Nope, but when you complain about a specific problem being the reason you don't understand something considered a good thing by most people, it comes across to everyone as exactly that.
That fits more or less with what I said.
Sure, we can add more and more words to make you sound smarter by adding more and more complexity to one of the most basic human concepts and instincts.
You may think me naive but I encourage everyone to resist the pull of tribalism and seek higher values.
While you are encouraging everyone to live in a purity spiral of aiming for perfection and creating a perfect world, you are being cut down and rendered powerless by people who are under no such restriction and are under no care for your morals or preserving them.
And they love you trying to uphold all those values, while downplaying loyalty and other "imperfect" traits of morality. Makes it incredibly easy to isolate people out and remove them entirely, while also making you hilariously easy to manipulate to their whims and needs until you yourself are isolated out and lobotomized.
Sure, we can add more and more words to make you sound smarter by adding more and more complexity to one of the most basic human concepts and instincts.
This is an appeal to nature; something being natural doesn’t make it good or moral.
While you are encouraging everyone to live in a purity spiral of aiming for perfection and creating a perfect world, you are being cut down and rendered powerless by people who are under no such restriction and are under no care for your morals or preserving them.
And they love you trying to uphold all those values, while downplaying loyalty and other "imperfect" traits of morality. Makes it incredibly easy to isolate people out and remove them entirely, while also making you hilariously easy to manipulate to their whims and needs until you yourself are isolated out and lobotomized.
Me and people like me predicted all of this — what is happening in the West — at least 30 years ago, and have been warning everyone about it to the best of our ability this entire time. We’ve remained unflinching in our conviction and unwavering in the face of the cultural conquest. Sure, some people have fallen away, seduced by Leftist culture or other ideologies, but the core remains strong, primarily because our values are based on something eternal and universal and not tribalistic or worldly.
You make some predictions but nothing you’ve said has been born out so far, and I don’t expect that to change. I expect we’ll be the last ones standing at the end to pick up the pieces just like we always are.
something being natural doesn’t make it good or moral.
I made no prescriptive judgement of it being good or moral. I said it was basic. As in, it didn't need you to redefine it multiple times to describe what it was. It was a natural concept that humans naturally understood without needing to learn, and trying to fancy it up only makes you seem like you have an agenda.
Sure, some people have fallen away, seduced by Leftist culture or other ideologies, but the core remains strong, primarily because our values are based on something eternal and universal and not tribalistic or worldly.
That's a really huffing your own farts way of saying "some of you may die, but its a sacrifice I'm willing to make." I guess when you consider yourself so smart and full of aged wisdom, the suffering and misery of others means nothing to you. As long as you get to look back and say "I never compromised!" the infinite graves are all justified.
I've also been in this "culture war" for decades, you aren't special in that regard.
I made no prescriptive judgement of it being good or moral. I said it was basic. As in, it didn't need you to redefine it multiple times to describe what it was.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. I never redefined it because I never defined it in the first place, you did. I just said it seems like a substitute for higher values.
That's a really huffing your own farts way of saying "some of you may die, but its a sacrifice I'm willing to make." I guess when you consider yourself so smart and full of aged wisdom, the suffering and misery of others means nothing to you. As long as you get to look back and say "I never compromised!" the infinite graves are all justified.
You’re being over-dramatic.
You claimed my pursuit of higher values would cause me and people like me to get cut down and isolated, and also the Left likes us to do this because it makes us weak. I’m just pointing out that this hasn’t been true so far and isn’t likely to change anytime soon. Literally nothing you’re saying about my position matches reality.
Maybe you’ll be proven right at some point, but I’m not optimistic about your chances.
I never redefined it because I never defined it in the first place, you did
The entire conversation happened because you couldn't accept a basic definition for it, and kept needing other ones like " tribal substitute for informed judgement" to make it jive with whatever problem you had with it is.
But its okay, when all you do is say "nu uh, that's wrong, here is my utopia instead" you always sound super wise.
You’re being over-dramatic.
