The media is just trying to prevent any investigations period. They don't even believe their flimsy argument they are making.
As for Bret and Heather Weinstein, I never trusted them as they ultimately are leftist academics just not of the full woke variety. This was always their true colors.
All Americans should want an investigation. Biden voters would welcome an investigation if they thought they had nothing to fear. It would be an opportunity to dunk on Trump voters and show absence of fraud. The fact that they are vehemently against an investigation shows they themselves know they cheated. They did not win the election. They stole the election.
The fact remains that by NOT investigating vote/election fraud, it disenfranchises everyone who voted in the election. If there were ANY fraudulent ballots counted, it means that an equal number of legitimate ballots were cancelled out. This should not be a partisan issue at all.
All of us, we the people deserve fair and honest elections. Whether you are a Republican, Democrat, Independent, Libertarian, Green Party or a Kanye West voter.
All Americans should want an investigation. Biden voters would welcome an investigation if they thought they had nothing to fear. It would be an opportunity to dunk on Trump voters and show absence of fraud. The fact that they are vehemently against an investigation shows they themselves know they cheated.
This is the key bit. If Biden's supporters and his media apparatchiks are so sure that he won the election, why wouldn't they want an audit and recount?
It wasn't that long ago that the media was cheerleading the whole "if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear" defense of the NSA's mass spying and data collection. I guess that's old hat now and doesn't apply to allegations of election fraud when your guy claims to have won.
This is the key bit. If Biden's supporters and his media apparatchiks are so sure that he won the election, why wouldn't they want an audit and recount?
If they don't, Biden's going to have four months of "your presidency is stolen" (Harris will have to deal it for with the remaining 3 years, eight months)
Biden should be rushing to court to get this addressed and this poisonous stain on his win removed. I suspect he simply can't because if anyone looks at this rush job it's going to fall apart.
Now that lines are being drawn and people are picking sides the "Intellectual Dark Web" is shedding the veneer that they were anything but leftists trying to keep people with right-leaning proclivities on the leftist plantation.
I semi-joke about Imperator Ceasar Donald Trump Augustus, but this sort of thing is how it starts; and people turn real tribal real fast when they think shit is about to go down.
Caesar was exactly what Rome needed. The republic was a failed state at that point precisely because of the same gibmedat bullshit as we're seeing now.
If Trump has half the sac that Julius had, we'll be in for a wild ride.
Jordan Peterson - Canadian Moderate (so, Left of Center in America)
Ben Shapiro - Establishment Religious Conservative.
Dave Rubin - Libertarian
Dave Rubin is about as anti-Establishment right-wing as they go. I don't see them as any sort of 'containment' or anything, but you have to understand what they are. It's like trying to accuse Jimmy Dore or Glenn Greenwald of being 'containment'. No, he's just a leftist.
Rubin I could see aligning with the right; he's already has Eric Weinstein "terrified" over how "far right" he is. Since he's not a degenerate the right would probably look past his being gay.
The lefties on the list talked a good game but ultimately couldn't defect against their side when it counted, even if doing so was better aligned with their stated principles. That distinguishes them from people like Sargon or Tim Pool, who were able to go against their "team" because they recognized it no longer represented their values.
Since he's not a degenerate the right would probably look past his being gay.
Good because moral authoritarianism is a way to guarantee burning every gain that the right has made in the past 4 years.
That distinguishes them from people like Sargon or Tim Pool, who were able to go against their "team" because they recognized it no longer represented their values.
These are still ideologically distinct peoples. There's no question that Sam Harris is going to stand with the Left because he's a globalist. Eric, Bret, and Joe would probably just stand back. Ben would go unwillingly along with Trump, and Dave would probably just be the only actual Trump fan. Their values don't all align.
These people are definitely not who I would want with me If I was in a foxhole.
Oh, lord, no. Obviously. You typically don't want the pundit or intellectual class anywhere near you in a foxhole. Of all the typical pundits you want on your side in a foxhole, your best bet is probably Count Dankula. After that maybe some of the gun channel guys.
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Okay, here's my pundit fire team: Alex Jones, Count Dankula, IraqVeteran8888, Louis LaVaou (I can't spell that french name). I'd say Jocko Willinc, but you don't put that man on your team, he chooses to accompany you out of the kindness of his heart.
