Culture is downstream from law. While oldfags understand the importance of archive everything, many users still direct link to twatter and other sites controlled by progressives out of imbecilic laziness. Banning posts from these types of sites would foster the good habit of archiving, which both deprives the enemy of resources and preserves a record nominally outside of their control.
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I'm for banning twitter link posts just because "some asshole said something on twitter" without context is so low effort that it isn't worthy of a post.
But at the same time the forum doesn't get so many posts that stuff falls off the front page too quickly so no reason to curate until we get more content.
This isn't even a proposal to ban those low effort posts, although adding a little extra work could have that as an effect. It would merely force people to post the archive instead, and a direct link could still be put in the comments if someone felt so inclined.
I remember when people asked why I archived Fox News on kia1. The exact response was that archive was necessary for 2 reasons. 1. If someone wants to give a site traffic they are free to click on that nifty little link archive has. 2. In a war of disinformation always keep records.
Fox news also has shitty autoplay videos, unless you've disabled that.
Everything on KiA1 was already automatically archived though.
Should we try to get that functionality here as well?
Considering the recent changes to Twitter, I think we should. Links barely work at all now if you don't have an account.
Unfortunately, sometimes archives don't work or the post is a video.
There are alternative front ends such as nitter.net that can play video and still deprive twitter of traffic and tracking.
Opening up Twitter links in Brave in Private Mode without an account seems to restore functionality and stop Twitter's pop-ups.
Ideal would be linking to a specialized archive, like nitter (is that still around?), and making it so those embed here. Even better if direct links would autosubmit and autoconvert to the archive link.
nitter.net is still around, which is an alternative front end without the tracking.
I''m against banning any source here.
If you don't like the thread link, don't click on it.
We came here to speak freely about any topic, when we start banning things we become the same as the other restrictive internet paces we fled from.
Think of it less like banning and more like disciplinary guidance.
Newfags need to learn somehow.
And, like Tent said above, you could put the original source in the comments.
I will not stop chastising newfags about this.
I'm in the archive everything camp. It's most urgent in the case of progressive shit holes, but even based sites are in danger of being infiltrated or taken down, either purposely or by the natural life cycle of the internet. So those should be archived as well, even if they're directly linked and the archive is posted in the comments. I don't know if there would be any collateral damage to the community's growth if that were enforced by a rule, so I'm not advocating anything rule wise. This is definitely a discussion that needs to happen, so it's good that it's being brought up.
Yes. Archive everything policy should be in effect for everything except video links.
Archive everything, no exceptions.
When you can effectively archive video links, I'll agree with that.
What part of "no exceptions" was unclear?
The part where I asked your damn opinion. Still don't see it.
Suck it up cupcake. You're wrong and you're gonna hear about it.
Nope. You are wrong and only you care about it.
Sometimes there's videos that you can't see.
nitter.net is an alternative front end that plays videos.
No excuses.
Archive every post instead
You also must never be the thought police.
NO LIMITS ON FREE SPEECH.
Just make the site auto-archive EVERYTHING.
I do agree with a general policy of archiving everything, the more nodes archived the better. But we could try and automate the process instead and then encourage people to archive rather than a having a hard rule.
Yes. Without a doubt.