We’ve remained unflinching in our conviction and unwavering in the face of the cultural conquest. ... we’ll be the last ones standing at the end to pick up the pieces just like we always are.
I mean, you started it my guy.
cause me and people like me to get cut down and isolate
I said it made people easy to isolate and cut down. You may be an unflinching bulwark of perfection, but those you preach to likely are not. Yet you are leading them to be weakness trying to reach your example, while there are predators around happy to eat those larvae if they pop their heads out.
Pursue your higher ideals, but remember you live in reality while doing it. And when you preach it, you are taking responsibility for others who listen to you.
I’m just pointing out that this hasn’t been true so far and isn’t likely to change anytime soon.
You can think this is because of your superiority. I can think this is because you are so little of a threat to anyone that the powers that be don't even care about your existence yet, as there are bigger fish to fry.
Nope, but when you complain about a specific problem being the reason you don't understand something considered a good thing by most people, it comes across to everyone as exactly that.
Sure, we can add more and more words to make you sound smarter by adding more and more complexity to one of the most basic human concepts and instincts.
While you are encouraging everyone to live in a purity spiral of aiming for perfection and creating a perfect world, you are being cut down and rendered powerless by people who are under no such restriction and are under no care for your morals or preserving them.
And they love you trying to uphold all those values, while downplaying loyalty and other "imperfect" traits of morality. Makes it incredibly easy to isolate people out and remove them entirely, while also making you hilariously easy to manipulate to their whims and needs until you yourself are isolated out and lobotomized.
This is an appeal to nature; something being natural doesn’t make it good or moral.
Me and people like me predicted all of this — what is happening in the West — at least 30 years ago, and have been warning everyone about it to the best of our ability this entire time. We’ve remained unflinching in our conviction and unwavering in the face of the cultural conquest. Sure, some people have fallen away, seduced by Leftist culture or other ideologies, but the core remains strong, primarily because our values are based on something eternal and universal and not tribalistic or worldly.
You make some predictions but nothing you’ve said has been born out so far, and I don’t expect that to change. I expect we’ll be the last ones standing at the end to pick up the pieces just like we always are.
I made no prescriptive judgement of it being good or moral. I said it was basic. As in, it didn't need you to redefine it multiple times to describe what it was. It was a natural concept that humans naturally understood without needing to learn, and trying to fancy it up only makes you seem like you have an agenda.
That's a really huffing your own farts way of saying "some of you may die, but its a sacrifice I'm willing to make." I guess when you consider yourself so smart and full of aged wisdom, the suffering and misery of others means nothing to you. As long as you get to look back and say "I never compromised!" the infinite graves are all justified.
I've also been in this "culture war" for decades, you aren't special in that regard.
I don’t know what you’re talking about. I never redefined it because I never defined it in the first place, you did. I just said it seems like a substitute for higher values.
You’re being over-dramatic.
You claimed my pursuit of higher values would cause me and people like me to get cut down and isolated, and also the Left likes us to do this because it makes us weak. I’m just pointing out that this hasn’t been true so far and isn’t likely to change anytime soon. Literally nothing you’re saying about my position matches reality.
Maybe you’ll be proven right at some point, but I’m not optimistic about your chances.
The entire conversation happened because you couldn't accept a basic definition for it, and kept needing other ones like " tribal substitute for informed judgement" to make it jive with whatever problem you had with it is.
But its okay, when all you do is say "nu uh, that's wrong, here is my utopia instead" you always sound super wise.
I mean, you started it my guy.
I said it made people easy to isolate and cut down. You may be an unflinching bulwark of perfection, but those you preach to likely are not. Yet you are leading them to be weakness trying to reach your example, while there are predators around happy to eat those larvae if they pop their heads out.
Pursue your higher ideals, but remember you live in reality while doing it. And when you preach it, you are taking responsibility for others who listen to you.
You can think this is because of your superiority. I can think this is because you are so little of a threat to anyone that the powers that be don't even care about your existence yet, as there are bigger fish to fry.