-wing cultural issues (particularly into the anglosphere), to transmit everywhere else. Canadians have no real right to speech, protest, or firearms; and suddenly the Canadian right is actually demanding it. Winning the culture war is going to allow us to Liberate Europe... again.

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Eastern Europe's biggest problem is that the anti-communists are now the establishment, so young people are responding and buttressing up against the anti-communists.

That would suggest that elsewhere, the youth are rising up against the groomer/shitlib establishment, which unfortunately is not true - except perhaps in France.

It's also no help that the Easter European governments aren't known for integrity

Governments aren't known for integrity, period.

those countries are going to fare better as the collapse of Fabianism is going to basically allow American right-wing cultural issues (particularly into the anglosphere), to transmit everywhere else. Canadians have no real right to speech, protest, or firearms; and suddenly the Canadian right is actually demanding it. Winning the culture war is going to allow us to Liberate Europe... again.

I'd like to be liberated by right-wing Americans. Unfortunately, right now, I'm being 'liberated' by the worst your country has on offer.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

That would suggest that elsewhere, the youth are rising up against the groomer/shitlib establishment, which unfortunately is not true - except perhaps in France.

I'd say both France and the Anglosphere.

Governments aren't known for integrity, period.

Eastern Europe is on a different level than the west (except for Biden, holy shit).

I'd like to be liberated by right-wing Americans. Unfortunately, right now, I'm being 'liberated' by the worst your country has on offer.

That normally happens when Germans with plans for world domination fund them, yes.

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– censorthisss 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

and they did relatively little against Covid, showing an underlying authoritarianism that's still present.

I'm confused by this. How does less Covid theater equal showing underlying authoritarianism?

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Sorry, my brain actually just understood Covid as the response itself, rather than the disease.

I didn't even notice that when I typed it.

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– Assassin47 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I don't know if you're right or just coping, but the occasional white pill around here is much appreciated.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I'm not coping. Honestly, black-pilling on the right has been almost entirely done by terminally online depressives that are being amplified by shills and subversives who realize that black-pilling is one of their strongest weapons.

Working off of Haidt's research, the right-wing has a mentality that corresponds to risk aversion regarding disease: shut down and isolate. Black-pillers are defaulting to this when it is unnecessary to do so, causing a pathological defensive response that continually cedes ground to the political left.

The left has been profiting for decades off of holding the initiative and momentum by simply keeping the political right perpetually reactionary, and keeping them perpetually defeatist, by asserting their inevitability regardless of evidence.

It needs to be stopped, because it's the single most successful strategy the Left uses. Hell, California has basically no chance of turning red any time soon because anyone who was conservative abandoned the state, rather than form parallel systems. The Left actually knows this, and counts on this to maintain political control.

All that being said, I really do not see the Fabian Order surviving into 2050, and all evidence we have of Leftist collapses shows that they collapse very rapidly

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– ArtemisFoul 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Eastern Europe's biggest problem is that the anti-communists are now the establishment

Yeah, except the anti-communists are hard to the left of the literal communists.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It's one thing to recognize about the political right when it eventually wins:

There's no reason to think they won't turn into Leftists of another form.

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– ArtemisFoul 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Papa Pinochet wouldn't do that to me :(

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– Lurker404 25 points 3 years ago +25 / -0

That's how the liberal cancer infects countries, by targeting their children.

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– blackestknight 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

You misspelled communist.

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– KingLion7 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

Young women are the ultimate weapon of subversion. It is why all sane cultures married them off early.

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– SupremeReader [S] 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

In its latest survey, conducted last year, it found that 30% in that age bracket declared that they held left-wing views – up from 17% in 2019 and the highest level every recorded.

Among Poles of all ages, however, 37% declared right-wing views (the highest result ever recorded) while those with left-wing beliefs rose from 17% to 20%.

There is also a gender divide, with young women holding more socially liberal and left-wing views and young men expressing more conservative, right-wing ones.

The same survey found that men under 40 perceived “gender ideology and the LGBT movement” as the greatest threat facing Poland.

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– Gizortnik 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Yeah, these results are a little odd, especially with that sudden of a shift, I'd think that this is related to some kind of specific policy situation in Poland.

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Or it's a lie. Polls exist to shape the public's views, not measure them.

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– SupremeReader [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It's a government associated agency.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

That doesn't discredit his point.

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– SupremeReader [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Also they're considered reliable.

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– Yakuza 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

lol k

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– SupremeReader [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The womxnkind got radicalized by the hysterical "black marches" demanding the bortions and the associated propaganda.

It's pretty obvious that the very pro-life gov policy is really more about the looming demographic catastrophe being taken seriously than just the Catholicism as it's being portrayed.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0
  • 'you need to beware of Jews': men 30%, women 19%

/Pol/land

36% of women expressed left-wing or centre-left views while 31% were on the right or centre-right. Among young men, the figures were 21% and 54% respectively.

Replace them with Ukrainian war brides?

Is there a general awareness, particularly among Poland's right, that America will leak poison into your country? Any movement to crack down on faggy NGOs and the like?

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– acp_k2win 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

the GAE brooks no dissent... maybe Putin can save them after he is done saving the Ukraine

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– SupremeReader [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

We don't really need the Russians as eco-friendly fertilizer but we can take them if we have to.

Like the writer Andrzej Pilipiuk told me how where he comes from there are secret burial places of the Sovietoids that just went missing in the area and his family was involved. Maybe he or they just boasted about bullshit, but that's a common attitude.

Sort of related from yesterday: https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220713-remains-of-8-000-nazi-war-victims-found-in-poland

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– current_horror 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

This boasting is particularly comical in light of this poll. Turns out Poland wasn’t based. You’re just lagging.

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– evilplushie 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Well they're doomed

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– Footsoldier 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Meaningless.

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– Kienan 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I said it before, but they've built their wall...it's time to start putting the leftists and communists on the other side of it. And they better hurry.

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

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