Buying used is a great option. Lots of idiots sell their perfectly fine phones so they can have the latest gadget.
Repairing is also a valid option. Do a bit of googling to see if your device can be fixed. Replacing the screen or the digitizer is possible. Replacing battery is also possible. Chances are it can be repaired, unless you ran over it or something.
Depending on what your goal is there's some choices. If you want to avoid something made in China, there's not much. Samsung generally doesn't as well as the limited selecton of Asus phones. Otherwise, I've generally liked my Motorola and Nokia phones. Yes, Nokia is still around and I was super happy with my Nokia 7.1 until I broke the screen, a particular bargain for $250 at the time. I currently have a Motorola One Action (also $250) and I liked the Nokia better, but it's still a fine phone.
So in short, if having a top-of-the-line phone is super important to you, I'd get a Samsung Galaxy S20. If you're like me and want something cheap and decent but are not a power user then I'd check out the Nokia 7.2.
All of this is Android, but I just disable as much Google as I can. If I ever get to the point I feel I really need to hide then having any cell phone is a bad idea.
Yeah, I was hoping that would take off. I lived just a few miles from that factory at the time. It might have but they sold the phones division off to China.
I've had more Motorola phones than anything and pre-Lenovo I'd recommend their smartphones backwards and forwards. The Lenovo one I have now is not a bad phone at it's price point, but it's not like they used to be.
I mean if trying to avoid Chinese manufacture. Phones are almost totally made in China.
Avoiding Apple and Google while meeting OP's requirements is pretty much totally impossible. Perhaps Lineage OS would be the closest you can get, and it's still Android but the open source parts.
Get the cheapest, dumbest piece of shit phone you can, so it doesn't track you as much. If you need GPS, buy a GPS without an internet connection. If you need cellular internet, buy a standalone mobile hotspot. If you need something like a smart phone, get a tablet without a cellular module.
Samsung are buggy pieces of crap. They fork unreleased versions of Android and when Google puts out a release version, Samsung never updates or rebases their version. So you are left with a beta version of Android with bugs that were already fixed by Google and Samsung will probably never back port the fix. Samsung will often make changes to Android code that break Apps.
This is BS. Google is even worse at fixing bugs than Samsung. Their "fixes" usually add more bugs than they fix, and often remove features too. Google is a cancer upon humanity.
Practically every Android App had specific code for Samsung devices because Samsung fucks up constantly.
This is a non-sequitur. Samsung adds features that aren't always in AOSP - this doesn't mean they are bugs. It means Google is shit at writing OSs.
Samsung devices are over represented in crash reports.
See above.
Samsung uses Google's code, so every bug Google has, Samsung has too.
Drivel. If Samsung were making such major changes as you claim, it would at the least have different bugs, and more likely, since they aren't as incompetent as Google's Android devs, fewer bugs.
I am telling you as an Android Developer and you can ask any other Android Developer on the planet the same thing, that Samsung fucks up Android and I need to write code specifically for Samsung.
I see I'm doing the equivalent of trying to explain algebra to a sack of potatoes.
You are not a programmer.
I'm a professional software engineer, and you are an idiot.
Depending on where you live, the features you want and the budget you have, Samsung, OnePlus and Motorola are all good brands. Only Motorola seems the most woke out these three with general pride support, but none of these three support Fuck Whitey.
I have a Motorola phone, the good thing about them is that they come with almost stock Android, very very little bloatware, they are usually not very expensive as well.
Samsung, and LG are fine. Plus, they are Korean brands that, last I checked, don't use slave labor to make them, unlike Apple, Huawei (or anything Chinese phone for that matter), or the Pixel. I've heard good things about the Sony Xperia too, but you might wanna avoid them because...ya know...Sony.
Give how they now have built in tracking API's, because COVID, yeah. And they're listening. I can't tell you the number of times we've noticed in the last two years where we're say standing in front of the Burts Bees display at a Target, make a comment, then the very next ad we see when we get home on Youtube is for burts bees products. Yet something that we never search for or otherwise even purchase.
Just the other day we were talking about something over lunch out at a restaurant and get home and guess what the ads we saw were. Again never searched it or anything like that or even talked about it around the house before.
Consider getting a nu-BlackBerry, like a Key2. They run Android now, and they should be relatively cheap, seeing as they're not popular. Surely that's normie enough.
