If you're a Disney shareholder, you just lost $200m in tax breaks but crazy cool shit like the unique ability to control their own water, power, emergency services & more.
All because your CEO wanted to appease a few groomers. If I was a shareholder I'd be calling for his head.
All because your CEO wanted to appease a few groomers. If I was a shareholder I'd be calling for his head.
I had a conversation with someone who was laboring under the impression that because one of Walt's great-niblings was a troon, that the company had to take a public stance in favor of troonery.
He did not let me explain that kings and cobblers alike have been disowning unfit heirs since the beginning of time.
When Walt started working on the Florida project, his main personal focus was on EPCOT (Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow). He'd gone full futurist and wanted to build a model community that would address all the problems he'd seen in urbanization.
To facilitate this, once Disney went public with their land acquisitions, they asked Florida to create a special watershed improvement district for them. This was known as the Reedy Creek Improvement District. Effectively, it emancipated their land from Orange and Osceola counties.
Within its boundaries, the RCID had primary responsibility for most county and municipal levels of government. In practical application, this means that RCID has its own fire dept, its own building codes, it's own health and environmental depts, and responsibility and authority over roads and utilities.
This was, obviously, an enormous boon to Disney, and a huge "fuck you" to the involved counties.
Walt died before realizing Epcot, and Roy had the whole thing redone as a park. By all rights the RCID should have ended there. But it carried on due to momentum and Florida generally liking the money that was rolling in.
Walt died before realizing Epcot, and Roy had the whole thing redone as a park.
And that's the saddest bit. No way to know, obviously, how Epcot would have turned out but it would have been great as an experiment. And instead of what might have been we got an amusement park run kiddy diddlers
I don't know if it would really have worked, but it's certainly interesting to consider the kind of cellular (fractal?) design of having multiple duplicated complexes.
There are a lot of weird intricacies with that EPCOT dream. For example, no one owned anything, and privacy was not legal in this area. Walt could have every TV replaced without warning, and that was the law.
On the other hand, the Reedy Creek safety laws are probably some of the best written, and most enforced of any county I can think of. They work hard to make sure everything is safer than safe. The regulations for places at Disney are to find the hardest strongest regulation in the world and have that as the basis. Then, if someone designs something, they have to prove it either fits the regulation or exceeds it using a newer technique covered by the regulation. People who work design for Disney end up doing regular architecture when they need a break.
It's not a surprise that when you combine the two, you get a dictator who doesn't understand why everyone dislikes them.
European cars may be safer than American ones but for about four decades you couldn't buy one here if they didn't have giant ass sealed beam headlights that European builders hated.
If the RCID drops, the same sort of thing will happen to Disney's parks when Orange County Dept of Building Safety comes in.
It doesn't matter if what Disney has is safer than the rule. Only whether it CONFORMS to the rule. Because exceeding and conforming are not the same thing.
I suspect that a great many buildings in the Disney parks do not fully conform to building, electrical, accessibility, and fire codes as written, and if they're not as written, then they don't conform, period.
The most in danger is probably the elevated monorail. I can't imagine any bridge inspector looking at the steel plate struts holding the spans and not immediately deeming them structurally deficient and obsolete. You just can't have a single solid plate supporting that much load. They're gonna get up there, find fatigue cracks, and that's it, done, shut'er'down.
It doesn't matter if what Disney has is safer than the rule. Only whether it CONFORMS to the rule. Because exceeding and conforming are not the same thing.
I suspect that a great many buildings in the Disney parks do not fully conform to building, electrical, accessibility, and fire codes as written, and if they're not as written, then they don't conform, period.
Oh damn, you are right, and this is insightful. Disney might be in a spot of bother here because of this.
It's also been pointed out that this will supposedly result in a massive tax increase in Orange county, because Disney (via RCID) spends a lot more on maintaining better quality roads than the surrounding area.
Except what it REALLY means is that if Disney wants a road fixed, they're at the mercy of the county, which is composed of Florida man.
