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AntonioOfVenice -6 points ago +2 / -8

I won't argue with you because it's pointless because I know who you are.

It doesn't matter who I am. Can you explain how it's in the interests of Europe and Europeans to be anti-Jew?

What I will say is this for anyone observing the conversation. Take a mental note. In 10 years, reevaluate where we are and the "progress" society has made. When in 10 years, we still haven't fixed the problems and it seems things are getting worse not better, remember this conversation thread. That is all.

Things never get better. You're not exactly a prophet for pointing that out. Of course, blaming it on 'the Jews' is... interesting.

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AntonioOfVenice 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm also aware of what happened to the AFD's polling immediately after the formation of the BSW was announced and the German media went all in on contrasting and attacking both parties. A significant number of BSW voters would have voted AFD in their absence.

Judging by the polling, not that many. Certainly not enough to change the results meaningfully. Which is why I point out that it's good to have two to appeal to different groups, rather than one.

Wagenknecht and her regional leaders chose to rule out a coalition with the AFD, the only other party that agrees with them on both of those issues, and instead pursue government formation with the establishment parties that have proven track records on both issues that are fundamentally at odds with the BSW's stated values.

Well, let's see what happens. I think it will be easier on the Land level as the issues of Ukraine and immigration are mostly not Land issues.

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AntonioOfVenice -6 points ago +2 / -8

Oh no, "merely" an anti-immigration party saving Europe rather than indulging your anti-Jew obsession.

Why should I care about your anti-Jew obsession again?

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AntonioOfVenice -6 points ago +1 / -7

The important question is whether they oppose the invasion of Europe.

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AntonioOfVenice -2 points ago +1 / -3

That was to be expected. The mistake you make is in assuming that all or even most BSW supporters would support the AfD if she weren't there. You don't know just how much the AfD has been demonized.

There is a far greater change of them going to the AfD if she disappoints them.

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AntonioOfVenice -3 points ago +1 / -4

Dag, couple of points:

(1) There is absolutely nothing strange about a half-Iranian opposing wokeness and immigration. If you care at all about the country you live in, you will oppose being flooded by violent, barbaric savages. I'm 0% rather than 50% European, and I don't want any immigrants.
(2) The private opinions of politicians matter little to nothing. They will do whatever benefits them. What do you think will happen if a party runs on anti-immigration platform and then fails to deliver? That's the worst case scenario. Then the voters move to the AfD - for whom a straight jump to the AfD would probably be too much.
(3) BSW is actually OK, better than the establishment, she takes votes from the establishment, and it's not promoted by the media to my knowledge, and she's attacked by Antifa. I take a more objective stance, and I'll take anti-establishment where I can find it.

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AntonioOfVenice -3 points ago +1 / -4

What specifically do you mean?

For the longest time, Israel denied that it ever expelled anyone, arguing that the Arabs who left did so because the Arab governments called on them to leave (which was partly true). Then historians like Benny Morris revealed the truth, namely that it did in certain instances.

Them lying doesn't matter. The truth does come out.

(downvote wasn't me)

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AntonioOfVenice 16 points ago +16 / -0

The sad thing is that these people descend from an unbroken line of winners.

Yet modernity has turned them into... this.

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AntonioOfVenice 1 point ago +1 / -0

So?

They normally use the courts to ban and criminalize their opponents. Doesn't mean it's going to work.

I wish they were that stupid.

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AntonioOfVenice -4 points ago +5 / -9

Jews kicked out no one from Lebanon.

Not even from so called Palestine. The Israeli independence declaration promised equal citizenship for people of all ethnicities and religions who live there. Only after their neighbors began a war against them did they kick people out, and even then some.

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AntonioOfVenice 25 points ago +25 / -0

That is not even a conspiracy theory, although the intent is not to make people hate environmentalists.

Big Oil and Gas funds environmentalists because they sabotage nuclear. E.g. Gazprom gave money to German environmentalists to have them support the Nord Stream pipeline Joe Biden blew up. Their stated reason was because gas is needed for their 'energy transition' and for moving away from nuclear.

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AntonioOfVenice 1 point ago +6 / -5

Of course not. It 'sprang up' because of the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, which in turn was the result of the PLO being stationed there.