I think what he's saying is that the leftist establishment is painting these figures as "far-right extremists" when in fact none of them are either of those things. It's being used as a technique whereby people who want to understand right-wing beliefs will be attracted to these people who in reality hold progressive viewpoints and will thereby believe that the overton window is in fact very far to the left of where it really is.
I understand that, but that's my point. You can't expect anyone on that list, except for basically Dave Rubin, to take a properly right wing position that is outside of where the Overton Window was 30 years ago. Only some people on that list are prepared to take Michael Malice, Tom Woods, Paul Joseph Watson, or Milo Yiannopoulos seriously. Fuck, Eric Weinstein basically tried to fight James O'Keefe to the dismay of his own audience. These people are not built to be 'containment' or anything, but you can't expect them to be anything you might call 'rightists'.
In their defense, they see universal suffrage as a moral good, and they also have a point that depending on what votes are actually being thrown out, genuine votes could be struck.
Like the Sean Parnell lawsuit in PA. There's real chance that hundreds of thousands of mail-in votes could be thrown out. Particularly legitimate ones because the process itself was unconstitutional, based off of the legislature's own incompetence-fraud. Real people, really voting, following the law as it was explained to them, being unable to have their votes counted because the process was wrong.
Worse, it may not be even clear which votes are the ones that should be thrown out. Thanks to the behavior of many of these polling stations, it's now impossible to tell which ones arrived in water coolers in the middle of the night, and which are legitimate. In that case, legitimate votes might have to be thrown out with the illegitimate ones, because there is no way to tell which is which.
One way or another, there probably are going to be legitimate votes thrown out if we throw out the illegitimate ones. That's just going to be the way it is.
The solution to the problems you describe are to have and maintain strict voting standards, not to eliminate those standards. The latter is guaranteed to result in the outcomes we are seeing, which is exactly what the right said would happen while the left was busy eliminating them.
Did any of the Weinsteins support the elimination of these standards? If so, they are complicit in the disenfranchisement of the very voters they claim to want to protect.
Did any of the Weinsteins support the elimination of these standards?
I don't know. I haven't seen them make the argument. I'm just pointing out the logic behind the progressive desire for universal suffrage (which I, myself, already disagree with).
i mean, if the vote was made properly and then they died, i feel like it should still count. someone who votes and dies later on election day would still be counted, wouldn't they?
He seems genuinely mad through many of these. I'm pretty sure some of those cuts were him just going, "What the fuck is this absolute bullshit? These people are fucking retarded."
My favorite video of him is still that hot-mic moment where he's waiting to give an address to the camera, and he tries to read something, realizes somethings completely messed up, and gives a very genuine & exasperated...
This was great. He implicitly threatened the republicucks by brining up down ballot victories. If Brian Kemp and friends don't get the message by his GA rally, he needs to explicitly start burning down the party.
Some of the presidents points are hilarious on their delivery alone.
In Detroit, everybody saw the tremendous conflict, and the horrible way that the two republican canvassers were treated so horribly, because they wouldn't vote when they saw that 71% of the precincts didn't balance. And also, there were more votes than there were voters, think of that. You had more votes... than you had voters, that's an easy one to figure.
This one is definitely my favorite:
Also, in Arizona, the attorney general announced that mail-in balanced had been stolen from mailboxes and hidden under a rock.
I'm sure it's probably some fuckwit, but I really like the idea of some panicky activist desperately trying to bury mail-in ballots on the side of the road.
Anyone else got the gut feeling, they rigged this "win" so blatantly so that not only Biden wins, but if investigated, they impeach Biden as a scapegoat and then install KH as president anyway?
To literally impeach oneself for fraud after installing themselves is game over, because they literally admit to the crime but take the power anyway. That’s instant civil war.
President Trump truly is a fighter unlike the cowardly GOP.
If it was Mitt Romney he would have conceded on election night BEFORE they even did the 4am fraudulent ballot dumps.
This election has proven to be the most egregious levels of fraud imaginable.
Supreme Court and/or state legislators need to show some backbone and do the right thing for once.
We the people deserve a fair and honest election.
