Why are Americans like this?
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I wouldn't say Americans are like that. It's leftover TV laws from way back. The thing is if someone wanted to change it you're going to get the same super polarized opinions of anything else. You'd have one group that wants to allow and encourage anything and everything so they can put tranny porn on kids shows. Then the other group would want to require long pants and dresses. So, the rest of us just say "fuck it leave it alone." That's beside the fact with what all else is going on that we'd have any desire to spend energy worrying about broadcast TV laws of all things.
its been quite long since era before 2008 ended
There aren't any TV laws about butts. It's totally NBC and advertisers. Maybe they went overboard worrying about complaints to the FCC, but I think it was totally unreasonable even then. The show must already have been TV-MA.I haven't dug into case law, specific statutes, how it's interpreted or whatever, but this FCC page sure seems to state it's against the law.
https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/obscene-indecent-and-profane-broadcasts
I don't think it's nearly that far of a stretch to put a butt in the excretory organ category.
Ugh... I did look up the case law after reading your comment, and according to the FCC you are correct - their definition does include butts.
My favorite part of the document is this.
Won't somebody please think of the children?
But I could swear I've seen naked butts on broadcast TV since the rating system was implemented.
They look like angels maaaan its so dark and egdy
2013 feels like ages ago. Censorship was so quaint back then.
If you asked the vast majority of people if they wanted it censored, you'd probably get a lot of shrugs and uncaring.
Standards and Practices departments are HR on steroids and acid. They live to object to the most absurd things and then still let even more surprising things pass.
But, just like those HR girls, if they don't constantly flex their power, they would lose it. So they are always anal about everything.
Why are Jews like this
ftfy
thats a funny way to spell "jews"
Ah yes, the "America bad because we don't like gratuitous nudity" circlejerk. A Reddit classic.
Think yourself lucky you aren't the UK.
TV turns into softcore porn for women after 9-10pm.
FWIW, I generally like Bryan Fuller -- he was a writer for Star Trek DS9 and Voyager. Also Pushing Daisies which I really enjoyed. Haven't seen much else, but his writing is generally angsty and darkish.
Having said that, he came up with the idea for ST Discovery AND Michael Burnham, my least favorite Trek character of any series, so, fuck you guy.
Want his idea for Discovery an anthology series? That might have worked out better, as each season could only shit on canon so much.
I think he created the new klingorcs too.
Most Americans really don’t give a fuck about anything like this, culturally America is more like three or four different countries.
It's a holdover from before authoritarian christians were replaced by the church of the bluecheck.
Our culture is weird. We have no problem with images of gruesome violence, but anything that might be slightly sexual is taboo.
Do you think they would show actual images of someone flayed open on broadcast TV? The violence and gore mentioned in these type of threads are usually of the artificial variety. The nudity usually isn't artificial. Also which thing to you think children and young people are more likely to engage in? Brutal violence or sexual interactions?
Eh, why not focus on the example shown here? No they aren't real sliced open dead bodies but they are fairly disturbing recreations. Versus a butt. You say the nudity "usually isn't artificial" as if it would be ok if it was.
I'm fine with sex and nudity being censored but this kind of extreme gore porn being allowed is disgusting.
Broadcast and cable/streaming are two different beasts.
But what i dont get is why they couldnt make a cut where they zoomed/panned the shot to obscure the cracks if that was the objection.
It's called standards. It's weird to see them enforced as they show how far everything else has loosened.
Because of puritanical morality laws on what can and can't be shown on American TV. You can show people getting shot, beaten, blown the hell up, or any other number of horrific ways to die, but heaven forbid you show a nipple or a butt crack, because that might warp the children's fragile little minds or awaken some sort of lust in the viewers.
NBC, no nudity. Save it for the theatres, or learn how to be subtle how about? Silence of the Lambs didn't have gore quite like this. Be sparing, stop trying to degrade the culture by shocking the senses. We're already desensitized enough. Violence is common place and more understandable, the taboo on sex, though eroding, still exists to a degree, and it includes nudity. We should encourage it, not discourage it.
Not quite, but they do allow for A LOT of really gruesome gore, so long as it's done to promote nationalism. A perfect example is Operation Red Sea.
You thought the first 15 minutes of Saving Private Ryan was gory? Imagine two whole hours with that level of gore, but WORSE. They spare no expense to show you what happens to suicide bombers, and what happens to civilian victims caught in crossfires/explosions.
It's one of -- if not the most goriest movie I've ever seen. But it was a-okay by Chinese standards because it made the Chinese special forces look like top-notch, Rambo-class badasses.
Are you asking why a country founded by a bunch of puritan rebels have puritan values and love censorship, aka the silencing of blasphemy?
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that who our ancestors are is why we are this way now.