No, I don't think proud boys is fed. You know why? They are straight up about what they are, what they do, how they are characterized in the media is just like how Donald Trump is or MAGA, totally mischaracterized. They don't show up for these perfectly photographed photo ops, they don't cover their face.
Other groups I don't think are feds are things where when you have ideas, you say them proudly like the anti-Muslim marches in England. There the English citizens were openly proud of their nation and proudly said Islam has no place here and that's a country without free speech, so the fact that they showed up in huge droves even further passes the smell test. There's a reason MAGA and proud boys don't wear masks and say their opinions straight up. Because they're not ashamed of their opinions. And they say, everytime you lie about us, you vindicate us.
Patriot front is the most mysterious group that no one knows exactly what they're about, they get wheeled out for perfect little photo ops now and then that perfectly fit the mainstream narrative, etc.
It's called discernment. If you can't see some bullcrap when you see it, then that's not my problem.
They don't show up for these perfectly photographed photo ops, they don't cover their face.
Do you know how many journalists and photographers live and hang out in D.C?
There's a reason MAGA and proud boys don't wear masks and say their opinions straight up. Because they're not ashamed of their opinions. And they say, everytime you lie about us, you vindicate us.
Post your full name and face here, then instead of demanding that white men put their job and families on the line.
Patriot front is the most mysterious group that no one knows exactly what they're about, they get wheeled out for perfect little photo ops now and then that perfectly fit the mainstream narrative, etc.
Translation: if it isn't plastered all over the front page of X, it doesn't exist to me because I'm a lazy faggot that can't be bothered to do 5 minutes of research. Thomas has done countless interviews and there is a website and telegram channel where you can figure all of this out.
The Internet rules have nothing to do with politics and have been around since the 90s or earlierm
If Elon Musk is operating as a person in the public, he shows his face and stands by his opinions. Elon Musk also likely has anonymous accounts on the Internet where he's not stupid enough to announce his name and location. He has his public accounts and his private accounts.
The anonymity of the Internet was not about being cancelled for politics but had to do with the same sort of safety procedures that prevent identity theft and is just common sense behavior.
Anthony Cumia had millions of dollars to lose as a public figure and he did lose it, but that didn't stop him from sharing his racial opinions despite knowing the risk.... why, because he believed in them.
Do you think these patriot front people have more to lose than a guy who was making multi millions on a PR concerned Sirius XM radio show? Is their reputation and what they believe so much more inflammatory than Anthony Cumia and their livelihood so much more valuable that they need to be masked up at all times? The only people I see wear masks are terrorists, antifa and criminals.
The one exception is people like ICE but the difference is they're dealing with cartel. Leftists aren't even their biggest concern if ice is unmasked, it's the cartel.
Patriot Front does not share the same cartel risk.
No one is supposed to share their name or face on the Internet even if you have Mr Rogers political beliefs and it has nothing to do with being part of a political movement.
In the real world when I believe something, I don't hide. Even Neo Nazis show their face. You can go to a neo Nazi compound right now and they'll gladly show you their SS and Swastika tattoos. In fact, they're practically giddy to tell you their beliefs from ones I've encountered. If even Neo Nazis don't hide, but will explain why they believe what they believe then I am highly suspicious of Patriot Front.
Elon Musk is operating as a person in the public, he shows his face and stands by his opinions.
You know who Thomas Rousseau is, no?
Anthony Cumia had millions of dollars to lose as a public figure and he did lose it, but that didn't stop him from sharing his racial opinions despite knowing the risk.... why, because he believed in them.
And yet you still post behind an anonymous account while using Reddit tier mental gymnastics to justify why it's different.
Since when is that the litmus test that proves someone's not a fed. The debate over if Andrew Tate is a fed planted psy-op, or Nick Fuentes, or Richard Spencer or even Alex Jones has raged on forever despite having been on or even owning radio shows and podcasts. So one guy being on a podcast proves their not a fed, but in all other cases, this doesn't apply. "Alex Jones is controlled opposition", yet he's been public forever, but one guy is the face of an organization and that's evidence it's not a fed or psyop?
And if their organization is so dedicated to the idea of anonynimity, why is their leader such a bucker of the trend? Does he have nothing to lose, while the others do? lf their supposed leader being on podcasts is evidence that the entire group is legitimate, then no one here can ever claim any of these people you're suspicious of are "Jew plants" or whatever else you say.
People here will simultaneously assent to the proven fact that whenever white people try to organize even for the most benign reasons, within weeks, 60% of that group will have been supplanted by feds who won't allow it to happen and you'll inevitably lead to them trying to force something like a "kidnap governor witmer" plot, but then will turn around and say Patriot Front is legit because a single guy shows his face and talks about it.
So the FBI is crafty enough to infiltrate plain clothes people who show their face (which they are) but not crafty enough to create a honeypot organization where people hide their face.
No doubt all pro white organizations are Fed infiltrated, but I see that as different than "being Feds.". I think it's fine that Rousseau is the face of the group, and the hundreds of others represent the the silent majority.
Careful, u/Unknownsailor might launch into an attack with you saying that, though I wonder if he only does it for obvious fed groups like patriot front.
Diversity quotas?
If they were feds they would be all white as a diversity quota would break the narrative they're trying to propagate about "white people being the threat to the west".
Just like how MRA has tons of women, when you allow true diversity of opinion you get a motley crew of people.
Patriot front is the most mysterious group that no one knows exactly what they're about, they get wheeled out for perfect little photo ops now and then that perfectly fit the mainstream narrative, etc.
They do have operations manuals which have been leaked. If they were legit, they appear to be acting as a pooling and legal recruiting/training. It would be a very poor strategic move to have this many people as a honeypot because you're guaranteeing splinter groups.