The media is just trying to prevent any investigations period. They don't even believe their flimsy argument they are making.
As for Bret and Heather Weinstein, I never trusted them as they ultimately are leftist academics just not of the full woke variety. This was always their true colors.
All Americans should want an investigation. Biden voters would welcome an investigation if they thought they had nothing to fear. It would be an opportunity to dunk on Trump voters and show absence of fraud. The fact that they are vehemently against an investigation shows they themselves know they cheated. They did not win the election. They stole the election.
The fact remains that by NOT investigating vote/election fraud, it disenfranchises everyone who voted in the election. If there were ANY fraudulent ballots counted, it means that an equal number of legitimate ballots were cancelled out. This should not be a partisan issue at all.
All of us, we the people deserve fair and honest elections. Whether you are a Republican, Democrat, Independent, Libertarian, Green Party or a Kanye West voter.
This is the key bit. If Biden's supporters and his media apparatchiks are so sure that he won the election, why wouldn't they want an audit and recount?
It wasn't that long ago that the media was cheerleading the whole "if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear" defense of the NSA's mass spying and data collection. I guess that's old hat now and doesn't apply to allegations of election fraud when your guy claims to have won.
If they don't, Biden's going to have four months of "your presidency is stolen" (Harris will have to deal it for with the remaining 3 years, eight months)
Biden should be rushing to court to get this addressed and this poisonous stain on his win removed. I suspect he simply can't because if anyone looks at this rush job it's going to fall apart.
Now that lines are being drawn and people are picking sides the "Intellectual Dark Web" is shedding the veneer that they were anything but leftists trying to keep people with right-leaning proclivities on the leftist plantation.
I semi-joke about Imperator Ceasar Donald Trump Augustus, but this sort of thing is how it starts; and people turn real tribal real fast when they think shit is about to go down.
Caesar was exactly what Rome needed. The republic was a failed state at that point precisely because of the same gibmedat bullshit as we're seeing now.
If Trump has half the sac that Julius had, we'll be in for a wild ride.
Well, let's be reasonable here:
Dave Rubin is about as anti-Establishment right-wing as they go. I don't see them as any sort of 'containment' or anything, but you have to understand what they are. It's like trying to accuse Jimmy Dore or Glenn Greenwald of being 'containment'. No, he's just a leftist.
Rubin I could see aligning with the right; he's already has Eric Weinstein "terrified" over how "far right" he is. Since he's not a degenerate the right would probably look past his being gay.
The lefties on the list talked a good game but ultimately couldn't defect against their side when it counted, even if doing so was better aligned with their stated principles. That distinguishes them from people like Sargon or Tim Pool, who were able to go against their "team" because they recognized it no longer represented their values.
Good because moral authoritarianism is a way to guarantee burning every gain that the right has made in the past 4 years.
These are still ideologically distinct peoples. There's no question that Sam Harris is going to stand with the Left because he's a globalist. Eric, Bret, and Joe would probably just stand back. Ben would go unwillingly along with Trump, and Dave would probably just be the only actual Trump fan. Their values don't all align.
Well for the record, I personally don't really like or trust any of the figures you listed for a multitude of reasons.
These people are merely against sjwism. They are generally not against the terrible leftist or neocon policies that I am against.
As someone who is a America first populist, some of these people are only good to convert some squishy normies from sjwism.
These people are definitely not who I would want with me If I was in a foxhole.
After being in academia for years, I can see grifters pretty easily.
Brett Weinstein, Eric Weinstein, Sam Harris and Ben Shapiro are the ones that I truly despise.
Oh, lord, no. Obviously. You typically don't want the pundit or intellectual class anywhere near you in a foxhole. Of all the typical pundits you want on your side in a foxhole, your best bet is probably Count Dankula. After that maybe some of the gun channel guys.
...
Okay, here's my pundit fire team: Alex Jones, Count Dankula, IraqVeteran8888, Louis LaVaou (I can't spell that french name). I'd say Jocko Willinc, but you don't put that man on your team, he chooses to accompany you out of the kindness of his heart.
I don't think that's what he's saying.