Even so, supposing that Israel was completely to blame for everything, including the founding of Hezbollah, you cannot seriously argue that you think Israel should just take rocket fire into all of northern Israel.

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AntonioOfVenice 7 points ago +8 / -1

This never works. And in the case of Germany, it will backfire massively. That's why I think they won't.

All that will happen is that they will create a new party under a new name, and then they will also be able to even more effectively point out that the German government is about as democratic as a certain earlier one.

Example: the fascist state called Belgium banned the Flemish Block in 2004. That year, the Flemish Block got 24% of the vote in Flanders. Next election, the refounded party lost due to a more moderate nationalist party rising - but together they got 28%. This year, the party got 23%, and got 46% along with the other party. Together, they hold exactly half the seats in the Flemish parliament.

So don't despair, that is the greatest of sins.

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AntonioOfVenice -5 points ago +7 / -12

Even for those who are anti-Israel, attacking an organization like Hezbollah that is making a large part of northern Israel uninhabitable should not be a surprise.

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AntonioOfVenice 2 points ago +5 / -3

Sub heading:

Projections from public broadcasters based on exit polls suggest that the pro-Russia, anti-immigration Freedom Party, or FPÖ, has finished first with 29.1% of the vote.

First paragraph:

A far-right party founded by former Nazis appeared to have won Austria’s election Sunday, in a result that could reshape Europe’s political landscape and help tilt the balance of power between Russia and the West.

Tell us what you really think, NBC.

Like other far-right leaders, he has capitalized on high inflation as well as Europe’s migration crisis, in which hundreds of thousands of people have fled war, poverty and natural disasters in the Middle East, North Africa and beyond.

I love how these journo-terrorists just casually admit that people "fled...poverty", i.e. they are economic migrants. And isn't it interesting that if people are concerned about something, and you address their concerns, it's "capitalizing" on something? You should ignore it and get plaudits from the media.

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AntonioOfVenice 13 points ago +13 / -0

So was this an engineering experiment that went wrong or was it a medical experiment?

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AntonioOfVenice 1 point ago +1 / -0

It is an actual belief for the masses. Not for the ones at the top but it is extremely unlikely that the heads of church were any different in that regard.

I think that was largely different. Even if you take the most notorious examples, the Borgias, they did actually believe in the religion.

As for the masses, I don't think anyone actually believes that "hate speech" leads to mass murder. Even those who do, don't believe that a single instance of "hate speech" does, as heresy did for the medievals.

It is one thing to not buy into the over the top story of the Inquisition running around Europe and burning everyone but to pretend the extreme opposite is just as ridiculous.

Well no, they were 'burning people'. My point is that they were no doing so with glee, but rather trying rather hard to not kill people. Their aim was almost always to, as they saw it, save the soul of the so called heretic. I see that as being quite different from modern wokeists, where the cruelty often is the point.

Execution was regarded as a failure on their part.

That's all. I'm not saying "they were good guys", or whatever you might think.

But even if you backed down it didn't mean to you wouldn't end up in prison for a long time. Just as today.

True. I do view things differently in a premodern, pre-industrialized society which was heavily religious and actually took religion seriously.

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AntonioOfVenice 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wow, that is pure cringe. I'd represent myself before I'd hire an attorney with pronouns in his bio.

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AntonioOfVenice 3 points ago +3 / -0

Suburban houses in NA are really great, even 'poor people' have great homes. But are the apartments really that big?

From my personal experience, a similar apartment to mine costs 3 times as much in a not-NYC US city. God knows how they manage it, housing is a disaster where I live. So I think it's just "they can pay more so let's charge them more", like with the tickets.

I'm not being chauvinistic when I say that I'd rather live here than there, at least if these were the only considerations.

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AntonioOfVenice 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, they also pay more for business class tickets, it seems - or even normal tickets. So that in part makes up purchasing power for poverty.

Also, I'm European and I don't like them much. But they're in charge of the green paper production mills, so they have a lot more money on paper.

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AntonioOfVenice 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hence why I called this unsubstantiated. I searched for his name along with 'immigration', and there was nothing about his immigration ideas, at least in English. I doubt some 4chan location spoofer knows anything more.

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