I think there will be more riots than over George Floyd and media will get even crazier. If he does take it to the court I hope he has proof. Most sane people can see something fishy was going on but hopefully his team has evidence
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I don't think the SCOTUS would rule in his favor without evidence. That won't mean anything to the braindead "Russia Russia Russia!" folks, as they've heartily proven. However, it will be the greatest happening of our time, and Trump will be the legitimate commander in chief.
Never underestimate Thomas's chance to pen the greatest fuck you to Joe Biden 30 years in the making...
That being said the path to victory is to keep the battles going in the courts until the middle of December at which point there can't be electors appointed for several states and it goes to congressional delegations. GOP will have to be pressured not to cuck out, but by the Constitution they can elect him President.
However if that happens the Rubicon is crossed and this is going brother against brother, neighbor against neighbor and is going to get ugly fast.
Thomas is a fair and principled jurist. He's not going to treat Biden any differently from Trump, regardless of how Biden treated him in the past.
I don't think that's how it works. The whole reason Bush vs. Gore ordered a permanent stop to the recounts is because the judges said that there would not be enough time for a recount before the deadline. Whatever happens is not going to extend past the deadline, so Trump and his lawyers have to make something happen soon.
In theory, if a state weren't able to appoint electors before the deadline, it would potentially create a situation where neither candidate is at 270, though, correct? I agree it's highly unlikely, but it is 2020.
That's the best-case scenario at this point, though I think some GOP'ers (e.g. Cheney) will end up voting Biden because they claim he won the election.
Yeah, which would effectively end the GOP. Neocons have always been the tail wagging the dog, and Trump was a repudiation of that.
deadline is 14 December for this. not sure if is the same for all states.
Same for all states.
The state legislature can appoint any electors they want. It would very likely cause a real civil war, but they could do it if the courts don't act and there's enough proof of fraud.
I tried looking this up a few days ago, and found a radical left-source that still made a valid argument that if they have already provided for a way to assign electors, they cannot turn around and then change who the electors are without the governor signing the bill.
But it may be decided by the SCOTUS. Still, the PA GOP has said it will not do that.
What does "without evidence" mean to you?
Regardless of what happens in the end, there will be massive Soros/other Globalist filth funded riots in blue shithole cities.
The left wants President Trump to concede an election that was stolen from him via fraud for the sake of some bullshit unity cuckery.
He will thankfully never do that.
If he ends up winning in the end, the left will try to secede and they will get hit by the full power of the Insurrection Act.
The whole country is about to experience massive chaos because Democrats stole the presidency and their insolence to make Trump roll over and just take it.
What happens as a result of Trump fighting the steal is all on the Democrats for stealing it in the first place.
I am very glad that President Trump is a fighter and not a spineless coward like Mitt Romney.
My thoughts exactly. Well said.
There will be paid riots.
There will be an attempted coup and/or revolution.
They already had a revolution with all the election fraud.
Will be?
"Always has been."
4+ years of "Trump stole the election"
So business as usual? I wonder if they’ll shake the dust off the old Russia chestnut.
As unlikely as it is for Trump to win by judicial means (no, seriously, the best SC can do is order a hasty re-election and i doubt Trump and Co can provide enough evidence for that), it would probably be best outcome. The worst outcome, ironically, is also Trump winning, but by flipping the table. Dems getting away with fraud, or winning in 'fair' election would be somewhere inbetween.
What can happen is that there are enough cases going through the courts to where electors can't be appointed by the middle of December and the election goes to congressional delegates. It's legal, it's constitutional, but yeah shit will hit the fan.
The SCOTUS does not have the authority to order a re-election. I guess the state legislatures could, but that is not going to happen in PA as the governor is a Democrat.
That's better yet, even, because without re-election you are not exactly recovering those basketcase cities.
The state legislatures in almost all of these key states are Republican controlled.
The state legislature cannot unilaterally assign new electors - only if the governor agrees.
