That’s not how it works. The left owns the traditional media. The left owns social media. The left are the ones that have infested our government agencies. The left owns academia. The left are the ones that have the desire to get into places of power, where they can influence “the narrative”, and policy.
They have no principles other than, “that which entrenches us, is acceptable”. Everything bad will still be attributed to Trump. Anything good will be attributed to “having given the left power”.
All this stupid shit, where people seem to think, “well now it’s OUR turn to hold their feet to the fire!” No - that’s not how it works. You’re about to find out.
Lol. Parler will be gone in weeks/months. This is the left’s M.O.
Censor / ban their political enemies from the defacto public squares. Tell them they’re private businesses, so free speech doesn’t apply. Tell them to “make their own”. Once they make their own, get the media to paint them as dens for racists, nazis, sexists, pedophiles. Go after advertisers to not advertise on those new platforms. Go after hosting companies to not host those platforms. Get apple/google to remove the apps for those platforms.
Fuck, people need to wake up. The left is totally out of control, and there is basically nothing standing in their way now (short of outright war, which seems unlikely) from them crushing their opponents now. They are not going to stop.
LOL! How do people STILL not fucking get it? The Democrats could do that because they own the media.
If the right tries to behave in kind, they are going to get absolutely eviscerated in the news, and public opinion will turn against them very quickly. They will not have the courage to deal with that.
We'll see how long that can be maintained once the media starts "reporting" on it.
Edit: Army Deploys DC National Guard to the Capitol, and FBI Mobilizes Agents
The left absolutely owns all the major metro areas - especially DC. Any attempts at violence/rioting by the right, are just going to result in the police/national guard (finally - Oh! it's amazing! when the other side riots, suddenly the police are allowed to put a stop to it???) clamping down hard/fast.
Then, what you'll see is hefty prison terms being handed out for the people involved in this, to dissuade further participation. All those anarchists, communists, all around shitbags that were burning/smashing everything they could, being let out literally the same day? Nah. Now it's a 5 year sentence, and magically all of the prosecutors of these cities will be more than willing to try every single case.
Finally, all that "Fiery, but mostly peaceful" type reporting? LOL!
The right can't win in this game, with these rules. The left controls everything that matters here. Short of an actual civil war, the country is fucked.
It's all downside for him if he signs, all upside if he doesn't.
In what way? If he doesn't sign, the media spends the next MONTH+ running sob stories of all the people losing their homes, losing their jobs, etc. They will place 100% of the blame on Trump. "Why didn't he want to help these people in their time of need? How could he let 'the perfect' be the enemy of 'the good'. It was obvious to everyone but him that the people needed something"
Then, what you're going to get - which is what we are STILL likely to get - is the leftist controlled congress, getting a bigger deal done - once Biden is installed - and the media is going to absolutely fellatiate them (and themselves, seeing as its the media's preferred party) for how it took "Getting rid of Hitler Trump, and handing the reins of power back to the left, to finally help the people!"
You honestly don't think that's what the goal is here? Seriously?
And it does matter how it plays in the news. It's not just about Trump. The fucking media is using COVID, using the BLM shit, using Trump in order to try to destroy the GOP permanently - or split them into two - so that they can have permanent, one fucking party, leftist control of the government.
And how do you think the media would have spun that?
He can't win here. Plain and simple.
Vetoing this just allows the left to use the media their propaganda/indoctrination arm to spin it so that, "Look how little Trump cares about people suffering! Now look how - wow - Biden came in and worked with congress to take care of the people!
He can't win. It doesn't matter if "doing x is obviously the correct course", when the other side has the ability to make it so that the vast majority of the public will believe the opposite.
This.
It's amazing how many people just completely fail to grasp how big a deal it is that the left absolutely controls the media (traditional/social).
