Obituary of a woman killed by the vax is the wildest obit I've ever read
(obits.oregonlive.com)
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ⓘ This post contains misinformation. The mourning family are not doctors and the vaccine is perfectly safe and it has not killed even one person, you bigot.
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I'm locking this obituary because you guys can't behave.
I think you mean "y'all", not "you guys", which is sexist and transphobic.
Needs to be "ya'll" just so the contraction is spelled wrong. Likewise having the word "loose" in there for when the family is talking about the person they have just lost.
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You can feel the family's pain and rage in every word.
She was bullied and pressured into doing something she didn't think was safe and, just as she feared, it killed her.
She was effectively murdered by the government.
I particularly think one who is so passionately involved in their children's education or whatever would see first hand that they need to be taken out and homeschooled. Particularly in Seattle of all places. She wouldn't have had to take the vaccine to do that. If I had to venture a guess that while she opposed the vaccine, she still leaned woke on a lot of policies. Just a supposition of course.
"Jessica and Tom were a remarkable team who prioritized family values and morals, and their Catholic Faith."
Wokies aren't too big on family values.
I'm not saying she was a reeeeing tranny leftist, but the thing is there's a lot in between. This is also an obituary, they aren't going to write things like "Jessica and Tom talked about their Catholic faith a lot, but really didn't follow it in practice." or "Jessica did make at least some effort to be involved in her kids education, but was unwilling to give up her career in human resource management to get her kids out of public schools." Again, I'm totally making assumptions for the sake of discussion here and not saying either of those things are actually true.
In the end, what we know is she still took the vaccine despite believing it was dangerous. So, I'm just speculating beyond that. Yes, it's a lot easier to do that from the sidelines, and I'm not saying I'd have done better in the situation. Hell, if I lived in Seattle and hadn't gotten myself out by now, I'd probably have done a lot worse.
It's a discussion forum. I'm making discussion. I was merely examining the situation from a different perspective. You are the one that read in to this that I was assuming I was the only one correct or even that I think I'm correct at all.
I also have no idea how I'm supposed to poison my worldview, too much critical thinking I guess? Nor how this not being Reddit is relevant. Who cares?
Thanks for the detailed response, all I ever aimed for was discussion. I enjoy discussing things, pointless as it may be. If anything the point for me is to stimulate my brain. I do think it's fair to say that maybe my comments were worded in such a way that was a bit too aggressive towards the deceased. That wasn't done with ill intent but just as a result of chatting casually on this "trash Reddit spinoff."
There's a lot or weight being put on whether I think these opinions right or wrong. The simple answer is, I don't care either way. I'm not even trying to be correct. If I were to present what I think is the most correct opinion, it's that we have a mother who did not want to take the vaccine that was backed into a corner by mandates, and after weighing her options ended up taking the vaccine. It killed her and it's brutally wrong for her to have been put in such a situation. That's also not much more than the obituary reduced to a couple sentences. If I'm going to be correct then I really have to work with mostly factual information.
What I'm left with after that is essentially the question, why didn't she make another choice? Why didn't she homeschool? Why didn't she move? Those are just two of many. I'd really like to see people out of the mindset of that they "can't" do something or they "didn't have a choice." It's a bit of a pet peeve of mine. There's always a choice. It's like the song lyric, "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice." Perhaps she didn't weigh these options at all or was less happy with the cost of other options, but she made a choice.
Where I do make a judgement is when I guessed that she leaned woke on a lot of policies. My context would be comparing what ideas I gather about this person to personal experience--i.e. people I know personally. I know quite a few people who say they are conservatives or something of that nature, but outside of a talking and one or two stronger stances it's just an act. They have this idea that we have to love everyone so it's okay to make them wear a mask to keep them safe or it's okay to teach critical race theory because of course we don't want to be racist. I see that fingerprint on this person based on what I know from this one link, hence what got me commenting to begin with. If I'm wrong, then it's nothing more than rambling on the internet in a way that's already been called pointless, so that's fine. If I appear totally batshit crazy, that's fine too.
My second post was really nothing more than the notions that being "woke" or not isn't an on/off switch. Having family values doesn't necessarily mean that one is not "woke." That and obituaries are typically written in a way that is favorable to the deceased. Just I presented it in a much more brash and sarcastic manner.
An actual Christian is not going to be coerced into taking a vaccine. We put God above all. Besides, a woman shouldn't be working anyway. There is a lot wrong in this story.
That's sort of my point that I don't think was necessarily received by all, something just seems off about the situation to me with the limited amount of context.
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My theory is the relatively few young people who have bad reactions (including death) to the vaccine would also be among the relatively few young people who have bad reactions (including death) to the coof. In either case it's the spike proteins doing damage (in natural coof the spikes cleave off). That being said it's insane to require people to put themselves in danger even if they are reducing their overall risk. If my theory is true the choice is "100 percent chance of small dose of spikes" vs "unknown percent chance of big dose of spikes" and all this while not knowing how badly you react to spikes.
The chance of side effects from the vaccine, by age group, is pretty much the inverse of the chance of sever covid reaction, by age group.
