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posted 4 years ago by AzureAceStarburst69 4 years ago by AzureAceStarburst69 +16 / -0
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– acp_k2win 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

How many times have you wanked to this fantasy?

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– cccpneveragain 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

I used to think no, but I could get behind some sort of compulsory military service. Although it would also include women for the same amount of time in some sort of required civil service with physical fitness standards and a similar shitty military type lifestyle. Just not integrated with men in a military role.

Forced impregnation? No thanks. If you feel better birth rates are needed, this could be done in a lot of ways on it's own by stopping promotion of alphabet queers and doing away with incredibly lopsided divorce outcomes that destroy families in favor of women whoring.

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– Grumman 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

It's the stupidest way of addressing the problem. You could just ban seditious professors from radicalising young people without the four years of rape.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

What if you posted something but utter crap for just one day?

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– Indipendepede 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Depends how it's framed. There's certainly potential to explore interesting ideas and imagine the pros/cons of such a society, but otherwise it's a very broad premise that doesn't tell me if I'd like anything about the book.

What kind of factions or competing interests would there be? What perspective is the story told from? What values are in contention? Is there any conflict to be resolved or what would promote character development?

If literally all you've got is "There's no brown people here, all women belong in the kitchen and are happy, and there's nothing wrong with this utopia" then it's going to be just as boring as any communist fanfic the left would write.

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– Indipendepede 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I was thinking more of a blurb rather than the entire plot(the thing that goes on the back of the book that most people use to decide whether they would want to buy it). You still haven't given me much of a hook, just a setting.

Most stories have characters; who would we be following and why should we care about them? A down-on-his-luck incel dreaming of joining the army and turning into a giga-chad? Pacifistic office worker drafted into frontline combat having to resolve internal conflict between their non-violence and duty to serve? Young, rebellious woman who wants to be more than breeding apparatus, but doesn't know what else she could be(or maybe a Mulan-type join the mans' army)?

Those are just some half-arsed ideas, but it would go a long way to letting people know what kind of story you're actually trying to tell.

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– Galean 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Is this not kind of normal for older societies? Except the education part. You can just write about spartans at this point.

If you plan to write it in modern times I am not even sure if it would flop, but you need find reasons for this choices.

For instance, why is it whites-only? Israel wanted a jewish state because they were persecuted. Having a closed society is one thing but if you want to make it whites-only it would imply that whites from other countries can apply so you need a reason for that and have the writing skills to pull it off. Escaping persecution or preserving society are good reasons that can be expanded upon.

You can also make it extremely racist as a country but then explore the humanity of the individuals, it would make a great thought exercise in to the evil of racism. However this would require some award winning skills to pull off properly.

About having only male soldiers that would not be that far off, the idea of having mixed armies is relatively new. Having a nation where culturally women do not fight in war is what would happen if you allow people freedom of choice. If you want to set it in the future then you could put in some genetical enhancements that are built upon male physical traits and when tried on females it causes abnormal mutations in females.

Declining birth rates as a major crisis can also be explored, but you need another reason then feminism. For instance I liked the Mass Effect Krogan explanation and it could be a good way to tie everything together.

What I can think off as a plot that would somewhat work.

Whites face discrimination and create their own nation. They grow to a reasonable size, preferably off world somewhere. The problem is that this planet is the only one in a reasonable distance to travel to from Earth.

Earth is falling apart, all the identity politics slowed down the scientific advancement so now things like pollution and over-populations, poverty and disease are real problem. 

While initially the nations of Earth were all so happy to get rid of the oppressively whites now they look with envy to what the new nation is building. Earth media starts a smear campaign to blame all their problems on whites while taking 0 responsibility, "whites destroyed this planet and left it to us to fix the unfixable", they conveniently leave out the part were overpopulation and pollution was not created by the formerly white countries.

Inevitably a war is started, a war that has been for decades at the time the book takes place. A war that seems endless. Earth is trying to take over the new planet and whites to survive.

 Get the perspective off a guy from earth and the perspective of a guy from the new planet in order to show both sides. I would also get the  guy from Earth slowly realize that whites are not evil and they were basically forced to run away  while the guy from the new nation would understand that individually we are all the same is the politics keeping us apart but no peace can be obtain in the end because whites are few and hated.  

Maybe find a middle ground ending for the war where the 2 nations remain separated but the war ends with the guy from Earth exposing the manipulation of the globalist society to the world, how it started and what happened.


I'm not a fan of this premise, I'm just trying to find a way to make it work.

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– Geek-the-Mage 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Societies cannot be organized by force. This idea is a failure before it even starts.

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– Geek-the-Mage 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Because people will dissent in order to serve their own interests. What do you do with the dissenters?

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– IPegSpez 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

This sounds like you've been reading Starship Troopers over and over.

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– A2BS 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Compulsory insemination is a worrying idea, so this definitely needs revision.

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– Galean 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

No idea, he does not say a lot about how this is suppose to work. It looks like is sort of a militaristic nation that may not have families or individualism. The feeling I got from the title was something along the lines of women make babies and guys die in war and the society is built upon that. Since the death count is high I assume that women have no partner and the man is not going to be a father to the child, just a genetic donor.

It is something extreme and against human nature but he wants to write about this experiment not create it, so I see no harm.

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