Personally, I wouldn't rule it out on its face and freak out over it like its some whacky crackpot theory or something. It's not an outlandish concept. It just does not look like two different people to me.
The fuck does trust but verify even mean in this situation? I get the kernel of truth behind what youre saying; many here sperged and did not even consider the possibility that this conflict could stop so suddenly so quickly, but I would rather they sperg a bit over actually problematic conduct rather than sit back and trust the plan when that has never yielded good results in the past.
It's very possible this isnt over, but yeah, in case this is the end of it, this is why you don't sperg out and go off the deep end. Because you look retarded if the things you're assuming will happen do not indeed actually happen.
Yeah fortunately relatively clear here. But on X it's looking worse and worse.
The shills are out in full force in the comments of that post. Do not let them gaslight normies into believing MAGA has always been about regime change wars.
People dont seem to remember that Trump supported Massie's opponent once in the past and got BTFO then too. Just much less publicly.
If you can see his flaws, then surely you can see why he'd lose to a guy with dementia who hides in a basement
The other user gives a solid bird's eye summary, but the way you frame your comment here is very telling. It has nothing to do with people being unable to conceive that Trump could lose and everything to do with how it happened and how obvious the fraud was as it unfolded. Absolutely zero to do with the relative strengths and weaknesses of Trump and Biden as candidates and everything to do with what was plainly observed during the counting.
Yes, a pipe burst and you had to stop counting for the night, sure Jan.
Sure, that can all be covered by "risk" but it isn't possible to judge the result of that right now. That being said, highly unlikely for Iran to collapse unless this escalates significantly and becomes a very drawn out conflict. Of course, many are frothing at the mouth for that exact outcome and orange man has done little to inspire belief that he won't listen to them.
Realistically, Iran has always been highly incentivized to get nuclear weapons, and the last couple weeks has only made that incentive greater.
At this point it may be better for everyone involved if they do have them, sadly. Except Israel but they can get bent at this point.
If it doesn't devolve into anything more than that, then it isn't functionally much different than a couple incidents during his first term. Just much more risky given the specific contexts, but if the risk doesnt bloom into anything particularly harmful then it's pretty much the same in the end.
Very worrying state of affairs but functionally speaking we are not past the point of no return for this becoming a debilitating and drawn out conflict.
Edit: To be clear, there is realistically some level of trust it will be hard for him to ever win back after this. Unless he directly goes against Israel's interests, people will rightly assess that he is partial to them or compromised by them in some way.
Low bar, but he's still the greatest.
The next couple weeks will go a long way towards deciding if he remains in a league of his own, or is just king of the trash heap.
That being said, if Trump continues to spend significant time, energy, and American resources on cucking for Israel, while extremely depressing, people still need to focus on extracting us much value as we can out of the rest of his presidency. If we could get a holy grail like ending birthright citizenship, then his terms won't have been wasted.
If there's one silver lining to this debacle, it is a very good litmus test. Anyone cheering this on is not on your side.
It's okay to come to the conclusion that Trump is compromised by Israel in some fashion, whether that be through some form of blackmail or just the fact that he is partial to them due to being a boomer with Jewish family members. But I maintain that anyone who genuinely thinks he is on the Epstein list might be retarded. All of the info surrounding Trump and that case points to the contrary. The only way one could delude oneself into believing it is if you think it's the only way they could ever convince, trick, or blackmail Trump to do their bidding, which is obviously ridiculous on its face; there are plenty of other reasonable explanations. Still a terrible thing, but he's not a blackmailed pedo.
The only way this doesn't result in massive blowback is if Iran exercises massive restraint and does not strike back in any meaningful way at the US, which seems unlikely. Kind of ironic, since this bullshit is predicated on the notion that Iran is so unrestrained that it cannot be trusted with nukes. Orange man is so dangerously close to pissing away the coalition he's built.
I mean, even if Trump descends fully into Bush tier neocon shittery, Kamala would have still been a worse choice. Hell, I would go so far as to say he could have run on neocon shittery and I would still conclude Kamala was worse for the country. I would hate it every step of the way, but that's how bad the democrats are right now. Like 10 million more illegals in 4 years of Kamala. At some point the country is just lost.
I'm sure this poster was fearmongering that tarriffs would cause hyper inflation and is conveniently ignoring the recent numbers that show inflation to be low.
It's not impossible. While of course seems very different now, Trump dropped a MOAB on Syria and assassinated Iranian generals during his first term.
The situation looks more grim of course but there is still a sliver of a chance it is very short term to bring about a desired result.
Keeping up the pressure to let him know the response from his base is overwhelmingly negative with regards to a conflict with Iran is the only thing that could move the needle. Dooming and glooming while this is far from over and decided does not help anyone.
Not directing that at you, just have seen a lot of it around.
EDIT: about an hour ago, Lindsay Graham was urging Trump to "be all in to help Israel." I really think, despite how bad it looks, that this is far from decided. The only person who knows what Trump will do at this point is Trump himself.
It's certainly possible, but at the same time that would require a whole lot of people to know that without the info leaking.
Orange man is retarded sometimes and, while seemingly having solid instincts, is very susceptible to bad advice if made by a snake who has weaseled into a position he trusts. But to his credit it seems massive backlash from his base can still move the needle.
Really hope Agriculture Secretary Rollins ends up on the streets soon. She was bragging about this decision when it was initially made, so it seems reasonable to assume it was at made at her urging.
Edit: Now I see someone posted this news earlier, but I will leave this up because this actually links the source article.
I sincerely wish he actually posted this.
I never said that, but keep putting words in my mouth. Just commented on the blatant strawman you erected.
I don't give a shit what Israel does so long as we aren't dragged into it. Given past history I think it's reasonable to be concerned that we will be.
like the way you guys say Ukraine started the war by talking to NATO.
Pretty sure the claim is generally that they started it by waging war against their ethnic Russian population, and by not respecting the Minsk Accords.
But yes, it's not hard to understand why making moves to join NATO would be extremely concerning from Russia's perspective, considering it has been promised over and over that NATO would not expand.
H1Bs decreased during his last administration. Do you have a good basis for claiming they will increase next year? Please note that authorizing a certain number of visas does not mean they will be filled. I agree it's bad either way but I think it's highly unlikely current deportations will be lower than annual H1Bs.
Not gonna read all that bullshit, especially when you start out on such a retarded note in the first paragraph. Eat less poisonous bullshit and you won't be a fat ass.
Chicken....sandwich?
Yeah but if you're really thoroughly looking for it, I would expect it to be noticeable. For something like this you'd just need to be able to fool the 99.9% of people who would never even think to look for it.