That may actually be the worst bit for Disney, that they could potentially lose control over Osceola Parkway, World Drive, Buena Vista Drive, Western Way, and DEFINITELY a segment of US 192 and its intersection with Interstate 4.
There's a liberty argument to be made in favor of prostitution but [usually Chinese] fronts that traffic unwilling women across borders and take their passports, only to make a living off their perpetually indentured servants is anything but freedom.
There is no liberty or justice in honeypotting. Arrest people committing real crimes, don't make up fake ones to convince at the moment innocent people to become criminals.
Crimes of opportunity make up a huge share of all crimes. If there was no opportunity, often there would be no crime and thereby no victim. Ruby Ridge itself literally wouldn't have happened if the ATF hadn't convinced Weaver over months to commit a crime.
It doesn't matter how evil the criminal is, you don't trample the innocent to get to them. And in your example, literally nothing has been done about the Chinese pimps stealing these women anyway, just a few dumb men arrested.
It’s one thing to give a company that keeps investing in their business in your state a tax break since they were probably making Florida more money in tourists with each new ride, resort, or expansion. But as soon as the business starts talking about making it their duty to overturn laws….. it’s at that point the company thinks they are bigger than they are and they deserve to be knocked down a couple of pegs. The people of Florida vote on the law makers of Florida…. Not the Disney shareholders. And I bet a few of them are upset about chapek and co losing them money as well
If you're a Disney shareholder, you just lost $200m in tax breaks but crazy cool shit like the unique ability to control their own water, power, emergency services & more.
All because your CEO wanted to appease a few groomers. If I was a shareholder I'd be calling for his head.
When the left says they hate big corporations, they mean they hate conservatives.
The left haven't hated the banks since 2012.
All the banks had to do was start promoting faggotry and the left suddenly loved them.
They mean any company they don't control.
The banks are theirs now too.
For real. They hate random bakers who open up a tiny local shop, and kneel to Apple, Disney, Twitter, and Amazon.
I had a conversation with someone who was laboring under the impression that because one of Walt's great-niblings was a troon, that the company had to take a public stance in favor of troonery.
He did not let me explain that kings and cobblers alike have been disowning unfit heirs since the beginning of time.
Some people simply will not listen to reason.
It’s not even Walt’s descendant, it’s his brothers. Walt only had one biological daughter and an adopted daughter.
Niblings? Redditor detected
I don't know if the troon is actually a man or a woman, and couldn't be arsed to look it up.
Doesn't save you from being a degenerate with too many social media accounts. Whine about pedos all day, yet you have a reddit acc
What's more important to Disney:
Therein lies the answer to their behavior.
If you're still a Disney shareholder, fuck you and your ESG funds.
For those who don't know the history...
When Walt started working on the Florida project, his main personal focus was on EPCOT (Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow). He'd gone full futurist and wanted to build a model community that would address all the problems he'd seen in urbanization.
To facilitate this, once Disney went public with their land acquisitions, they asked Florida to create a special watershed improvement district for them. This was known as the Reedy Creek Improvement District. Effectively, it emancipated their land from Orange and Osceola counties.
Within its boundaries, the RCID had primary responsibility for most county and municipal levels of government. In practical application, this means that RCID has its own fire dept, its own building codes, it's own health and environmental depts, and responsibility and authority over roads and utilities.
This was, obviously, an enormous boon to Disney, and a huge "fuck you" to the involved counties.
Walt died before realizing Epcot, and Roy had the whole thing redone as a park. By all rights the RCID should have ended there. But it carried on due to momentum and Florida generally liking the money that was rolling in.
And that's the saddest bit. No way to know, obviously, how Epcot would have turned out but it would have been great as an experiment. And instead of what might have been we got an amusement park run kiddy diddlers
I like to imagine it would have been like the pre-fallout world depicted in Fallout™.
The curious with a half hour to kill should consider watching the presentation.
I don't know if it would really have worked, but it's certainly interesting to consider the kind of cellular (fractal?) design of having multiple duplicated complexes.
