Yeah but he also has a lot of easily quotable anti-religion sounding sentences, so they pull those out and treat him like this super anti-theist.
Its one of the biggest flaws of philosophy as a field in the modern age. Where people only know these massive figures by soundbites and then building their understanding of the world off them, instead of digesting the massive work that proves and explains said soundbite to a point where it means something completely different.
That's a paragraph. They live only in soundbites, which is the problem I was getting at. He, like most philosophers of the day, have singular sentences they can extract without context to say what they want to hear.
Because god forbid they read the whole book to watch the mental grappling the author's went through and possibly go through it themselves.
It is funny that we're here debating how best to packetize a thought like this, and after short order we were successful. But they must consume 3 pages on a 4-panel comic because of word vomit. Somehow, I don't think they're averse to long-winded prose, but rather they resist any penetrative idea at all. They WRAP themselves in word-noise all the time to avoid anything from outside getting in.
They are not our target of convincing. They are merely the enemy in competition for the normal people with lives to lead who can consume our nuggets of truth (memes) but sluff off their self-important ramblings as mad spew. The only hope our opponents have of convincing is constant exposure (schools), because short-term exposure is the domain of simple truth, and that's not on their side.
As more of an anti-theist, and a fan of the history of science, they've got no damn choice.
The Enlightenment, it's scientific revolution, and it's philosophies are all Christian. So is the university system. That's what they are supposed to be professing.
Hell, Islam is filled to the brim with warfare, incest, and pedophiles, and they managed to discover a whole bunch of shit before collapsing their own civilization on their head and remaining stagnant for hundreds of years.
The issue really isn't "how can they believe this silly shit", it needs to be "who is telling them this silly shit makes sense and why are they not thinking skeptically when they are explicitly trained to do so?"
And I'd rather we use that question to answer why they are falling FOR FUCKING BLUE ANON CONSPIRACIES AND TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME before answering why they buy into Christendom.
Let's start with the most pressing cult. The one that allowed Andrew Cuomo to kill 15,000 people without consequence.
I'm trying not to be put in a Covid concentration camp, marched off to the SJW's gulag, or be beheaded in an act of cultural enrichment by the local Islamist. Crockoduck nonsense and "bananas prove evolution false" are retarded, but please stop trying to chemically castrate the fucking children.
Christianity is a dumb fairytale that only stupid people believe
Christianity is a dumb fairytale that even intelligent people are fooled by.
How can someone so smart believe in something that only morons do?
Plenty of things that smart people fall for just as morons do. Credit default swap and subprime mortgages are fine examples. There are plenty of hedge funds full of PhDs and even Nobel laureates that went bankrupt.
nearly every single great scientific work or piece of literature in history was created by someone who was religious.
Unless you can prove that being religious aided their scientific work, I don't see how this is even relevant. Can you demonstrate cause and effect?
The short answer to your question is that the concept of a supreme divinity that fixed universal laws of how the world would always operate after he or she set it in motion paved the way for both the scientific method and rationality.
(The former being empiricism and the latter being...mostly pure math I guess, which often turns out surprisingly useful)
If you're a pagan, and it's all up to where you happen to be and the mercurial whims of local spirits to decide whether or not your kid's gonna die of hypothermia in a bad winter, there's little incentive to "figure out the way the whole world works" while you're trying to scrape calories out of the frozen dirt.
What about that friar, Gregor Mendel who founded the modern science of genetics? What a moron! Why bother learning why different strains of peas pass on different traits, when you could just eat them?!
The greatest hits include:
"He wasn't a Christian, he never went to Rome." Lol? So if you are poor, you can't be Christian. Only poor people born in and around Rome can be Christian.
"He was only Christian because of his mother." Say the same about Muslims and Jews, I dare you.
"Who also wasn't a proper Christian, she just wanted to find people nice to her." First of all, most of us are not looking for people who are abusing us. Woah, mate. Also, how condescending can a person get?
"He wasn't a Christian, no Christian can create anything entertaining." This is too dumb. Jim Butcher is Christian. I probably read all his books crying. Or he is also suddenly not Christian, because his books have a wizard riding a T-rex to battle?
The author references this thing: https://archive.is/jRqvo ("Is ‘The Lord of the Rings’ a queer love story?") as evidence of his claims (which he also wrote, so, haha).
