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Co-ed education. Co-ed gyms. Co-ed sports. Co-ed boys/girls clubs. All bad ideas. We need more male-only and female-only institutions. Unfortunately, it looks like that is unlikely. Our culture has jumped off a cliff and we're hurtling towards the bottom.
Maybe, maybe not. We’re not really in a position to say since we don’t know the figures he gets on add reads or other advertising. Either way, details like this are why this wasn’t a contract but a boiler plate terms sheet meant to start negotiate.
EDIT: Either way, this minor point is beside the fact that Crowder misrepresented DW’s position and edited both his videos to show himself in the most favorable light possible despite the facts portraying a very different picture. None of the claims he makes stands up to scrutiny. The biggest legit criticism of DW is that they should have given him more favorable terms up front given his size and ego. This hardly warrants Crowders behavior.
I’ve researched this to death. The best take on the internet is that given by Actual Justice Warrior (both videos). He’s fair, objective and thorough.
In the Soviet Union, innocent people would make excuses for the government as they were be taken away in chains to be tortured, starved or executed in the Gulags, saying things like "it's just a mistake, if Stalin knew I was innocent this wouldn't be happening".
Some people simply do not have the capacity to understand the truth and will live in denial their entire lives just so they can continue to live in their delusion.
Crowder positioned this very smartly so that most people — who don’t know anything about business contracts — would instinctively side with Crowder. This is extremely diabolical, if truly intentional on Crowder’s part.
The entire conversation happened because you couldn't accept a basic definition for it, and kept needing other ones like " tribal substitute for informed judgement" to make it jive with whatever problem you had with it is.
That doesn’t make sense.That’s not a definition.
I mean, you started it my guy.
Your “cut down and isolated” comment was before this.
And when you preach it, you are taking responsibility for others who listen to you.
This is wrong. Everyone is responsible for their own decisions. I don’t want to open this can of worms though.
You can think this is because of your superiority. I can think this is because you are so little of a threat to anyone that the powers that be don't even care about your existence yet, as there are bigger fish to fry.
There you go again, making claims about me when you don’t even know me.
I’ve made my point. I’m out. Have a good night.
If you penalize your own employees for being censored by Big Tech, you are punishing them, harming them, and kowtowing to Big Tech.
Except there’s no evidence of this happening.
If DW and Crowder both lose revenue due to YouTube censorship, how is this “punishment”? All the terms say is that a percentage of Crowder’s “salary” is based on social media revenue. This is extremely common in these types of contracts. There are entire industries where compensation is split between guaranteed salary and performance based compensation.
Crowder isn’t an idiot. He knows all this. He’s built his livelihood on YouTube. Crowder self-censors to remain on YouTube. He knows exactly what DW was proposing; that’s the entire crux of his statement that DW should change their business model.
I made no prescriptive judgement of it being good or moral. I said it was basic. As in, it didn't need you to redefine it multiple times to describe what it was.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. I never redefined it because I never defined it in the first place, you did. I just said it seems like a substitute for higher values.
That's a really huffing your own farts way of saying "some of you may die, but its a sacrifice I'm willing to make." I guess when you consider yourself so smart and full of aged wisdom, the suffering and misery of others means nothing to you. As long as you get to look back and say "I never compromised!" the infinite graves are all justified.
You’re being over-dramatic.
You claimed my pursuit of higher values would cause me and people like me to get cut down and isolated, and also the Left likes us to do this because it makes us weak. I’m just pointing out that this hasn’t been true so far and isn’t likely to change anytime soon. Literally nothing you’re saying about my position matches reality.
Maybe you’ll be proven right at some point, but I’m not optimistic about your chances.
Searching his home isn’t the same as a raid. Did the search require a warrant? Did they have people with guns stopping traffic in and out of his home?
Did I miss something and this was actually a raid, or did they just search his home with his permission?
Sure, we can add more and more words to make you sound smarter by adding more and more complexity to one of the most basic human concepts and instincts.
This is an appeal to nature; something being natural doesn’t make it good or moral.
While you are encouraging everyone to live in a purity spiral of aiming for perfection and creating a perfect world, you are being cut down and rendered powerless by people who are under no such restriction and are under no care for your morals or preserving them.
And they love you trying to uphold all those values, while downplaying loyalty and other "imperfect" traits of morality. Makes it incredibly easy to isolate people out and remove them entirely, while also making you hilariously easy to manipulate to their whims and needs until you yourself are isolated out and lobotomized.
