which were in fact screenshots from a rap video that she's in which has been up on YT for over 6 years. She's also been blocking anyone asking questions related to her trafficking claims. She also threatened to take "legal action" over public screenshots lmao.
As if a fake DMCA claim isn't low enough, we now have fake revenge porn claims, huh?
If she isn't lying I fail to see how being a model and in a provocative video that you haven't bother to take down, which means it's not from when you were trafficked, somehow negates you having been trafficked.
Why block someone? Just say "voluntarily modeling isn't the same as being trafficked" and move on.
I know some people don't like TheQuartering's content and, say what you want about the guy, but he seems loyal as fuck. I don't know much about StarWarsGirl, but same for her. They're always sticking up for their buds, and I respect that a lot.
He seems like a decent enough guy if you met him in person but he greatly exaggerates things, manufactures drama and abuses click-bait tactics, which is unfortunately very common among right-wing content creators.
Personally, I don't understand people who value loyalty. I hate betrayal and backstabbing, but I also don't like it when people give preferential treatment to their friends or family regardless of the facts of the situation. Sticking up for your friends when they're in the wrong doesn't seem commendable to me.
Walk with integrity. Uphold your obligations. Judge without bias. Treat everyone properly in accordance with their behavior. Be kind. Be fair. Be honest. This seems like the proper way.
It is, though, but it depends on what you value. Loyalty/supporting one's friends/family is more important than any other principles/values, but it's also context-dependent.
It’s difficult for me to wrap my head around this perspective.
Your values must be very poor if you’ll willingly compromise them for friends or family.
As a Christian, Jesus Christ takes precedence over everything. This means placing the truth and righteousness above everything. This obedience to Christ and prioritization of things greater than you or your family bears fruit in countless blessing for Christians, including having strong families, but this only possible if you correctly identify the “Most Important Thing” and pursue it above all else.
To live your life with no higher values or motivation beyond the needs and desires of your family sounds depressing and pointless beyond the perpetuation if your genes to the next generation. It’s just another flavor of materialism.
It is, though, but it depends on what you value. Loyalty/supporting one's friends/family is more important than any other principles/values, but it's also context-dependent.
That's a good point. It's also about acceptable degrees. Your friend rapes or murders someone? Fuck that guy, off to jail with you. He does something more minor but still immoral, like steal? Yeah, I'll probably try not to involve the law, and help him make it right or something, while keeping him out of trouble...even though he did wrong.
Personally, I don't understand people who value loyalty. I hate betrayal and backstabbing, but I also don't like it when people give preferential treatment to their friends or family regardless of the facts of the situation. Sticking up for your friends when they're in the wrong doesn't seem commendable to me.
I don't follow them too closely, but I haven't seen them sticking up for people in the wrong - although I do know what you're talking about, and have certainly seen others do this - and I was more talking about they always have their friends' backs when they get targeted and censored for bullshit reasons.
I'm not saying loyalty over all, I'm saying these guys stick up for their friends when they're abused, and that's absolutely commendable.
Yes, if you put it that way I would certainly agree.
It’s important to protect and support your friends and family, but if a friend or family member does something wrong, it’s important to correct them and help them understand their error because that’s only way they will grow or improve.
What I don’t approve of is defending a friend or family member unconditionally even if they did something wrong or unconditionally running to someone’s defense irregardless of the truth just because they supported you in the past. You should never harm someone unjustly to help a friend or family member.
Loyalty to your friends and family means protecting them from a lynch mob, and then making sure they repent for their crimes properly once that is done. Only one part of that is seen to the public, which is why you have some warped idea of how it works.
If a person has earned my loyalty, they have done enough good by me to not be instantly tossed away like garbage the moment an accusation happens. And they have done enough to earn my defense from an angry bunch of idiots trying to attack them, regardless of what they have committed.