Anything Trump does - anything - will be spun to hurt him, and help Biden. Any course of action the man takes has to be prefaced by first thinking - how can the media use this to hurt me? All these things people come up with, where they think, "How can he be such a traitor! Why doesn't he just do x??!!". Those things all sound great, and feel great, but the media are the ones that control what the mob knows/thinks. They are just going to portray things in the way that hurts him, and makes him look bad.
Until the left's control over the narrative - traditional media, social/internet media, and then education - is broken, I don't see how any victory is possible. How can anyone win in a system where your opponent is basically allowed unfettered control over what the majority of public sees, and how they will view it?
It's not just that, either. It's the fact that, with everything that has transpired over the last five years, the lesson they have learned is what? That they don't even need to bother to pretend to be even remotely unbiased anymore, and nothing bad happens. Think about what they've done over the last five years.
They have the ability to make it so that not a single day can go by without the public hearing something bad about you. Seriously. Not a single. fucking. day.* If you are not one of their anointed, they can make it so that there will be a near constant cloud of "bad" surrounding you at all times, and regardless of people remembering the specifics, they will have that general negativity in their minds when they next go to the polls.
On top of that, they have the ability to make it so that, whatever ridiculous crap their side pulls, it will either get near zero coverage, or it will always be spun in a way that minimizes the damage.
Finally, they have now learned that they can basically outright cheat, and that anyone not already firmly part of the right is never going to hear about it, and - even if they do - they won't care enough to demand anything be done about it - because they are: 1. in total control of how news is presented to the public. 2. in total control over whether or not the story is presented to the public at all
For me, I think people would be best served now by dedicating all their rage, all their ire, towards the target that is most responsible for things being like they are: the things that allow the left to indoctrinate/control the public. We need to go after the media, go after the internet companies, and then - ideally - drive the left out of education, or - at the very least - make it much more difficult for them to push their politics in schools. If people on the right just keep being complacent, and just accepting leftist control of those 3 "institutions", we're fucked. It's that simple. You cannot win when your enemy gets to indoctrinate two thirds of the public.
Sure. Good luck with making it have any difference, though.
When the left did it / does it, they do it with full control/backing of traditional media, social media, internet search, education, and the entertainment industry.
When you try it (or, more importantly, if the GOP tries to do what the left has done for the past 4 years), what will you have backing you, setting the narrative, and propagandizing the public?
Yeah...
People need to finally start getting it. The shitbag left has been allowed to absolutely infest so much of our societal institutions. Their control is allowing them to bias everything on their behalf. With that bias, they are indoctrinating large portions of our population.
Saying you're going to throw a fit like they did sounds/feels great, but how can you win against that?
It's already happening that way today. For people who grew up in the 90s or 2000s, think about how many shows had the whole "girls can be as good as boys" with sports stories there were.
You forgot the key point - "girls can be as good as boys... except in all the ways girls are better!"
They've been indoctrinating us with this crap for decades now.
Do they even realize how good the US system is? It has all this balances in order to protect against a tyranny of the majority and a tyranny of the government.
What if... and I know this is just spitballing, but what if... the left doesn't want checks against tyranny of the majority, and tyranny of the government? You only need to look back as far as... now - and the whole COVID thing - to see what the left wants MOST is for some all powerful government/agency to tell everyone - especially those that don't agree with them politically - what to do.
The left absolutely wants an all powerful federal government. They have been so indoctrinated by the media, and by the leftist education they received, that they no longer have American values. They want a tyrannical government. They just want to be the ones in charge of it.
Finally something I agree with them on. The media - and their totally throwing aside professionalism/duty, and instead becoming the largest, most disgusting/vile propaganda/indoctrination ministry our country has ever seen - is 100% the reason things went like they did.
No one - not Donald Trump, not Abraham Lincoln, not George Fucking Washington - could have won with what was arrayed against him. For five plus years, the public couldn't do anything without hearing "Orange man bad!' at least a handful of times per day. You combine that, with unsolicited mail in voting, and I don't find it hard to believe - at all - that you could get a bunch of people that normally would have been too uninterested, too lazy, too whatever, to go stand in line to go cast a ballot, to simply check a box for "Orange man bad! I've heard it non stop for five years, so it MUST be true...", and stuff it in a mailbox.
