And there was no reasoning or science before Christ?
Within unstable and isolated bodies with no way to truly persist. Without Christendom, it would be a showerthought. None of it would have come into bloom without the custodianship of Christianity. Greeks and Romans would have kept killing eachother over it and hoddle in their little mystery schools, for their bud to wither and die. Same across the board. None had the right faculties for correlating all their contents.
What I'm saying here is that our moral faculties preserved knowledge and that there is an eminent basis for it and that these edicts are like organs of a collective body that has a mind of its own, which values knowledge among other things. That knowledge then evolved due to those who were themselves shaped by Christianity.
Keep in mind these cultures from which either science or reasoning stems had their own mythological structures and they had them for a reason.
Are you trying to say Jesus gave us abstract thought
In a collective manner. Think bigger. Can the body of a population collectively generate an abstract thought? Not if the organs for it are malignant and adversarial, and if so, all the worse. This is why there is one gospel.
And this is all the plan of some magical being that transcends all physical laws but is real because you compared him to a gene?
My beliefs are different from others in the sense that he doesn't have to transcend physical laws, and that it truly doesn't matter. The impact itself defies cause and effect if that can be called "magical", it is more miraculous than anything ever written. Christianity should have died by 300, or even with the apostles and their gruesome fates, yet it conquered the world - it was and is the strongest meta-organism for a reason and it came from what amounted to a mustard seed, an execution that was basically an everyday thing in Rome and even more typical of the pharisees. It has done what no king or conqueror ever could. A man walking on water is more believable, a snowman in a desert is more believable than Christendom's success. It has subtely shifted the frame of all the cognizant eyes of the known universe both past and present - all looking back to that single thread of context, to an average fucking day in Rome.
In anycase, there are a lot of parallels that can be made between narrative and biology, keep in mind that FOXP2 isn't the only gene responsible for speech, but a larger chain of interactions that have led to speech. Same is true of Christ, take that as you will. I think Jesus Christ is biologically significant and significant in more ways than I care to write out, and that the body of Christendom is a living, breathing entity.
You can whine all you like, weep about the aesthetic in how it just doesn't sound cool or acerbic enough, tack "bullshit" onto everything without even coming close to my point. You won't understand until you're older sailorscout. Read some Kant.
MAGICAL GOD MAN FROM 2000+ YEARS AGO
Yet tradition maintained for 2000+ years and the world was shaped by it. We wouldn't likely be on speaking terms if it were not for this "magical god man", nor would we have the same faculties for examining "whimsical bullshit" without the institutions of education and law that emanated from Christendom as a body.
Jesus himself is like the FOXP2 gene, which gave us the ability to transcend break the code of biological dogma, chronicle, and create our own meta-machinations for observing ourselves; we were given manifest destiny in this regard. This was the main goal of biology, and this is the goal of that larger unseen meta-organism that seems to follow its own rules, from bottom to top. A single activated gene can alter an organism entirely, and for our larger body of context that was Jesus - placing us on speaking terms with something much higher than our two dimensional and worldly understandings and we spoke with our moral constitutions a living language instead of shapelessness and broken sentences constructed in spiritual infancy. A spiritual literacy, curriculum, and legacy.
You completely missed my point and I am not entirely surprised, given your mindset. That said, there is a lot going on with Chris Chan - he is a slave to overindulgence, he is a creature. Would he have been better with Christ? Maybe. I think he is the manifestation of other malignant developments.
What if I told you that we are shaped by things that are beyond empirical examination, that have a memetic blueprint that shapes a body of context that extends well into the epigenetics of a population and how we are collectively shaped? That the common thread is within what you might consider a myth in the same way that the story of Icarus manifested in flight? That the practice of traditions are like the organs of the body on a meta-memetic level? That the shaper is both seen and unseen, rational and irrational, that the soul in and of itself is compartmentalized and metabolized context - that the context, and manifest destiny of biology are shaped by something entirely ethereal and that neither are emergent of the other, but a whole in and of itself? Eternal recurrence but much, much broader.
Therein lies the significance of Christ; though you would have to read both old and new testament to really understand the what and the why.
I was 14 once too.
And before you try to rob me of my precious reddit gold, here's a hint: I'll approach this in about as much good faith as you will. "skydaddy huehuhue" doesn't cut it, because I literally used to think this way... when I was 14.
JEFFERY EPSTEIN AND THESE CHILD MOLESTERS DID IT WHY DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN WE DO IT?!
It's all so very tiresome.
I also keep hearing this shit argument that instilling the idea of having a family in your kids is grooming, and is some kind of equal opposite - to which I say, having a family has virtues that extend well-beyond the act of procreation (which is left minimally or undiscussed until appropriate) and to understand the necessity of the family unit is necessary for the health and prosperity of future generations (A proven metric of success), homosexuality basically just ends at recreational sex (proven metric of general degradation, disease, abuse, and drug addiction). It is your fetish. You want to tell my kids about your fetish. Homosexuality not being a choice also sits on very scant foundations and there is more to prove it is the product of abuse and conditioning than it is genetics.
Then there is - "love is love!" yet love is just a chemical and an antiquated abstraction from the romantic period. etc. etc. etc. ~All very convenient until it's not.~ But of course their minds blot out logical foundation for heterosexual relationships that formulates within even their own dogmatically materialistic perspective.
If you thought sexual reassignment surgery is gruesome now, think of what it was like back then. This reads like a romanticized reiteration of "He got manipulated into having his pecker snipped off by some woowoo bullshit head doctor who like many at the time overplayed the advancement of these surgeries to an almost mystical prestige and they tried to cram a lukewarm cadaver uterus into the infected, oozing hole where his cock, balls, and prostate used to be. He died in fucking agony, all because he got off on wearing tights and a dress just a little too much".
What hanging out with bohemian types does to a motherfucker.
Hey guys anyone who doesn't care about this #ABSOLUTEUNIT enough to laugh at this is a-a... a redditor! It wasn't even a burn and I'll have you know Andrew Tate has a VERY BIG PEEPEE! C'mon! Look at all his cars dude!
Nice try. You aren't fooling anyone Mr. Tate.
I won't condemn anyone for biting, but come on. Dude repackages female dating strategy, obssesses about status, and will probably stand in the mirror well into his 40's whispering to himself frantically like the Lord's prayer "I haven't peaked, I haven't peaked, I haven't peaked". I don't like Greta, but he walked right into that one. There is also nothing faggier than being a "fan" of someone, especially if that someone is an overgrown 16 year old who has to remind you of where your balls are.
UH OOOOH da SMALL PP~
Breathtaking and brave. But also, not exactly wrong whenever it comes to Andrew Tate. I suspect that for him it's a massive blow to his ego what with his incessant and equivocally child-like posturing.
Favorite: https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=Q5T-epVCE6E
Least Favorite: Every single rehash done by some Mariah Carey or Chris Brown wannabe who feels the obnoxious need to pitch check and overly-inflect every single note of every syllable of every word of a children's Christmas song. On repeat everywhere I go.
I don't hate him per se, truth be told I don't care enough. Greta is a retard, but that's what makes this an equivocal riposte and in light of how that actually went I would say the laugh's mostly on him.