What are you talking about? They'll just throw out X number of votes and force recounts.
No one's going to do a re-election.
North Carolina re-did an election not that long ago after fraud was uncovered. It's unlikely, but it can happen.
For the whole state? For millions of voters? I don't remember hearing about this.
It was a smaller election (comparatively speaking) but it was federal.
MIdterms?
Which is what they shall do, but i dare claim with certainty that they aren't going to throw enough votes out for it to actually change things.
P. S. I have a habit of being wrong, so consider above a blessing.
I don't think they have a choice in that matter. The counts will just get stopped, and then have to be gone through. There's going to be an absolute ton to throw out, it's why they keep adding votes as much as possible.
The only real solution for Biden is to delay the re-counts until the electors have to vote (mostly by legal tactics or by finding votes literally forever). Then hope that he can win a bunch of electors, or even gain some free electors.
So i presume, you are confident that Republicans won't use the nuclear option?
I don't even know what the 'nuclear' option would be. But considering you've got 'conservative' outlets and pundits simply going along and encouraging Trump not to object; along with Fox News itself participating in this ridiculous charade, I highly doubt it.
All that being said, the Judges removing votes would be pretty typical practice.
Mass riots
Pfff... riots? Insurrection Act will take care of them. The issue is that Trump is not going to end up winning anything meaningful, other than something to make it appear that everything was fair and dandy.
Honestly, I think the corporatists would make a deal with him to institute a digital currency with some modifications that he'd approve of.
The Globalists are absolutely retarded. Think about what the Middle East did, and what the Gun Control advocates did. Both of them cozy'd up to Trump, placated his ego, and he gave Saudi Arabia weapons for their war in Yeman (along with assassinating an Iranian military chief and ignoring their murder of a journalist), and he banned bump-stocks by executive fiat upon request.
The Globalists could get most of what they want from Trump with hookers & blow. They just don't want anyone to share in their gains. Make no mistake, the Global Elite aren't going to jail, and they aren't about to lose anything. They just don't want to lose any of the potential gains they thought they had in the bag.
They don't want to share with Trump, and Trump's a fucking new-money cunt they don't respect, so they throw their toys out, kill hundreds of thousands of people across the world, push the west into tyranny and chaos, and nearly cause the next great depression because they're stupid and greedy.
If Trump wins, I still think some of the oligarchs with a god damned brain will make a deal with Trump and they'll both profit from it greatly. They just don't want to share and Trump is basically forcing them to make him an offer. These people have NEVER been confronted by anyone who told them to compromise. It's just never happened and they're throwing a hissy fit that you get to die for. Eventually, one of them will grow the fuck up.
Mass hysteria.
Doubt it will get there, but if it does?
Civil war. DNC rounded up and shot.
There's really no other possibility at that point.
War.
They were saying he stole the election along with a bullshit investigation last time aswell. Aside from continued rioting, it's the same crap.
Gulag or civil war, take your pick.
Riots would enflame in greater quantities than before. Among them would be Portland and Seattle (though I guess they technically never ended in either of them), but you would also expect them to spark in Washington DC, New York City, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Minneapolis, and likely other places too. The media would fan the flames of course and declare Trump a tyrant and a fascist who did indeed refused to concede defeat like they said he would, and has seized power, as well as for all the leftists and RINOs in Congress to scream and call foul and demand justice, maybe even call for another impeachment.
Honestly, it's for all these reasons why the Supreme Court will NOT step in and determine anything. Those that have any say will not allow the investigations into voter fraud to go that far; even if they know everything Trump says is true and that the election has been stolen, they would still screw him over if only because they fear the pandemonium that would ensue. Hell, even if it did get that far, the Court itself might feel pressured to rule against Trump for those reasons.
I get what you are saying. Doesn’t seem right but I think that will happen.
I might get to shoot some antifa types, but I doubt it. Even though my county went blue, the VAST majority of people not stuck in Demonrat shitholes will be fine.