I think what he's saying is that the leftist establishment is painting these figures as "far-right extremists" when in fact none of them are either of those things. It's being used as a technique whereby people who want to understand right-wing beliefs will be attracted to these people who in reality hold progressive viewpoints and will thereby believe that the overton window is in fact very far to the left of where it really is.
I understand that, but that's my point. You can't expect anyone on that list, except for basically Dave Rubin, to take a properly right wing position that is outside of where the Overton Window was 30 years ago. Only some people on that list are prepared to take Michael Malice, Tom Woods, Paul Joseph Watson, or Milo Yiannopoulos seriously. Fuck, Eric Weinstein basically tried to fight James O'Keefe to the dismay of his own audience. These people are not built to be 'containment' or anything, but you can't expect them to be anything you might call 'rightists'.
In their defense, they see universal suffrage as a moral good, and they also have a point that depending on what votes are actually being thrown out, genuine votes could be struck.
Like the Sean Parnell lawsuit in PA. There's real chance that hundreds of thousands of mail-in votes could be thrown out. Particularly legitimate ones because the process itself was unconstitutional, based off of the legislature's own incompetence-fraud. Real people, really voting, following the law as it was explained to them, being unable to have their votes counted because the process was wrong.
Worse, it may not be even clear which votes are the ones that should be thrown out. Thanks to the behavior of many of these polling stations, it's now impossible to tell which ones arrived in water coolers in the middle of the night, and which are legitimate. In that case, legitimate votes might have to be thrown out with the illegitimate ones, because there is no way to tell which is which.
One way or another, there probably are going to be legitimate votes thrown out if we throw out the illegitimate ones. That's just going to be the way it is.
The solution to the problems you describe are to have and maintain strict voting standards, not to eliminate those standards. The latter is guaranteed to result in the outcomes we are seeing, which is exactly what the right said would happen while the left was busy eliminating them.
Did any of the Weinsteins support the elimination of these standards? If so, they are complicit in the disenfranchisement of the very voters they claim to want to protect.
I don't disagree.
I don't know. I haven't seen them make the argument. I'm just pointing out the logic behind the progressive desire for universal suffrage (which I, myself, already disagree with).
If the overall vote is tainted by illegal votes, then you toss all the votes and hold a special election. Any other course disenfranchises someone.
Honestly, I'd rather the legislature vote. I'd argue that's a pretty significant political consequence to their voters.
i mean, if the vote was made properly and then they died, i feel like it should still count. someone who votes and dies later on election day would still be counted, wouldn't they?
He seems genuinely mad through many of these. I'm pretty sure some of those cuts were him just going, "What the fuck is this absolute bullshit? These people are fucking retarded."
My favorite video of him is still that hot-mic moment where he's waiting to give an address to the camera, and he tries to read something, realizes somethings completely messed up, and gives a very genuine & exasperated...
This was great. He implicitly threatened the republicucks by brining up down ballot victories. If Brian Kemp and friends don't get the message by his GA rally, he needs to explicitly start burning down the party.
I'm posting this because it's probably one of the most significant speeches of this decade, and it isn't going to be on Television.
When they said the revolution would not be televised, I never imagined it would apply to the President of the United States.
In fairness the revolution hasn't occurred yet, and if Trump does in fact cross the Rubicon it is guaranteed to be televised.
Nobody did.
Some of the presidents points are hilarious on their delivery alone.
This one is definitely my favorite:
I'm sure it's probably some fuckwit, but I really like the idea of some panicky activist desperately trying to bury mail-in ballots on the side of the road.
- Imperator Ceasar Donald Trump Augustus, December 2020
Anyone else got the gut feeling, they rigged this "win" so blatantly so that not only Biden wins, but if investigated, they impeach Biden as a scapegoat and then install KH as president anyway?
doubt they would risk the bad optics. they intend to keep this cheating going indefinitely, so why risk it?
Because they could blame it on Biden. "its not the party, it was that one bad president, Like Tricky Dick!"
They'd need to for KM first like they did Agnew back in the 70's.
I think it was more of a Fantasia situation. The rigger's apprentice summoned more ballots, but this many was unintentional.
To literally impeach oneself for fraud after installing themselves is game over, because they literally admit to the crime but take the power anyway. That’s instant civil war.
Anyone got a transcript?
Here you go
I'll try to find one, poke me later.