Everyone deserves to have someone in their corner. And if their current action is irrelevant to whatever prior action earned my loyalty, then I won't discard it entirely once it comes to light. No sin is so great that the punishment is "every single thing you've ever done is now erased, and you are damned to solitary confinement until death."
You’re reading way too much context into what I said. I didn’t say anything about lynch mobs, crimes, or giving people the benefit of the doubt.
It seems to me that loyalty may be a substitute for higher values that would make loyalty unnecessary.
You shouldn’t let anyone be killed by an angry lynch mob. You shouldn’t toss away anyone the moment an accusation happens. You should extend the benefit of doubt to anyone who hasn’t done something to explicit make you distrust them. Everyone should be granted some degree of grace as they try to make their way through this crazy world.
These are values that should be upheld regardless of who the person is, friend or stranger, so loyalty in this context just seems like a substitute for people unwilling or unable to do these things for people who they aren’t personally invested in.
Loyalty makes sense in the context where morality isn’t clearly involved, such as loyalty to a sports team or to a country or even to an ideology, but in moral matters it’s insufficient and can even be problematic.
The only time loyalty exists as a quality that can be quantified and brought up, is during times of struggle where you are being asked to turn against them. The vast majority of these times are when a crime or sin is committed. You didn't need to put context, because the very word being used adds context itself, and you don't want those problems brought up because it immediately makes the reason for loyalty obvious.
in moral matters it’s insufficient and can even be problematic.
It doesn't need to be anything more than it is. You hate loyalty because you've been on the losing end, as your own example demonstates. The entire point of it is to keep external forces on the losing end to protect someone who has done right by you enough to have earned your loyalty.
Sure in a perfect world where everything is exactly perfectly utopian its unnecessary, but this isn't that world and never will be. The same reason why for all the "flaws" and "unnecessary" elements you can in things like capitalism, monogamy, and religion they still exist and are superior to the alternative.
You hate loyalty because you've been on the losing end,
Not true. You don't know me. Also, I didn't say I hate loyalty.
The entire point of it is to keep external forces on the losing end to protect someone who has done right by you enough to have earned your loyalty.
So it's a tribal substitute for informed judgement. That fits more or less with what I said.
A good person doesn't need loyalty to do this because they believe everyone who hasn't done anything to explicitly lose their trust has the right to the benefit of the doubt.
Sure in a perfect world where everything is exactly perfectly utopian its unnecessary, but this isn't that world and never will be.
I disagree. In my experience it's in the imperfect world where grace shines the brightest. I know many people's whose lives are a testimony to that end. You may think me naive but I encourage everyone to resist the pull of tribalism and seek higher values.
Nope, but when you complain about a specific problem being the reason you don't understand something considered a good thing by most people, it comes across to everyone as exactly that.
That fits more or less with what I said.
Sure, we can add more and more words to make you sound smarter by adding more and more complexity to one of the most basic human concepts and instincts.
You may think me naive but I encourage everyone to resist the pull of tribalism and seek higher values.
While you are encouraging everyone to live in a purity spiral of aiming for perfection and creating a perfect world, you are being cut down and rendered powerless by people who are under no such restriction and are under no care for your morals or preserving them.
And they love you trying to uphold all those values, while downplaying loyalty and other "imperfect" traits of morality. Makes it incredibly easy to isolate people out and remove them entirely, while also making you hilariously easy to manipulate to their whims and needs until you yourself are isolated out and lobotomized.
Sure, we can add more and more words to make you sound smarter by adding more and more complexity to one of the most basic human concepts and instincts.
This is an appeal to nature; something being natural doesn’t make it good or moral.
While you are encouraging everyone to live in a purity spiral of aiming for perfection and creating a perfect world, you are being cut down and rendered powerless by people who are under no such restriction and are under no care for your morals or preserving them.
And they love you trying to uphold all those values, while downplaying loyalty and other "imperfect" traits of morality. Makes it incredibly easy to isolate people out and remove them entirely, while also making you hilariously easy to manipulate to their whims and needs until you yourself are isolated out and lobotomized.