Me and people like me predicted all of this — what is happening in the West — at least 30 years ago, and have been warning everyone about it to the best of our ability this entire time. We’ve remained unflinching in our conviction and unwavering in the face of the cultural conquest. Sure, some people have fallen away, seduced by Leftist culture or other ideologies, but the core remains strong, primarily because our values are based on something eternal and universal and not tribalistic or worldly.
You make some predictions but nothing you’ve said has been born out so far, and I don’t expect that to change. I expect we’ll be the last ones standing at the end to pick up the pieces just like we always are.
I don’t see how anyone can do their research and not think Crowder is clearly in the wrong.
There’s zero evidence on Crowder’s side for his two big claims: 1) DW is cow-towing to big tech, and 2) DW is harming up-and-coming creators. No evidence. Zero. Please, someone show me the evidence, because I’ve thoroughly researched this topic and I haven’t found any whatsoever.
On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence to contradict these claims. DW employee testimonies. Testimonies of people who’ve worked with DW and Crowder. Testimonies of people who’ve work in the industry. Testimonies of people familiar with multi-million dollar contracts. It’s all there.
The people who are standing behind Crowder all seem to be smaller independent creators who’ve never seen a contract like this in their lives or those who have a bone to pick with DW.
Even if Crowder was correct about DW and “Big Con”, his behavior has been unprofessional and childish. At very least everyone on both sides seems to agree the recording of his friend without his knowledge was a bad move.
I cannot find a way Crowder comes out of this looking good.
The trick is to find something that depreciates in value quickly.
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Give 5% to charity.
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Lose 5% gambling.
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Buy out several car dealerships.
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Crash all the cars, totaling them.
Alternatively, if destroying the cars is against the rules, you could just invest in a shady crypto currency or NFT project like CryptoZoo. It's a safe bet it would be exposed as a fraud and go bankrupt within the next 30 days. Where's SBF when you need him. ;)
EDIT: That makes me think, would just putting your money in a unsecured safe on the sidewalk in front of your house be allowed? It's almost a guarantee it would be stolen, but technically you wouldn't be giving it away.
Boering outright said he expected to ultimately end up paying double. You're a piece of utter dogshit if you lowball someone by 50%. The ONLY reason to do that is because you hate the person's guts and you want them to not even waste time with a counter-offer, or you are banking on them feeling like such an asshole asking for 250% (in order to 'meet in the middle') that they'll lowball themselves and you end up making bank.
Boering is a piece of shit for doing that and I'm fucking thrilled his garbage company is being trashed. He deserves it. The fact that they didn't even fire Candace Owens for her behavior on Timcast means that this is who they really are.
That's fine if that's your interpretation, but you're not exactly a trustworthy source on big contract negotiations, and you're not someone personally close to Crowder or Boering, so you're just reading into your own personal feelings on the matter. Personal feelings, I might add, that contradict the statements of many people around Boering.
I'm curious though, why is everyone here talking about how insulting the low dollar amount was as if that was the core issue, when Crowder himself said it wasn't about the money?
lmao oh fuck off. There's SO MANY fucking stores about NotGayJared that it's obvious they're all 100% fucking made-up nonsense. This is the new, latest story? What about the one where his mother was dying and Crowder refused to let him see her? Or the story about how he wasn't allowed to even see his kid when he was born? Or the story about how Crowder stole all his money? Give it a fucking break.
I've only ever heard one story, and that was that NotGayJared quit LWC on his own (which Jared confirmed himself) and that he wasn't allowed to talk about it (which everyone agrees is most likely due to an NDA).
Again, we don't know what really happened but this is just one part of a pattern of behavior.
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Sven Computer disappeared overnight and nobody was allowed to talk about it to this day (once again implying an NDA).
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Owen Benjamin has been calling out Crowder's mistreatment of employees for years and also claims he himself was censored by Crowder when he wanted to talk about Israel's involvement in the trans movement.
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Lauren Chen who collaborated with Crowder confirmed he is high strung, difficult to work with and takes business matters personally.
None of this is surprising to me as I've observed him over the years and none of it is to condemn Crowder as a bad person -- everyone has flaws -- but I also don't automatically jump to his defense when things like this happen.
If none of this matters to you, fine, but don't expect everyone to be as convinced of Crowder's integrity as you are.
You hate loyalty because you've been on the losing end,
Not true. You don't know me. Also, I didn't say I hate loyalty.
The entire point of it is to keep external forces on the losing end to protect someone who has done right by you enough to have earned your loyalty.
So it's a tribal substitute for informed judgement. That fits more or less with what I said.
A good person doesn't need loyalty to do this because they believe everyone who hasn't done anything to explicitly lose their trust has the right to the benefit of the doubt.