The idea that you'd be screwed either way is baseless.
It's pretty fucking simple, actually: if you are over 60, you might want to take your chances with the shot, if you are under 60, there's almost no reason to do so, definitely no reason if you're under 30.
Do you have a source of side effects broken down by age (this isn't sarcasm or concern trolling I just am having trouble finding any good numbers, they are never broken down by age or it is it's only into two buckets)? Chance of death if infected with coof for 18-29 is 1/4,000 for unvaccinated vs 1/24,000 for vaccinated (at least according to the UK data). Fatal reactions to the vaccine have to be at least a couple orders of magnitude lower or they'd be stacking bodies.
According to CDC data (I know, but you have to work with something) for <16 the occurrence of myocarditis in people with covid is two orders of magnitude higher. Then up to 50 it's one order of magnitude, and above 50 it's back to two orders of magnitude. So even among the young there's an elevated risk of myocarditis from the coof. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e5.htm#T1_down
The problem with those numbers is that the vaccine doesn't stop the coof so you got increased risks from the vaccine and from the coof. I mean you can have both now. That's hardly encouraging.
I've considered that but it's also possible many of the vaccine complications emerge from administration, not properly aspirating a needle, injecting directly into the bloodstream vs just injecting into a muscle, etc. I've had friends who had COVID then months later got vaccinated and had incredibly severe reactions to the latter but not the former. In any case, I had COVID, it wasn't too bad. I don't need to roll the dice again with a vaccine.
The "vaccine" does not function how they claim it does and is not safe for human use.
At this point I am beyond convinced that any attributable positive outcomes from the "vaccine" are placebo and assumed affects. It does not prevent infection or spread, it does not protect against symptoms, and it causes your body to purge itself of the ability to create a natural response to corona type viruses.
That there's anyone who advocates for this garbage still is telling.
DrRollerGate has a substack article based on UK data that would suggest the vaccine reduces chance of death by 90% for most age groups, https://drrollergator.substack.com/p/uk-surveillance-data-first-look. An order of magnitude worse than the mainstream number but an order of magnitude better than unvaccinated.
See, I just don't see it that way.
There's nothing to control for.
His model is based on limited observational data. However, he's looking in on a system with terrible reporting standards that intentionally skew all sorts of data metrics.
We're all just led to assume that vaccines give better outcomes.
In regards to deaths it's my understanding that it falls almost entirely to the method of treatment used. For the longest time hospitals have been using the sedate and intubate method for severe cases, which highly trends with increased death. Inversely, those that treat early with things like Regeneron or Ivermectin show very limited deaths which is almost impossible to find in hospitals.
Then there's the big issue of symptomatic reporting. I know for a fact that where I am virtually all the case data is worthless for statistical or clinical usage. There's individual hospital groups 30m to an hour away from each other that have wildly different standards and procedures.
Based on all I've seen I just don't see a difference in terms of covid outcomes, and in fact see a negative trend by vaccination because it causes its own issues.
Do you really believe that? Be honest, use your adult mind.
Seriously, you cannot just accept this convenient excuse. The truth is right in front of you!
That's a pretty stupid theory considering it can never be tested.
I'll even fill in the second half of your theory: the "unknown percent chance" is actually ZERO.
I'm an electrician and I haven't quarantined or stopped working a single fuckin day and I've been in hundreds if not a thousand homes since the pandemic started and, trust me. Covid is fake. Nobody is fucking dying, I don't give a shit what numbers they come up with. If anybody was gonna catch Covid it's me, and I haven't even got the sniffles.
My own father told me NOT to get the vaccine because "absolutely nothing in your life will change." And he's correct. All these threats from government and OSHA and yet not once has anybody come out to the jobsite to go on any man dates. Every person I talk to in the real world doesn't believe a word of this shit and they are tired of hearing about it. The worst I'll encounter is a mask Karen who I just tell to shut the fuck up and mind your own business.
Anyone even considering getting this vaccine is an absolute brainwashed retard. Go outside.
A theory isn't stupid because it can't be tested. It just means it can't be tested.
If the theory is presented as something that can be relied on for making other concrete conclusions, then yes it is
I wasn't telling anyone to get the vaxx especially young people.
You're basing your theory on what, exactly?
The fact that myocarditis is also much more common in young people with covid than in the general population. I have another post on this thread that the CDC data lists people <16 with covid having two orders magnitude more myocarditis than those without covid.
The real truth is right before your eyes and you concoct fantasy would-haves to reconcile the fantasy story you believe. Wake up! The fantasy is going to require wilder and wilder would-haves to be believed, until the things you believe will be much wilder than anything you accused the anti-vaxx survivors of believing.
And the truth is?
Skimming through it, they don't mention what it did to her, did it? That's kind of annoying.
It's in the very first sentence bro.
I know it wasn't in the title of the article, but you need to skim just a little bit harder.
There are news articles with more information (all of which that I've seen make sure to remind you to get vaccinated anyway). Even Snopes had to confirm it as true.
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When will these hypochndriacs wake up. Learn about germs, then you will know what's going on and how to protect yourself from the propaganda.
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