Me and people like me predicted all of this — what is happening in the West — at least 30 years ago, and have been warning everyone about it to the best of our ability this entire time. We’ve remained unflinching in our conviction and unwavering in the face of the cultural conquest. Sure, some people have fallen away, seduced by Leftist culture or other ideologies, but the core remains strong, primarily because our values are based on something eternal and universal and not tribalistic or worldly.
You make some predictions but nothing you’ve said has been born out so far, and I don’t expect that to change. I expect we’ll be the last ones standing at the end to pick up the pieces just like we always are.
As if a fake DMCA claim isn't low enough, we now have fake revenge porn claims, huh?
“Yes my porno was on pornhub, and yes I was paid for it, but it’s my private business!”
If she isn't lying I fail to see how being a model and in a provocative video that you haven't bother to take down, which means it's not from when you were trafficked, somehow negates you having been trafficked.
Why block someone? Just say "voluntarily modeling isn't the same as being trafficked" and move on.
That is one scary looking tranny. Nightmare fuel.
I know some people don't like TheQuartering's content and, say what you want about the guy, but he seems loyal as fuck. I don't know much about StarWarsGirl, but same for her. They're always sticking up for their buds, and I respect that a lot.
He seems like a decent enough guy if you met him in person but he greatly exaggerates things, manufactures drama and abuses click-bait tactics, which is unfortunately very common among right-wing content creators.
Personally, I don't understand people who value loyalty. I hate betrayal and backstabbing, but I also don't like it when people give preferential treatment to their friends or family regardless of the facts of the situation. Sticking up for your friends when they're in the wrong doesn't seem commendable to me.
Walk with integrity. Uphold your obligations. Judge without bias. Treat everyone properly in accordance with their behavior. Be kind. Be fair. Be honest. This seems like the proper way.
It’s difficult for me to wrap my head around this perspective.
Your values must be very poor if you’ll willingly compromise them for friends or family.
As a Christian, Jesus Christ takes precedence over everything. This means placing the truth and righteousness above everything. This obedience to Christ and prioritization of things greater than you or your family bears fruit in countless blessing for Christians, including having strong families, but this only possible if you correctly identify the “Most Important Thing” and pursue it above all else.
To live your life with no higher values or motivation beyond the needs and desires of your family sounds depressing and pointless beyond the perpetuation if your genes to the next generation. It’s just another flavor of materialism.
That's a good point. It's also about acceptable degrees. Your friend rapes or murders someone? Fuck that guy, off to jail with you. He does something more minor but still immoral, like steal? Yeah, I'll probably try not to involve the law, and help him make it right or something, while keeping him out of trouble...even though he did wrong.
I don't follow them too closely, but I haven't seen them sticking up for people in the wrong - although I do know what you're talking about, and have certainly seen others do this - and I was more talking about they always have their friends' backs when they get targeted and censored for bullshit reasons.
I'm not saying loyalty over all, I'm saying these guys stick up for their friends when they're abused, and that's absolutely commendable.
Yes, if you put it that way I would certainly agree.
It’s important to protect and support your friends and family, but if a friend or family member does something wrong, it’s important to correct them and help them understand their error because that’s only way they will grow or improve.
What I don’t approve of is defending a friend or family member unconditionally even if they did something wrong or unconditionally running to someone’s defense irregardless of the truth just because they supported you in the past. You should never harm someone unjustly to help a friend or family member.
Loyalty to your friends and family means protecting them from a lynch mob, and then making sure they repent for their crimes properly once that is done. Only one part of that is seen to the public, which is why you have some warped idea of how it works.
If a person has earned my loyalty, they have done enough good by me to not be instantly tossed away like garbage the moment an accusation happens. And they have done enough to earn my defense from an angry bunch of idiots trying to attack them, regardless of what they have committed.