He describes Tolkien and Lewis' famous decades long debate on the nature of Christianity, literature, allegory and myth as: "When he explained Christianity to a struggling C.S. Lewis..."
That article is so bad as well.
"We decided that his best friend was gay, so he is also gay and his book is gay." Was his family pet also gay? Is gay an infection? So if you ever sat on a bench where a gay person sat before, you are gay now, so if the sandwich you made and your car and your potted plants?
Dark skinned invading hordes coming from the south. A world of ethnic groups living separatly. A struggle against a force that seeks to unify everything into sameness. Some superior kin not as easily corrupted as other races. High elfs and royals of superior stock.
And while it doesn't call for the subordination of women, they're not exactly featured either. The few women are either feminine types, or oracle types. As is right since they would have no business tagging along on a dangerous adventure.
As is right since they would have no business tagging along on a dangerous adventure
Hell, in a deleted scene of the Two Towers Eómer straight up told Éowyn that war is hell and she should stay as far away as she could, which was the right thing to do. No one should want to go to war, it's a unfortunate necessity in life.
Middle Earth is inextricably Catholic, and to say otherwise is to demonstrate a profound ignorance of both theology and Tolkein's work. Of course, progressives are also in constant denial of the Christian teleology that permeates their own world view.
In a late phase of tinkering with his mythology, Tolkien wrote in The Silmarillion of Middle-Earth having a Creator deity (‘Eru Ilúvatar’ or ‘The One’), and lower spirits called ‘Valar’.
This doesn’t exactly scream ‘Christianity’ to me.
The article author is actually retarded.
Seriously, how stupid does one have to be to write these sentences and not realize it is analogous to God and angels?
Archived idiot thinks it really matters one way, posters here seem to think it really matters another way.
Do we hate on sci-fi authors because they're Mormons? (statistically speaking, at least). It is, after all, a heretical branch. Do we hate on the pope, just because he isn't Catholic? Wait, maybe a bad example, there.
It matters because ridicule disrupts the March of Progress that sounds a lot like jackboots and a lot closer every day. It matters because this self-important fellow is doing his best to tear down the monuments of culture and without the sharp criticism of derisive laughter he deserves, he might succeed. 700 deleted statues in the last 3 years are indeed powerful enemy action and should be forcibly rejected.
Being laughed at cuts a charlatan at his knees. And so, we laugh, and equip others with our arguments so that they may laugh and reject alongside.
It's not that bad honestly. I get the feeling he's trying his best at saying things that push into the right direction without upsetting the massive amount of degenerate anti right idiots. If the pope gets canceled it's gonna be a mess.
Sounds like this guy has never heard of the Silmarillion, specifically the first chapter that's basically a retelling of Genesis from a fantastical perspective, complete with the One God that this guy insists is absent from Tolkien's work.
Other articles by the same author on Medium are amazing, too. It's unbelievable how this guy manages to be wrong about everything he writes about. I'm not exactly a theologian but this faggot hasn't seen a bible in his entire life, which is impressive because he claims to be raised Evangelical (which explains the blindingly obvious daddy issues). I've seen plenty of progtarded takes on Christianity but this is probably the most egregious garbage I've ever seen.
If you're not openly anti gay all your work is pro gay
If you're not openly Christian (of course Tolkien actually was but these idiots can't understand it) all your work is anti Christian
Also if you are openly anti gay you're just in denial because "literally every man in the world constantly thinks of fucking other men and I'm definitely not a projecting degenerate".
The full quote is here. For his political views, I suggest The Hobbit Party by Jay Richards. The author concludes that Tolkien would probably lean towards libertarianism today.
Yeah but he also has a lot of easily quotable anti-religion sounding sentences, so they pull those out and treat him like this super anti-theist.
Its one of the biggest flaws of philosophy as a field in the modern age. Where people only know these massive figures by soundbites and then building their understanding of the world off them, instead of digesting the massive work that proves and explains said soundbite to a point where it means something completely different.
That's a paragraph. They live only in soundbites, which is the problem I was getting at. He, like most philosophers of the day, have singular sentences they can extract without context to say what they want to hear.
Because god forbid they read the whole book to watch the mental grappling the author's went through and possibly go through it themselves.