Buying used is a great option. Lots of idiots sell their perfectly fine phones so they can have the latest gadget.
Repairing is also a valid option. Do a bit of googling to see if your device can be fixed. Replacing the screen or the digitizer is possible. Replacing battery is also possible. Chances are it can be repaired, unless you ran over it or something.
if you're that worried then fuck returning it, just smash it with a sledge.
Depending on what your goal is there's some choices. If you want to avoid something made in China, there's not much. Samsung generally doesn't as well as the limited selecton of Asus phones. Otherwise, I've generally liked my Motorola and Nokia phones. Yes, Nokia is still around and I was super happy with my Nokia 7.1 until I broke the screen, a particular bargain for $250 at the time. I currently have a Motorola One Action (also $250) and I liked the Nokia better, but it's still a fine phone.
So in short, if having a top-of-the-line phone is super important to you, I'd get a Samsung Galaxy S20. If you're like me and want something cheap and decent but are not a power user then I'd check out the Nokia 7.2.
All of this is Android, but I just disable as much Google as I can. If I ever get to the point I feel I really need to hide then having any cell phone is a bad idea.
Yeah, I was hoping that would take off. I lived just a few miles from that factory at the time. It might have but they sold the phones division off to China.
I've had more Motorola phones than anything and pre-Lenovo I'd recommend their smartphones backwards and forwards. The Lenovo one I have now is not a bad phone at it's price point, but it's not like they used to be.
what do you mean? I would much rather give my data to Chinese than to google or apple
I mean if trying to avoid Chinese manufacture. Phones are almost totally made in China.
Avoiding Apple and Google while meeting OP's requirements is pretty much totally impossible. Perhaps Lineage OS would be the closest you can get, and it's still Android but the open source parts.
Get the cheapest, dumbest piece of shit phone you can, so it doesn't track you as much. If you need GPS, buy a GPS without an internet connection. If you need cellular internet, buy a standalone mobile hotspot. If you need something like a smart phone, get a tablet without a cellular module.
This is BS. Google is even worse at fixing bugs than Samsung. Their "fixes" usually add more bugs than they fix, and often remove features too. Google is a cancer upon humanity.
This is a non-sequitur. Samsung adds features that aren't always in AOSP - this doesn't mean they are bugs. It means Google is shit at writing OSs.
See above.
Drivel. If Samsung were making such major changes as you claim, it would at the least have different bugs, and more likely, since they aren't as incompetent as Google's Android devs, fewer bugs.
I see I'm doing the equivalent of trying to explain algebra to a sack of potatoes.
I'm a professional software engineer, and you are an idiot.
Depending on where you live, the features you want and the budget you have, Samsung, OnePlus and Motorola are all good brands. Only Motorola seems the most woke out these three with general pride support, but none of these three support Fuck Whitey.
I have a Motorola phone, the good thing about them is that they come with almost stock Android, very very little bloatware, they are usually not very expensive as well.
Samsung, and LG are fine. Plus, they are Korean brands that, last I checked, don't use slave labor to make them, unlike Apple, Huawei (or anything Chinese phone for that matter), or the Pixel. I've heard good things about the Sony Xperia too, but you might wanna avoid them because...ya know...Sony.
I loved the Moto G and bought two of them before upgrading to my current phone (not a Moto G this time).
Motorola's owned by Lenovo now, so no idea how much CCP fuckery is about.
If you have a legacy line, get a used Casio Boulder. A phone that's actually a phone.
Phones are woke now?
Give how they now have built in tracking API's, because COVID, yeah. And they're listening. I can't tell you the number of times we've noticed in the last two years where we're say standing in front of the Burts Bees display at a Target, make a comment, then the very next ad we see when we get home on Youtube is for burts bees products. Yet something that we never search for or otherwise even purchase.
Just the other day we were talking about something over lunch out at a restaurant and get home and guess what the ads we saw were. Again never searched it or anything like that or even talked about it around the house before.
Consider getting a nu-BlackBerry, like a Key2. They run Android now, and they should be relatively cheap, seeing as they're not popular. Surely that's normie enough.
https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/
I should have probably read past your title lol
I'm sure its full of spyware but I've come to like the LG phones.
Xiaomi.
Chinese people hates sjws.