Unless the leftist control of the media, and now the online censor board - i.e., big tech - is dealt with, the right (and the whole country, once the left starts ramming their shit tier ideas through) is in for a lot of hurt.
They might want that. But most don't want their name on it. Make their name stick, and make it clear that it's their fault.
Good luck with that.
God, I still don't get how there are seemingly so many people on this sub - of all the subs, given what started it - that don't get how basically how much power having control of the media provides. All has transpired over the last five years - all of it - was enabled by their control of the media.
How in the fuck are you going to "make it stick", and "make them assume blame", when the only people you are going to reach are those that already oppose the left? Other than the people firmly on the right side of the political spectrum, the left has near total control over the narrative that more than half (the leftist half, and the average people in the middle) are fed. TOTAL. FUCKING. CONTROL.
This - and this alone - is why the left is able to get away with all the stuff the get away with. When you have the power to decide what becomes a story, and what doesn't become a story; when you have the power to have all of the entertainment media people consume have a leftist bias; when you have the ability to make little blurbs appear next to anything your political opponents tweet, calling into question its "veracity"; when you have the ability to fucking outright indoctrinate more than half the country? You can do whatever the fuck you want. The other side is basically powerless to do anything about it.
Until the media is dealt with, the right is done. They need to wake the fuck up, and realize that. The fact they were able to do what they did this election, is going to embolden them so much, it's going to be unbelievable. Think about all the stuff that went on just now:
- They were able to censor any story that would hurt their candidate right out of the news. Someone accusing him of sexual assault? Nope. Gone. Gigantic trove of electronic documents proving him to have been letting his son sell his political influence to foreign countries? Nada. Gone.
- They were able to run a campaign in which their candidate was hardly seen, and never had to even really lay out any sort of platform. He was allowed to "answer" important questions like, "Will you pack the courts", by saying, "I'm not going to answer that. People can find out after I'm elected".
- They were allowed to let their side loot, burn, murder, and pillage for five plus months, and the majority of the public stills buys that it was some sort of "mostly peaceful", righteous movement. They want to eliminate law enforcement, and the places in which they are doing this experienced near total anarchy. Despite this, all those place still voted - overwhelmingly for the left!
- They managed to near totally hide (again, from more than half the country) the fact that their candidate is clearly in (in the very least) the early stages of some serious mental decline. The guy has trouble speaking... at all.
- They had total control over what the candidates were/weren't asked in the debates. The moderators? All of them were clearly, and wildly biased against Trump.
- They were able to - for four years, his entire term - grind the entire country to a halt, and actually succeeded in impeaching the President of the United Fucking States... with no evidence whatsoever.
- They were able to convince more than half the country - by simply ensuring that they ran 99% negative coverage - that the guy never ever did anything good. EVER. Watch the quick little vid from Karen Straughan. How many of those things do you think more than half the country (even people that support Trump) know about? The reason they don't know is the media.
- This last one is a big one, and it was honestly probably the final nail in the coffin: They were able to use the media to create total panic over COVID, with the explicit purpose of running the economy/country into the ground, so that people would be utterly miserable, and then be more susceptible to voting for "change". Despite the fact that Trump respected our Constitution, and let the individual states handle things in the way they felt was best, and that those leftist states then proceeded to fuck everything up, the media assigned the blame to Trump. They "made that stick".
My God, typing all that out is infuriating. That's not even a complete list of all the bullshit, either. I just can't stand to type any more!
Just think about all that, though. It's great to keep thinking about "How much people don't trust the media", or "Look at how Trump broke the media! LOL!", but it's only true when you're discussing the roughly third of the country that is already on Trump's side. For the rest of the country, the media - the left - exerts tremendous control over what the public thinks.