It is funny that we're here debating how best to packetize a thought like this, and after short order we were successful. But they must consume 3 pages on a 4-panel comic because of word vomit. Somehow, I don't think they're averse to long-winded prose, but rather they resist any penetrative idea at all. They WRAP themselves in word-noise all the time to avoid anything from outside getting in.
They are not our target of convincing. They are merely the enemy in competition for the normal people with lives to lead who can consume our nuggets of truth (memes) but sluff off their self-important ramblings as mad spew. The only hope our opponents have of convincing is constant exposure (schools), because short-term exposure is the domain of simple truth, and that's not on their side.
As more of an anti-theist, and a fan of the history of science, they've got no damn choice.
The Enlightenment, it's scientific revolution, and it's philosophies are all Christian. So is the university system. That's what they are supposed to be professing.
Hell, Islam is filled to the brim with warfare, incest, and pedophiles, and they managed to discover a whole bunch of shit before collapsing their own civilization on their head and remaining stagnant for hundreds of years.
The issue really isn't "how can they believe this silly shit", it needs to be "who is telling them this silly shit makes sense and why are they not thinking skeptically when they are explicitly trained to do so?"
And I'd rather we use that question to answer why they are falling FOR FUCKING BLUE ANON CONSPIRACIES AND TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME before answering why they buy into Christendom.
Let's start with the most pressing cult. The one that allowed Andrew Cuomo to kill 15,000 people without consequence.
I'm trying not to be put in a Covid concentration camp, marched off to the SJW's gulag, or be beheaded in an act of cultural enrichment by the local Islamist. Crockoduck nonsense and "bananas prove evolution false" are retarded, but please stop trying to chemically castrate the fucking children.
One of my all time favourite quotes is
Christianity is a dumb fairytale that even intelligent people are fooled by.
Plenty of things that smart people fall for just as morons do. Credit default swap and subprime mortgages are fine examples. There are plenty of hedge funds full of PhDs and even Nobel laureates that went bankrupt.
Unless you can prove that being religious aided their scientific work, I don't see how this is even relevant. Can you demonstrate cause and effect?
The short answer to your question is that the concept of a supreme divinity that fixed universal laws of how the world would always operate after he or she set it in motion paved the way for both the scientific method and rationality.
(The former being empiricism and the latter being...mostly pure math I guess, which often turns out surprisingly useful)
If you're a pagan, and it's all up to where you happen to be and the mercurial whims of local spirits to decide whether or not your kid's gonna die of hypothermia in a bad winter, there's little incentive to "figure out the way the whole world works" while you're trying to scrape calories out of the frozen dirt.
(I'm agnostic, for the record.)
Not to mention that dumb Bishop George Berkeley who pointed out some weak spots in Newton's initial formulation of calculus.
What a couple of absolute rubes just yelling past each other, amirite?!
What about that friar, Gregor Mendel who founded the modern science of genetics? What a moron! Why bother learning why different strains of peas pass on different traits, when you could just eat them?!
In fairness, Isaac Newton was a narcissistic cunt.
He didn't invent gravity, he explained it through calculus.
And yeah, it definitely made him egotistical.
The greatest hits include:
"He wasn't a Christian, he never went to Rome." Lol? So if you are poor, you can't be Christian. Only poor people born in and around Rome can be Christian.
"He was only Christian because of his mother." Say the same about Muslims and Jews, I dare you.
"Who also wasn't a proper Christian, she just wanted to find people nice to her." First of all, most of us are not looking for people who are abusing us. Woah, mate. Also, how condescending can a person get?
"He wasn't a Christian, no Christian can create anything entertaining." This is too dumb. Jim Butcher is Christian. I probably read all his books crying. Or he is also suddenly not Christian, because his books have a wizard riding a T-rex to battle?
Haha, additionally:
I think I'm gonna stop reading there...
That article is so bad as well.
"We decided that his best friend was gay, so he is also gay and his book is gay." Was his family pet also gay? Is gay an infection? So if you ever sat on a bench where a gay person sat before, you are gay now, so if the sandwich you made and your car and your potted plants?
"Don't wanna catch The Gay, now" - your average proglodyte's Liberal mother 10 years ago
This is what university is now. Go look at what the Tolkien society does. "How Tolkien makes me feel about putting things in my butt: An essay"
I'd add
to the greatest hits.
I now have a new author to look up. Thanks!
Also, try Larry Correia, super based, super fun.