Sure in a perfect world where everything is exactly perfectly utopian its unnecessary, but this isn't that world and never will be.
I disagree. In my experience it's in the imperfect world where grace shines the brightest. I know many people's whose lives are a testimony to that end. You may think me naive but I encourage everyone to resist the pull of tribalism and seek higher values.
What would have happened if he signed the 'terms sheet'?
As far as I know, based on what I've heard, absolutely nothing. It's not legally binding.
Is that why Crowder counter-offered them, and they then slammed the door in his face and said "nope we're done, don't even bother talking to us again"?
They didn't even attempt a second offer. Their ONLY offer that they accepted was the dogshit rookie garbage they put in front of him.
From Boering's perspective, Crowder rejected the offer, acted insulted, and demanded they send him a completely new terms sheet with a significantly larger dollar figure (despite him saying it has nothing to do with money, if you really believe that) without red-lining the previous terms or even just talking to Boering about it reasonably. Instead he told Boering, the CEO of a much larger and more successful company, that DW's business model was garbage. It's at this point that DW threw up his hands and they parted ways.
By the way, you can listen to Boering's perspective at timestamp 44:10 of Boering's response video.
You can choose to trust Crowder or you can choose to trust Boering, but either way we don't really know what really went down between the two of them. What we do know are the actions both have taken publicly and what those associated with Crowder and Daily Wire are saying, and all the evidence in this case points to Crowder being in the wrong here, if for no other reason than airing his dirty laundry and breaking the trust of people he supposedly was friends with. This is true EVEN IF Boering's actions were insulting and underhanded. Crowder handled it poorly either way.
I keep telling people, Crowder is not the bastion of integrity people think he is.
You’re reading way too much context into what I said. I didn’t say anything about lynch mobs, crimes, or giving people the benefit of the doubt.
It seems to me that loyalty may be a substitute for higher values that would make loyalty unnecessary.
You shouldn’t let anyone be killed by an angry lynch mob. You shouldn’t toss away anyone the moment an accusation happens. You should extend the benefit of doubt to anyone who hasn’t done something to explicit make you distrust them. Everyone should be granted some degree of grace as they try to make their way through this crazy world.
These are values that should be upheld regardless of who the person is, friend or stranger, so loyalty in this context just seems like a substitute for people unwilling or unable to do these things for people who they aren’t personally invested in.
Loyalty makes sense in the context where morality isn’t clearly involved, such as loyalty to a sports team or to a country or even to an ideology, but in moral matters it’s insufficient and can even be problematic.
Oh, fuck off with that bullshit. This was a contract offer in everything but name.
Except it wasn’t, it was a terms sheet. A real contract would have to be written up before anything could be signed and legally binding.
You can ask anyone who has been in large multi-million contract negotiations before and they will explain that negotiations begins with a terms sheet, usually at one extreme or another, and end up somewhere in the middle. I’m not saying this is right or wrong, only that it’s normal at this level of business.
If Crowder had said "Yes", they wouldn't have turned around and told him "No, no, no! You're our friend! We wouldn't make you sign something like this!" They'd have copied it all verbatim in contract form and been proud of it. And the deal was insultingly bad. From a youtube comment:
Nobody in their right mind would accept a contract without reading it, so that was never a possibility.
Brett Cooper signed a contract with DW while she was still an unknown, and when her content exploded and became very successful, they came to her and volunteered to renegotiate her contract, something that only worked in her favor and they had no obligation to do.
It makes no financial sense for DW to abuse their creators, and there’s zero evidence they’ve ever exploited or tricked their employees. Crowder on the other hand…
Beyond his underhandedness in this situation, Crowder has used contract law (NDA) to silence NotGayJared and allegedly got him fired from another job after he left Crowder. He did something to Sven Computer (allegedly refusing to pay him due wages) who remains silent most likely due to threat of NDA. He threatened to sue a fan Twitter account for Hopper the dog when they wouldn’t turn it over to him. People who have worked with him say he’s high strung, demanding, takes everything personally, holds grudges and is overall not a good person to work for. Owen Benjamin has been calling Crowder out for years for his mistreatment of employees.
I don’t care if you hate the Daily Wire or not, Crowder is clearly in the wrong here and is airing his dirty laundry to his own benefit. He’s not the hero people think he is.
EDIT: It totally skipped my mind, but Owen Benjamin actually said Crowder silenced him from talking about how all the trans kids hormones came from a single large company in Israel.
You can love or hate Owen Benjamin, think he’s crazy or whatever, but just understand that there is a track record of accusations against Crowder for the same things Daily Wire is being accused of.
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