For the next four / eight years (who knows! maybe even more!) you are not going to get anything to "stick", my friend. Everything bad that happens will have its blame assigned to "the remnants of the disastrous Trump Administration", or Republican "obstructionism". For more than half the country, they decide who gets the blame.
The people who were so willing to put a check next to Biden's name that you describe weren't interested in down ballot voting, like, at all... All those people who checked Biden and mailed it in...
...Doesn't explain all the votes that were Biden only.
How does it not? To me, them voting only for Biden, is the thing that makes it even more believable to me.
The media didn't just go absolutely bonkers, and run non-stop propaganda - for five years - against any of those down ballot people. The majority of these people - the ones who cast your "only Biden" ballots - are those who don't normally vote, and this time they were only voting to get rid of "Orange man bad!".
It wasn't a vote for Biden. It wasn't a vote for all those badass Biden policies he was promising (Like anyone even knows what they are). It wasn't a vote for hyper leftist politics. No one gives an f' about Biden.
These people who only voted only for Biden were the low information, low interest, low energy (as in they don't pay attention to politics, they don't know the issues, they usually don't even bother to vote) people. These people are the exact people who were the most susceptible to the five years of indoctrination by the media. They were absolutely inundated by "Orange man bad!" for five fucking years! On top of that, they have just spent the last eight fucking months watching the economy, and their normal/social lives being turned to shit. These people are miserable, they just want stuff to "change", and all they constantly hear is that the reason for their misery is... "Orange man bad!"
The left knew that was their path to victory - those people. They knew they needed as many of those people to vote as possible, and COVID gave them exactly the reason they needed, to enable exactly what they would fucking need to get that to happen: universal mail in voting.
It worked.
Again - please don't think I'm totally disregarding the likely fraud. It's fairly obvious that there was plenty of that. The universal mail in voting (made possible by the media, and what they've done with COVID) made the whole election absolutely ripe for the usual crap - like ballot harvesting - that the left loves to pull. It has also made it so that they could do simple crap like "oops! here's a bunch more mail in votes for Biden! We'll just backdate those, and dump them into the pile with all the legal votes cast by the actual deadline! Good luck separating them from the legal ones if you ever try to do an audit!"
I'm sure they did cheat where they could. I still don't think that's the main reason the left won, though. They won because they absolutely own the flow of information to those low interest / low energy voters. With what they are now doing with regards to the censoring of anything they don't like on social media, things are only going to get worse.
They didn't "want him to do" anything. They already know that there's not really anything that anyone can do to make any difference here. The virus/pandemic is going to run its course, and it's going to go away. It's what always happens. What they did want to do was to use this crisis as a way to win the election. They whipped the country into a panic, pushed for lockdowns that destroyed Trump's one crown jewel - the good economy - and then dragged those lockdowns out for so long that it left everyone absolutely miserable. Miserable people are willing to vote for "change". They got exactly what they wanted, exactly when they needed it. The media is the despicable.
He's worse than that.
He has actively contributed to the division and polarization of this country. He, and the others of his ilk - Jimmy Kimmel, Noah Trevor, John Oliver, Don Lemon - and the granddaddy of the whole modern leftist snark-monster "political comedian" phenomenon - John Fucking Stewart - have been at the helm of the whole "Divide the country by pretending like we're the smart ones, and calling their political opponents stupid" thing.
When Colbert went on the air after the 2016 election, and mourned how the country was so divided, and acted like Trump (and the "White-lash"!) was the result of people not being respectful of / nicer to the other side, it was literally the most brain dead, hypocritical, totally lacking in self introspection thing I had ever seen. That asshole had literally spent his entire fucking career ripping on half the country - calling them racist, calling them stupid, calling them heartless - and he was going to sit there and talk about how "we" (What he really meant was "they" - i.e., his opponents) needed to be nicer to each other?
Fuck off.
When you go online, and you see people from the other side treating you like you are sub human filth for not being a leftist like them, know that assholes like Colbert are a big part of the reason they think like that. He is part of their conditioning.
