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Obituary of a woman killed by the vax is the wildest obit I've ever read (obits.oregonlive.com)
posted 4 years ago by Booker 4 years ago by Booker +78 / -0
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– cartoonericroberts 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

My theory is the relatively few young people who have bad reactions (including death) to the vaccine would also be among the relatively few young people who have bad reactions (including death) to the coof. In either case it's the spike proteins doing damage (in natural coof the spikes cleave off). That being said it's insane to require people to put themselves in danger even if they are reducing their overall risk. If my theory is true the choice is "100 percent chance of small dose of spikes" vs "unknown percent chance of big dose of spikes" and all this while not knowing how badly you react to spikes.

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– WeedleTLiar 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

The chance of side effects from the vaccine, by age group, is pretty much the inverse of the chance of sever covid reaction, by age group.

The idea that you'd be screwed either way is baseless.

It's pretty fucking simple, actually: if you are over 60, you might want to take your chances with the shot, if you are under 60, there's almost no reason to do so, definitely no reason if you're under 30.

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– cartoonericroberts 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Do you have a source of side effects broken down by age (this isn't sarcasm or concern trolling I just am having trouble finding any good numbers, they are never broken down by age or it is it's only into two buckets)? Chance of death if infected with coof for 18-29 is 1/4,000 for unvaccinated vs 1/24,000 for vaccinated (at least according to the UK data). Fatal reactions to the vaccine have to be at least a couple orders of magnitude lower or they'd be stacking bodies.

According to CDC data (I know, but you have to work with something) for <16 the occurrence of myocarditis in people with covid is two orders of magnitude higher. Then up to 50 it's one order of magnitude, and above 50 it's back to two orders of magnitude. So even among the young there's an elevated risk of myocarditis from the coof. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e5.htm#T1_down

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– dbomb 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The problem with those numbers is that the vaccine doesn't stop the coof so you got increased risks from the vaccine and from the coof. I mean you can have both now. That's hardly encouraging.

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– Booker [S] 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

I've considered that but it's also possible many of the vaccine complications emerge from administration, not properly aspirating a needle, injecting directly into the bloodstream vs just injecting into a muscle, etc. I've had friends who had COVID then months later got vaccinated and had incredibly severe reactions to the latter but not the former. In any case, I had COVID, it wasn't too bad. I don't need to roll the dice again with a vaccine.

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– Killroyomega 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

The "vaccine" does not function how they claim it does and is not safe for human use.

At this point I am beyond convinced that any attributable positive outcomes from the "vaccine" are placebo and assumed affects. It does not prevent infection or spread, it does not protect against symptoms, and it causes your body to purge itself of the ability to create a natural response to corona type viruses.

That there's anyone who advocates for this garbage still is telling.

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– cartoonericroberts 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

DrRollerGate has a substack article based on UK data that would suggest the vaccine reduces chance of death by 90% for most age groups, https://drrollergator.substack.com/p/uk-surveillance-data-first-look. An order of magnitude worse than the mainstream number but an order of magnitude better than unvaccinated.

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– Killroyomega 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

See, I just don't see it that way.

There's nothing to control for.

His model is based on limited observational data. However, he's looking in on a system with terrible reporting standards that intentionally skew all sorts of data metrics.

We're all just led to assume that vaccines give better outcomes.

In regards to deaths it's my understanding that it falls almost entirely to the method of treatment used. For the longest time hospitals have been using the sedate and intubate method for severe cases, which highly trends with increased death. Inversely, those that treat early with things like Regeneron or Ivermectin show very limited deaths which is almost impossible to find in hospitals.

Then there's the big issue of symptomatic reporting. I know for a fact that where I am virtually all the case data is worthless for statistical or clinical usage. There's individual hospital groups 30m to an hour away from each other that have wildly different standards and procedures.

Based on all I've seen I just don't see a difference in terms of covid outcomes, and in fact see a negative trend by vaccination because it causes its own issues.

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– Stuffyknows2much 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Do you really believe that? Be honest, use your adult mind.

  1. Megacorporation administers millions of doses of a new chemical because they swear it is harmless and we must trust doctors
  2. Lots of people immediately get sick after taking the chemical
  3. Megacorporation announces that this is because the doctors are all angling their needles incorrectly, and the chemical is still entirely safe.

Seriously, you cannot just accept this convenient excuse. The truth is right in front of you!

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– TrashWolf 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

That's a pretty stupid theory considering it can never be tested.
I'll even fill in the second half of your theory: the "unknown percent chance" is actually ZERO.
I'm an electrician and I haven't quarantined or stopped working a single fuckin day and I've been in hundreds if not a thousand homes since the pandemic started and, trust me. Covid is fake. Nobody is fucking dying, I don't give a shit what numbers they come up with. If anybody was gonna catch Covid it's me, and I haven't even got the sniffles.
My own father told me NOT to get the vaccine because "absolutely nothing in your life will change." And he's correct. All these threats from government and OSHA and yet not once has anybody come out to the jobsite to go on any man dates. Every person I talk to in the real world doesn't believe a word of this shit and they are tired of hearing about it. The worst I'll encounter is a mask Karen who I just tell to shut the fuck up and mind your own business.
Anyone even considering getting this vaccine is an absolute brainwashed retard. Go outside.

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– cartoonericroberts 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

That's a pretty stupid theory considering it can never be tested.

A theory isn't stupid because it can't be tested. It just means it can't be tested.

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– Stuffyknows2much 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

If the theory is presented as something that can be relied on for making other concrete conclusions, then yes it is

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– cartoonericroberts 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I wasn't telling anyone to get the vaxx especially young people.

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– censorthisss 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

You're basing your theory on what, exactly?

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– cartoonericroberts 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The fact that myocarditis is also much more common in young people with covid than in the general population. I have another post on this thread that the CDC data lists people <16 with covid having two orders magnitude more myocarditis than those without covid.

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– Stuffyknows2much 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The real truth is right before your eyes and you concoct fantasy would-haves to reconcile the fantasy story you believe. Wake up! The fantasy is going to require wilder and wilder would-haves to be believed, until the things you believe will be much wilder than anything you accused the anti-vaxx survivors of believing.

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– cartoonericroberts 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

And the truth is?

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