Yeah, get a time machine and travel back 20 years.
Commies insert themselves into EVERYTHING and will take over unless they are actively watched for and repelled. The only solution is to explicitly reject commies and gatekeep against their standard bearers; feminists, racebaiters, degenerates, greens etc.
I remember a saying, although I forgot where it's from now. It basically says "any group that isn't actively anti-communist will eventually be subverted by communists". It certainly seems to be true when you look at the number of things that have already been subverted so far.
Yeah. Certainly not everyone, but there are lots of people who have very casual knowledge about something and focus only on the anti-wokeness and outrage bait. That's not meaningful discussion, it's an ideological bubble.
"Anything not explicitly right-wing will become left-wing in time."
That stated, have you tried Steam's game-specific forums? If you want to find people who like Borderlands 3 (the ebic lols they're youtubers lololololololololololololololololololololol my pronouns ar-), you could try on their Steam forum page, I think most people on that forum would be happy to discuss that game in positive glowing terms (or you're banned).
If you don't want the bleat like a sheep and mindlessly praise specific games but still discuss them, you could try 4chan. It's a crapshoot, but sometimes you might make or find a decent thread. Just lurk first, and know their culture.
"Anything not explicitly right-wing will become left-wing in time."
I'd say it's the other way around. You need massive censorship to keep things left-wing.
Mods have to put in considerable effort to keep things left-wing (which is why mods are usually lefty activists). Free speech sites are right-leaning. It's heavily censored and curated sites that are left-leaning.
That's why the actual saying is "any organization that is not explicitly right-wing will become left-wing". The implication is that leftists will infiltrate and subvert any power structure that does not actively recognize leftists and take concrete steps to prevent their subversive behavior.
I see a lot of 4chan posts that are butthurt about anything right-wing. Making a pro-Trump thread is pretty much begging for an Internet fight. And usually there's at least one anti-right-wing thread at any given time.
But it's also one of the few places I know where it's almost never a total circlejerk.
A truly censorship-free place will indeed become right wing, but the O'Sullivan Law is talking about organizations and those are expected to have at least some extent of censorship.
Even with minimum censorship a place can be subverted by communists, while a place with no moderation will become right-wing the moment they leave it alone for just a short while.
As JBP says, hierarchies are in human nature, so right-wing politics can literally arise from nothing, while the left is born from decades of degenerate, fallacious philosophy and can only be sustained through heavy censorship.
Slippery slope isn't a fallacy. If you don't stand for that ideal, then you get a "well, this particular thing is bad, so we should probably ban it", then "well, if that precedent was set, we should probably ban this, too", until you get a Safe Space where any dissent or original idea is a bannable offense.
The problem is I know a few, but if I suggest them they'll a) be flooded by wojakposters, bringing the community quality down or b) be flooded by leftists who want to sabotage them, so I tend to leave mention of them to a minimum.
It's like advertising a village with high quality of life to carpetbaggers. You just don't do it.
TV
lmao, nigh impossible unless you want to make your own independent self-funded web series and learn filmmaking on your own time. There's a reason television is oft mocked and ridiculed as a medium that lowers the consumer's intelligence; it's literally true, go look at any television discussion community and their grey matter levels are considerably lower than in other discussions online about other interests.
In general many creatives are pretty woke but discussions about technical matters like cinematography tend to obviate political topics by their own merit. So...creative fora?
Honestly, it's a tough ask, there. When films \ tv \ games were less overtly ideological and preachy, sure, but at the moment, merely not liking a series can draw accusations of misogyny, when the entire pieceis about wokeness, quite deliberately, you will struggle to separate the art from it.
I think so. A tolerable replacement for /v/gaming anyway. There's a fair few low quality memes and images being posted lately but there have been better discussions. It has also developed its own in-joke around Tetris being the greatest of all time. Browse a few pages to see and judge for yourself.
If you ignore the propaganda part of the propaganda, what else is there to discuss?
Technicalities, I suppose. I suggest going to forums for cinematographers, or sound engineers.
Otherwise current year programming is fawned over by brainwashed automatons praising the glorious messaging and critiqued as stunning and brave, or berated by people pointing out that it's trash brainwashing and critiqued as the attempt at social engineering that it is.
No, not really. You either use reddit or you use /v/. One can actually have discussion if you're ready to not go against the hivemind but even then you'd be surprised. The other is coomer garbage and shills. Maybe there's one good thread on /v/ a week if you're lucky.
I doubt, I'm just skeptical of the internet at this point. It seems like it just ended up empowering the collective and exposing the individual to abuse.
Gamers are treated like lab rats and mostly behave like so. We already live in some sort of tech dystopia.
A lot more money today is spent buying cosmetics for games than buying the games themselves, it's just depressing.
Ultimately, why even bother to discuss games on the internet?
I know we’re slowly being subverted and all, but is there a place where I can discuss the parts of the content that aren’t obviously intended to destroy us? I enjoy those parts.
Since the mainstream communications channels are woke trash heaps you'll have to forgive the people here venting about it sometimes. (all the time)
Yeah, get a time machine and travel back 20 years.
Commies insert themselves into EVERYTHING and will take over unless they are actively watched for and repelled. The only solution is to explicitly reject commies and gatekeep against their standard bearers; feminists, racebaiters, degenerates, greens etc.
In a woke society, it is not enough to be un-woke, we must be actively anti-woke.
I remember a saying, although I forgot where it's from now. It basically says "any group that isn't actively anti-communist will eventually be subverted by communists". It certainly seems to be true when you look at the number of things that have already been subverted so far.
O'Sullivan's Law?
Conquest's Second Law:
fugggggg xd
Kotakuinaction may be more to your liking.