LOTR couldn't possibly be more openly racist.
Dark skinned invading hordes coming from the south. A world of ethnic groups living separatly. A struggle against a force that seeks to unify everything into sameness. Some superior kin not as easily corrupted as other races. High elfs and royals of superior stock.
And while it doesn't call for the subordination of women, they're not exactly featured either. The few women are either feminine types, or oracle types. As is right since they would have no business tagging along on a dangerous adventure.
LOTR is incredibly based.
Hell, in a deleted scene of the Two Towers Eómer straight up told Éowyn that war is hell and she should stay as far away as she could, which was the right thing to do. No one should want to go to war, it's a unfortunate necessity in life.
Well, the only female fighter in the books hid the fact that she was a woman...
Wow, that's... Extreme.
We really have reached a nadir of culture, for that drivel to even get published, let alone "popular" on the interwebs... :-/
I need the title of whatever book has a wizard and a T Rex please. I didn’t know I needed it, but I do.
One of the Dresden Files ones. Book 6 Or 7 or so.
It's not only a T-Rex, it's a zombie T-Rex. Like Bulb said, it's a Dresden Files book. I believe it's Dead Beat.
They're pretty quick reads imo, at least til the last few he's put out
"He's not a true Christian because he never made his required pilgrimage to Mecca."
Middle Earth is inextricably Catholic, and to say otherwise is to demonstrate a profound ignorance of both theology and Tolkein's work. Of course, progressives are also in constant denial of the Christian teleology that permeates their own world view.
The article author is actually retarded.
Seriously, how stupid does one have to be to write these sentences and not realize it is analogous to God and angels?
So why did he work so hard to convince C.S. Lewis that Christianity was true? As a practical joke?
I think you may have gotten their roles backwards fyi.
Tolkien was a queer nonbinary trans of color. Deal with it.
Why does it even matter?
Archived idiot thinks it really matters one way, posters here seem to think it really matters another way.
Do we hate on sci-fi authors because they're Mormons? (statistically speaking, at least). It is, after all, a heretical branch. Do we hate on the pope, just because he isn't Catholic? Wait, maybe a bad example, there.
It matters because ridicule disrupts the March of Progress that sounds a lot like jackboots and a lot closer every day. It matters because this self-important fellow is doing his best to tear down the monuments of culture and without the sharp criticism of derisive laughter he deserves, he might succeed. 700 deleted statues in the last 3 years are indeed powerful enemy action and should be forcibly rejected.
Being laughed at cuts a charlatan at his knees. And so, we laugh, and equip others with our arguments so that they may laugh and reject alongside.
Search "Orson Scott Card homopobia".
I hate him because he spent the first week of January making feminist propaganda declarations with religious justifications.
If it took this long for you to hate him, then you haven't been paying attention.
Link?
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/140vjl8Fya/a-more-feminine-pope-/c/
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/140vxp9dmm/remember-my-more-feminine-pope-p/c/
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/141EiPZC4L/pope-francis--getting-vaccinated/c/
It's not that bad honestly. I get the feeling he's trying his best at saying things that push into the right direction without upsetting the massive amount of degenerate anti right idiots. If the pope gets canceled it's gonna be a mess.
Sounds like this guy has never heard of the Silmarillion, specifically the first chapter that's basically a retelling of Genesis from a fantastical perspective, complete with the One God that this guy insists is absent from Tolkien's work.
Arda was created by Eru Iluvatar, literally God.
https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Eru_Il%C3%BAvatar
"Idiot" is redundant
Other articles by the same author on Medium are amazing, too. It's unbelievable how this guy manages to be wrong about everything he writes about. I'm not exactly a theologian but this faggot hasn't seen a bible in his entire life, which is impressive because he claims to be raised Evangelical (which explains the blindingly obvious daddy issues). I've seen plenty of progtarded takes on Christianity but this is probably the most egregious garbage I've ever seen.
If you're not openly anti gay all your work is pro gay If you're not openly Christian (of course Tolkien actually was but these idiots can't understand it) all your work is anti Christian
Also if you are openly anti gay you're just in denial because "literally every man in the world constantly thinks of fucking other men and I'm definitely not a projecting degenerate".
The full quote is here. For his political views, I suggest The Hobbit Party by Jay Richards. The author concludes that Tolkien would probably lean towards libertarianism today.