Everyone deserves to have someone in their corner. And if their current action is irrelevant to whatever prior action earned my loyalty, then I won't discard it entirely once it comes to light. No sin is so great that the punishment is "every single thing you've ever done is now erased, and you are damned to solitary confinement until death."
You’re reading way too much context into what I said. I didn’t say anything about lynch mobs, crimes, or giving people the benefit of the doubt.
It seems to me that loyalty may be a substitute for higher values that would make loyalty unnecessary.
You shouldn’t let anyone be killed by an angry lynch mob. You shouldn’t toss away anyone the moment an accusation happens. You should extend the benefit of doubt to anyone who hasn’t done something to explicit make you distrust them. Everyone should be granted some degree of grace as they try to make their way through this crazy world.
These are values that should be upheld regardless of who the person is, friend or stranger, so loyalty in this context just seems like a substitute for people unwilling or unable to do these things for people who they aren’t personally invested in.
Loyalty makes sense in the context where morality isn’t clearly involved, such as loyalty to a sports team or to a country or even to an ideology, but in moral matters it’s insufficient and can even be problematic.
The only time loyalty exists as a quality that can be quantified and brought up, is during times of struggle where you are being asked to turn against them. The vast majority of these times are when a crime or sin is committed. You didn't need to put context, because the very word being used adds context itself, and you don't want those problems brought up because it immediately makes the reason for loyalty obvious.
It doesn't need to be anything more than it is. You hate loyalty because you've been on the losing end, as your own example demonstates. The entire point of it is to keep external forces on the losing end to protect someone who has done right by you enough to have earned your loyalty.
Sure in a perfect world where everything is exactly perfectly utopian its unnecessary, but this isn't that world and never will be. The same reason why for all the "flaws" and "unnecessary" elements you can in things like capitalism, monogamy, and religion they still exist and are superior to the alternative.
Not true. You don't know me. Also, I didn't say I hate loyalty.
So it's a tribal substitute for informed judgement. That fits more or less with what I said.
A good person doesn't need loyalty to do this because they believe everyone who hasn't done anything to explicitly lose their trust has the right to the benefit of the doubt.
I disagree. In my experience it's in the imperfect world where grace shines the brightest. I know many people's whose lives are a testimony to that end. You may think me naive but I encourage everyone to resist the pull of tribalism and seek higher values.
Nope, but when you complain about a specific problem being the reason you don't understand something considered a good thing by most people, it comes across to everyone as exactly that.
Sure, we can add more and more words to make you sound smarter by adding more and more complexity to one of the most basic human concepts and instincts.
While you are encouraging everyone to live in a purity spiral of aiming for perfection and creating a perfect world, you are being cut down and rendered powerless by people who are under no such restriction and are under no care for your morals or preserving them.
And they love you trying to uphold all those values, while downplaying loyalty and other "imperfect" traits of morality. Makes it incredibly easy to isolate people out and remove them entirely, while also making you hilariously easy to manipulate to their whims and needs until you yourself are isolated out and lobotomized.
This is an appeal to nature; something being natural doesn’t make it good or moral.
Me and people like me predicted all of this — what is happening in the West — at least 30 years ago, and have been warning everyone about it to the best of our ability this entire time. We’ve remained unflinching in our conviction and unwavering in the face of the cultural conquest. Sure, some people have fallen away, seduced by Leftist culture or other ideologies, but the core remains strong, primarily because our values are based on something eternal and universal and not tribalistic or worldly.
You make some predictions but nothing you’ve said has been born out so far, and I don’t expect that to change. I expect we’ll be the last ones standing at the end to pick up the pieces just like we always are.
I hate the quartering, but I probably would hate this EB broad if I knew who she was. So... meh, internet drama.
Quartering's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7kVcP5NUe0&feature=youtu.be
Venti's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr0GVcm5B2k
Eliza Bleu triggered every bullshitter response I have from the first time I saw her. Doesn't mean I'm right, but not surprised.