Yeah. Certainly not everyone, but there are lots of people who have very casual knowledge about something and focus only on the anti-wokeness and outrage bait. That's not meaningful discussion, it's an ideological bubble.
"Anything not explicitly right-wing will become left-wing in time."
That stated, have you tried Steam's game-specific forums? If you want to find people who like Borderlands 3 (the ebic lols they're youtubers lololololololololololololololololololololol my pronouns ar-), you could try on their Steam forum page, I think most people on that forum would be happy to discuss that game in positive glowing terms (or you're banned).
If you don't want the bleat like a sheep and mindlessly praise specific games but still discuss them, you could try 4chan. It's a crapshoot, but sometimes you might make or find a decent thread. Just lurk first, and know their culture.
I'd say it's the other way around. You need massive censorship to keep things left-wing.
Mods have to put in considerable effort to keep things left-wing (which is why mods are usually lefty activists). Free speech sites are right-leaning. It's heavily censored and curated sites that are left-leaning.
Leftism dies without censorship.
That's why the actual saying is "any organization that is not explicitly right-wing will become left-wing". The implication is that leftists will infiltrate and subvert any power structure that does not actively recognize leftists and take concrete steps to prevent their subversive behavior.
That's the 4Chan corollary: any sufficiently free internet space will become right-winged.
I see a lot of 4chan posts that are butthurt about anything right-wing. Making a pro-Trump thread is pretty much begging for an Internet fight. And usually there's at least one anti-right-wing thread at any given time.
But it's also one of the few places I know where it's almost never a total circlejerk.
Is half-chan still considered free? I've haven't looked at it forever and there has been mountains of drama.
It's free-r, in the sense that China is freer than North Korea.
They are talking about different criteria.
A truly censorship-free place will indeed become right wing, but the O'Sullivan Law is talking about organizations and those are expected to have at least some extent of censorship.
Even with minimum censorship a place can be subverted by communists, while a place with no moderation will become right-wing the moment they leave it alone for just a short while.
As JBP says, hierarchies are in human nature, so right-wing politics can literally arise from nothing, while the left is born from decades of degenerate, fallacious philosophy and can only be sustained through heavy censorship.
Concrete free speech is explicitly right-wing.
Slippery slope isn't a fallacy. If you don't stand for that ideal, then you get a "well, this particular thing is bad, so we should probably ban it", then "well, if that precedent was set, we should probably ban this, too", until you get a Safe Space where any dissent or original idea is a bannable offense.
Well, you'd be wrong
The problem is I know a few, but if I suggest them they'll a) be flooded by wojakposters, bringing the community quality down or b) be flooded by leftists who want to sabotage them, so I tend to leave mention of them to a minimum.
It's like advertising a village with high quality of life to carpetbaggers. You just don't do it.
lmao, nigh impossible unless you want to make your own independent self-funded web series and learn filmmaking on your own time. There's a reason television is oft mocked and ridiculed as a medium that lowers the consumer's intelligence; it's literally true, go look at any television discussion community and their grey matter levels are considerably lower than in other discussions online about other interests.
In general many creatives are pretty woke but discussions about technical matters like cinematography tend to obviate political topics by their own merit. So...creative fora?
Honestly, it's a tough ask, there. When films \ tv \ games were less overtly ideological and preachy, sure, but at the moment, merely not liking a series can draw accusations of misogyny, when the entire pieceis about wokeness, quite deliberately, you will struggle to separate the art from it.
He’s asking if there are places where people are aware of the indoctrination but ignore it and enjoy the parts where it isn’t explicitly mentioned.
It’s a bit specialized, since most people don’t really like that kind of material.
c/Gaming?
I think so. A tolerable replacement for /v/gaming anyway. There's a fair few low quality memes and images being posted lately but there have been better discussions. It has also developed its own in-joke around Tetris being the greatest of all time. Browse a few pages to see and judge for yourself.
It's okay. Needs more users and a downvote to filter the nonsense and chez blunt posts but it's a good start
What you are asking for is not possible. All stories are projections of ideologies. There is no way around it. How could you ignore it?
Having said that, you might try c/lobotomies
If you ignore the propaganda part of the propaganda, what else is there to discuss?
Technicalities, I suppose. I suggest going to forums for cinematographers, or sound engineers.
Otherwise current year programming is fawned over by brainwashed automatons praising the glorious messaging and critiqued as stunning and brave, or berated by people pointing out that it's trash brainwashing and critiqued as the attempt at social engineering that it is.
Kiwi Farms, actually. The gaming board isn't as popular as their internet drama boards, but good discussion happens there.
The c/gaming is pretty solid and tight knit imo
No, not really. You either use reddit or you use /v/. One can actually have discussion if you're ready to not go against the hivemind but even then you'd be surprised. The other is coomer garbage and shills. Maybe there's one good thread on /v/ a week if you're lucky.
I doubt, I'm just skeptical of the internet at this point. It seems like it just ended up empowering the collective and exposing the individual to abuse.
Gamers are treated like lab rats and mostly behave like so. We already live in some sort of tech dystopia.
A lot more money today is spent buying cosmetics for games than buying the games themselves, it's just depressing.
Ultimately, why even bother to discuss games on the internet?
I know we’re slowly being subverted and all, but is there a place where I can discuss the parts of the content that aren’t obviously intended to destroy us? I enjoy those parts.
/tv/ and /v/ There is some good discussion but it won't be spoon-fed to you.
/tv/ can have good discussion but it means spending all day weeding through countless bait threads and /pol/ tourists.
Hilarious.
Even more hilarious if you're talking about Hiroyukichan.
How can you enjoy them?
The Skyrim subreddit is good. They tend to stick to the game/in game politics.