There are a lot of weird intricacies with that EPCOT dream. For example, no one owned anything, and privacy was not legal in this area. Walt could have every TV replaced without warning, and that was the law.
On the other hand, the Reedy Creek safety laws are probably some of the best written, and most enforced of any county I can think of. They work hard to make sure everything is safer than safe. The regulations for places at Disney are to find the hardest strongest regulation in the world and have that as the basis. Then, if someone designs something, they have to prove it either fits the regulation or exceeds it using a newer technique covered by the regulation. People who work design for Disney end up doing regular architecture when they need a break.
It's not a surprise that when you combine the two, you get a dictator who doesn't understand why everyone dislikes them.
European cars may be safer than American ones but for about four decades you couldn't buy one here if they didn't have giant ass sealed beam headlights that European builders hated.
If the RCID drops, the same sort of thing will happen to Disney's parks when Orange County Dept of Building Safety comes in.
It doesn't matter if what Disney has is safer than the rule. Only whether it CONFORMS to the rule. Because exceeding and conforming are not the same thing.
I suspect that a great many buildings in the Disney parks do not fully conform to building, electrical, accessibility, and fire codes as written, and if they're not as written, then they don't conform, period.
The most in danger is probably the elevated monorail. I can't imagine any bridge inspector looking at the steel plate struts holding the spans and not immediately deeming them structurally deficient and obsolete. You just can't have a single solid plate supporting that much load. They're gonna get up there, find fatigue cracks, and that's it, done, shut'er'down.
Oh damn, you are right, and this is insightful. Disney might be in a spot of bother here because of this.
It's also been pointed out that this will supposedly result in a massive tax increase in Orange county, because Disney (via RCID) spends a lot more on maintaining better quality roads than the surrounding area.
Except what it REALLY means is that if Disney wants a road fixed, they're at the mercy of the county, which is composed of Florida man.
That may actually be the worst bit for Disney, that they could potentially lose control over Osceola Parkway, World Drive, Buena Vista Drive, Western Way, and DEFINITELY a segment of US 192 and its intersection with Interstate 4.
You can see right here the point where you go from county to RCID roads...
Guess what Disney, you're in FLORIDA now.
Can't wait until the state troopers and the reconstituted Florida State Guard storm Disney World and perp walk out like 350 pedos.
Yeah, troopers probably make up a huge portion of those pedos.
Sorry to burst your bubble
Should they not?
There's a liberty argument to be made in favor of prostitution but [usually Chinese] fronts that traffic unwilling women across borders and take their passports, only to make a living off their perpetually indentured servants is anything but freedom.
There is no liberty or justice in honeypotting. Arrest people committing real crimes, don't make up fake ones to convince at the moment innocent people to become criminals.
Crimes of opportunity make up a huge share of all crimes. If there was no opportunity, often there would be no crime and thereby no victim. Ruby Ridge itself literally wouldn't have happened if the ATF hadn't convinced Weaver over months to commit a crime.
It doesn't matter how evil the criminal is, you don't trample the innocent to get to them. And in your example, literally nothing has been done about the Chinese pimps stealing these women anyway, just a few dumb men arrested.
and female pedos and rapists barely get arrested themselves, and usually only after enough backlash has been raised by them not doing so.
Good. Fuck Disney.
Make them pay.
This is totally unacceptable
... Because that tax privilege, self-governing power, and special exemption status should have been expanded to the rest of Florida.
DeSantis is a lion. Finally a red politician who knows how to fight, instead just to complain.
It’s one thing to give a company that keeps investing in their business in your state a tax break since they were probably making Florida more money in tourists with each new ride, resort, or expansion. But as soon as the business starts talking about making it their duty to overturn laws….. it’s at that point the company thinks they are bigger than they are and they deserve to be knocked down a couple of pegs. The people of Florida vote on the law makers of Florida…. Not the Disney shareholders. And I bet a few of them are upset about chapek and co losing them money as well
Tis a nice start, but they owe a lotta blood and flesh still.