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NYT: "After Terror Attacks, Muslims Wonder About Their Place in France" (archive.is)
posted 5 years ago by AntonioOfVenice 5 years ago by AntonioOfVenice +57 / -0
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– TentElephant 52 points 5 years ago +52 / -0

But we just don’t know what is expected of us.

Act like a Frenchman. Show concern for France instead of Islam.

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– BulbasaurusThe7th 58 points 5 years ago +58 / -0

Don't murder people maybe? Don't rape maybe? Don't think of a child raping, murdering warlord as the perfect human?Don't marry underage children (often even related by blood)? Don't attack people (often physically, "just" verbally by yelling and cursing at best) for things that have been normal in the developed world for a long time, like walking dogs, wearing summer-appropriate clothing, etc.?
Behaving like an actual human being instead of an uncultured, violent, dumb animal. Maybe.

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– w-duranty6489 25 points 5 years ago +25 / -0

Man I wish I could go around beheading people after seeing a picture.

Plus you can literally outlaw offensive fucking and throw the degenerates off roofs, and force thot wombyn to cover themselves up for liberty and feminism. And every single religious de-conversion makes the entire community freak the fuck out. Also conquer bits of Syria for fun.

And not a single leftist will bitch about it.

Islam, what an absolute chad religion.

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– TentElephant 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

Reported for hate speech

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– APDSmith 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

Hate speech or hate facts?

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– ghostfox1_ 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

Hate facts is my favorite term

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– ButterBadger 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

Thoughts on rebranding hate speech as truth speech?

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– acp_k2win 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

cringe, but my goto cringe reply to "hate speech" is "the truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth"

so run with it and see what happens?

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– ButterBadger 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Maybe. I know the branding needs refinement if it's gonna catch on and the idea take root.

Best I've been able to come up with is "hate speech is just speech you hate", but that doesn't feel like it'll take hold for any of these smooth brains.

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– deleted 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0
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– BulbasaurusThe7th 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

But I love speech. D:

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Don't rape maybe?

You really want to infringe on people's religious freedom to follow their prophet, peace be upon him?

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– ButterBadger 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

They aren't Frenchmen.

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– AntonioOfVenice [S] 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

And they never will be.

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– deleted 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0
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– Steampunk_Moustache 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

Indeed they don't.

There are muslim countries, and then there are countries with muslims in them. Muslim countries can be peaceful (provided one sect of Islam is utterly dominant within them). Countries with muslims in them are subject to violence.

I'm really not surprised in the slightest that China, Myanmar, India and Israel are all doing their damnedest to push Islam out of their countries.

What non-muslim in his right mind would ever want Islam within their borders?

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– ButterBadger 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

So what are they still doing in France?

There's a very simple and effective course of action here.

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– w-duranty6489 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

Muh religion causes me to overthrow your degenerate secularism and replace it with my own, superior religious theocracy.

I'm not a Christian white, nor a Muslim brown opposing Chinese communism, so it's perfectly fine.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

How about you don't murder people over cartoons. How about you don't act like anyone who speaks ill of your prophet must die. How about you act like you live in the west, instead of like you live in a medievalist superstitious shithole?

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– VerGreeneyes 33 points 5 years ago +33 / -0

If you're feeling disenfranchised because the French aren't supportive of terrorists who share your religion, then maybe it's time to leave. If you're starting to feel that your religion is just fundamentally incompatible with French society, maybe it's time to leave.

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– APDSmith 29 points 5 years ago +29 / -0

has Muslims questioning whether they will ever fully be accepted

Well, some sign that the French Muslim community will not tolerate things like beheading for blasphemy, because they've realised that Paris isn't bloody Jeddah, would go a long way towards that, no?

But instead we see, per the NYT caption:

Far from assimilating, young Muslims are increasingly embracing their religious identity and rejecting France’s secular, republican values.

It appears the French Muslim community only has an interest in turning France into a Muslim country.

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– w-duranty6489 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

Far from assimilating, young Muslims are increasingly embracing their religious identity and rejecting France’s secular, republican values.

Nationalism is evil, diversity is our strength.

t. leftist

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– ramzaruglia 28 points 5 years ago +28 / -0

Muslims have no place in the free world, period.

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– Lurker404 28 points 5 years ago +28 / -0

You'd hope the French are wondering the same.

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– NeoTokyo 22 points 5 years ago +22 / -0

Frenchman shows a picture of Muhammad.

Gets decapitated by Muslim.

French people protest for their right to free expression.

Muslims counter protest by killing more French people.

NYT paints Muslims as the victim.

Yeah sounds about 2020

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– deleted 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0
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– coke501 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

Dear Muslim,

if you think that violence against the people massacred by you brothers in faith was even the tyniest bit justified, stop wondering. You have no place in the civilized world. Your view of the world is fundamentally incompatible with france, germany, america, japan, sweden, england [...] brazil, argentinia etc.

But keep going. Accuse the very people that think beheading or shooting or mutliating someone for making an image of your so called prophet of racism and islamophobia, keep fueling the hate you so very much crave, and maybe one day you will get the comeuppance you deserve for valuing the life of a murderous degenerate brother in faith more than the life of a truely virtuous person that still cared for you despite all evidence they shouldn't ever have.

With every atrocity you commit, with every murder, every rape, the empathy for you, dear innocent muslim that thinks these murders, atrocities and rapes are justified by your holy book, gets thinner.

I can't tell what comes first. The subjugation of the western world by your insane dogma, the realization that you have to adapt the rules of your enemies, horribly as they may seem or the realization that the path you are willing to follow will lead to unthought blodshed throughout our whole planet.

I hope for the latter, but I fear for one of the former.

with kind regards,

every sane person in the western world.

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– 666sadfrogs 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

Everyone should wonder about Islam’s place in polite society.

If your religion or ideology cannot stand up to scrutiny or put up with criticism no matter how negative, maybe you need to reconsider the value of your belief system.

Islam in it’s current form is incompatible with Western values. It probably cannot be made compatible. Islam supports killing non-believers and blasphemers. “Radical” Islam is just Islam

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– OhhSweaty 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

They have no place in France. They'll never be French (not that they really want to be). Ideally they would return to where they came from, but we know that will never happen, and France will never kick them out, so things will only get worse. The end.

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– StoicVampirePig 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

I hope the ones in England start wondering the same...and then go.

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– deleted 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0
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– Throwawaycuzmeh 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

These leftist and Muslim articles are trying to divert blame from the terrorists, and it's working - because now I blame leftists and Muslims.

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– deleted 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0
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– censorthisss 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

But many Muslims, from shoppers at the open-air market of Ivry-sur-Seine to the president of the French Council of the Muslim Faith, have stated their unease with the cartoons, arguing that there should be limits to offense when it comes to religious beliefs.

A poll published in early September indicated that whereas 59 percent of French people supported the publishing of the caricatures in the name of freedom of speech, only 19 percent of Muslims agreed.

Deport kebab

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– censorthisss 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Also the NYT: All white people are racist and America is evil

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– realerfunction 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

not in europe

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– deleted 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0
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– deleted 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

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