Here's the thing: For the Democrats to win they had to cheat. There was no path to victory for them, at any point, without cheating.
I'm not sure I'm onboard with this. I do feel that there was definitely some fraud/bullshit going on. Whether or not it was enough to actually flip the election, we'll likely never know, because of how they did it (backdating mail in ballots, and mixing them in with the others? I don't see how you can ever separate the ones that were received on time vs the fraudulent ones now...).
That being said, even without the fraud, it's pretty obvious what their strategy was here: they ran five. fucking. years of non. stop propaganda against the man.
Every time someone turned on a tv. Every time someone picked up their phone. Every time someone went onto reddit. Onto Facebook. Onto twitter. Every time someone searched for a video on YouTube. Every time someone did any search on google. Every day of our lives, for the past five. fucking. years we have been bombarded with non stop propaganda telling you that Trump was the worst, most racist, most sexist, stupidest, cringiest, biggest buffoon of a man ever.
For five years, all people have heard about is how he stole the previous election with help from Putin. About how he worked with Ukraine to try to stop Biden. About how he's a pedophile. About how he's locking Mexicans up in cages. About how he wants to take away rights from women, from gays, from trans people.
Then, on top of all that, they used the media to whip the country into a panic about COVID, and forced lockdowns - FOR EIGHT PLUS MONTHS NOW - that have left the economy in absolute ruins, and have made everyone completely miserable.
They did all that, and then they sent out universal mail in ballots - meaning that all the really low information, low energy people - people that were the ones most susceptible to their propaganda/indoctrination, people that - and this is most important - that usually don't bother to vote - checked a box that said, "No more Trump. I just want life to feel normal again", and mailed it in.
That's what this election is all about. It has nothing to do with fucking stupid ass Biden. No one is energetic about Biden. No one even knows what Biden's platform fucking IS. This election was about the ability of the left to use their control of the media - and now social media - to run a non stop propaganda campaign against their political opponent, to make sure they got back into power.
It worked.
The media and the tech companies are going to keep doing everything possible to back whatever the left needs the narrative to be.
They are the reason for this entire situation. It's not, and never has been, Trump vs Biden. This is Trump vs The Shitbag Leftist Media (traditional and social).
It's unbelievable how scary of a precedent this is setting. That, if they throw away any pretense of being actual news, and just run straight up propaganda, they can get "their guy/side" into power.
It honestly shouldn't be possible for the democrats to win this election.
It's disgusting, isn't it? If it weren't for the media, and now the tech companies, being 99.9% straight up propaganda for the left, they wouldn't stand a chance.
It's not.
Under normal circumstancesIf it was done by Trump or anyone else not on the left, it would be, but anything that could be negative forBidenanyone on the left will be ignored or dismissed by the media, and only news junkies (who have likely already made up their minds on how they're voting) will be aware of stories like this.
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Man, I wish I had the confidence everyone else seems to have. The media the leftist propaganda ministry has been running anti-Trump indoctrination - NON-FUCKING-STOP - for close to 5 years now. The last election was razor thin. To me, it seems super likely that, with:
- 5 Years of relentless propaganda
- The left using covid to push lockdowns that destroyed the economy, and made everyone miserable
- The leftist tech magnates using their near total control of all internet search, and social media to electioneer the fuck out of almost all information
it's highly likely that they are going to manage to make enough people so demoralized, and so desperate for "change" that they are going to move things the couple of percentage points they need to take this election.
I don't see how anyone could win with this much arrayed against them. I see really dark times ahead.
Trump getting the rona is just the best excuse they have to get what they wanted to begin with.
It's unreal how many things seem to be going exactly how the left needed them to go, this year.
Without the corona stuff, and the way it enabled the left to burn Trump's economy to the ground with lockdowns, they probably wouldn't have stood a chance.
And what a waste, too, when they could have just written, “anything that does not sufficiently toe the leftist line will be deleted. In addition, users submitting said changes will be banned from further submissions.”