If PF was a typical Fed outfit, some of their members would’ve done something seriously illegal by now, the Fed leadership in PF would’ve entrapped a few random useful idiots who joined up thinking PF was a legit WN group, the leaders would’ve planned an attack on some jews/minoritiesc then they would’ve sent those idiots to carry the attack out, maybe even convince them to bomb a target only to be busted just before they can pull it off….sometimes the Fed’s will just let the crime happen, or they’ll do it themselves and pin it on a patsy in order to justify new anti-terrorism laws, but even if they busted the useful idiots just before the terrorist act or hate crime could be carried out, it would still enough to run a massive propaganda campaign against all WN groups, saying look at these terrorist WN hate groups plotting to kill innocent Americans, we need to do something about them before they’re successful.
Here’s the thing about PF, they have been around for quite some time and they’ve never done anything remotely illegal, which indicates that they are legit. All PF has ever done publicly is charity work and going out to exercise their right to peacefully protest in a “shocking” high visibility way in order to attract new members. Their goal isn’t to fight, not yet at least, their goal is to build that highly visible IRL network of race conscious strong White men so we have the ability to fight in the future IF shit ever does go kinetic. The reason they aren’t fat fucks is because they take vetting seriously, not just vetting for Fed infiltrators/informants, but they don’t allow out of shape Whites into their group because that body type says a lot about the potential member’s character, and what it says is that they don’t care about themselves so how could you expect them to care about the future of our race and nation? They don’t want weakness, PF wants strong men who have discipline and/or leadership skills, those are the guys who will attract other White men to join and take a White advocacy serious. I like PF, the founder seems like a good dude, and what I see is that he’s normalizing the idea that you don’t have to be afraid to join an active club of White Nationalists. Not only should we support PF, we should be striving to become members in PF or some other active club if we meet the requirements. Personally, I’m too old to join PF, even though I’m in reasonably good shape, and they may make an exception for me, I wanna say the cutoff for membership is like 36 or some shit, I can’t remember what Thomas said.…If I was younger I would be doing all I could to join an active club like PF, and I hope Gen Z and Gen A White males do exactly that, our people need to see large groups of strong White men organizing in public, not as a drinking club or whatever, but as a legitimate White advocacy group who is asserting that they aren’t afraid to stand up for their people out in public even if they do so intelligently with masks on, just so anti-White Jewish groups can’t doxx and destroy individual member’s lives which would cause other Whites to be afraid to join up. Just remember, IF you ever do join an active club of WN’s and you hear members talking about doing some illegal shit, it’s time to leave because they more than likely are Feds trying to set your ass up. Thomas has blatantly said that sort of talk is forbidden in PF, members will get booted for breaking that rule, PF already faces a lot of Fed scrutiny as it is, they’re not about to risk being disbanded under anti-terrorism laws because one of their members says/does something stupid.
Congratulations, you are thoroughly conditioned to mock and ridicule any organized group that is nominally right wing.
Flap your f***ing flippers and bark "Fed!" some more. No one but you is listening.
You will never get off your couch and do anything to stop the destruction of your culture, your lands, and your people.
No, I don't think proud boys is fed. You know why? They are straight up about what they are, what they do, how they are characterized in the media is just like how Donald Trump is or MAGA, totally mischaracterized. They don't show up for these perfectly photographed photo ops, they don't cover their face.
Other groups I don't think are feds are things where when you have ideas, you say them proudly like the anti-Muslim marches in England. There the English citizens were openly proud of their nation and proudly said Islam has no place here and that's a country without free speech, so the fact that they showed up in huge droves even further passes the smell test. There's a reason MAGA and proud boys don't wear masks and say their opinions straight up. Because they're not ashamed of their opinions. And they say, everytime you lie about us, you vindicate us.
Patriot front is the most mysterious group that no one knows exactly what they're about, they get wheeled out for perfect little photo ops now and then that perfectly fit the mainstream narrative, etc.
It's called discernment. If you can't see some bullcrap when you see it, then that's not my problem.
Do you know how many journalists and photographers live and hang out in D.C?
Post your full name and face here, then instead of demanding that white men put their job and families on the line.
Translation: if it isn't plastered all over the front page of X, it doesn't exist to me because I'm a lazy faggot that can't be bothered to do 5 minutes of research. Thomas has done countless interviews and there is a website and telegram channel where you can figure all of this out.
"post your full name and face on here"
The Internet rules have nothing to do with politics and have been around since the 90s or earlierm
If Elon Musk is operating as a person in the public, he shows his face and stands by his opinions. Elon Musk also likely has anonymous accounts on the Internet where he's not stupid enough to announce his name and location. He has his public accounts and his private accounts.
The anonymity of the Internet was not about being cancelled for politics but had to do with the same sort of safety procedures that prevent identity theft and is just common sense behavior.
Anthony Cumia had millions of dollars to lose as a public figure and he did lose it, but that didn't stop him from sharing his racial opinions despite knowing the risk.... why, because he believed in them.
Do you think these patriot front people have more to lose than a guy who was making multi millions on a PR concerned Sirius XM radio show? Is their reputation and what they believe so much more inflammatory than Anthony Cumia and their livelihood so much more valuable that they need to be masked up at all times? The only people I see wear masks are terrorists, antifa and criminals.
The one exception is people like ICE but the difference is they're dealing with cartel. Leftists aren't even their biggest concern if ice is unmasked, it's the cartel.
Patriot Front does not share the same cartel risk.
No one is supposed to share their name or face on the Internet even if you have Mr Rogers political beliefs and it has nothing to do with being part of a political movement.
In the real world when I believe something, I don't hide. Even Neo Nazis show their face. You can go to a neo Nazi compound right now and they'll gladly show you their SS and Swastika tattoos. In fact, they're practically giddy to tell you their beliefs from ones I've encountered. If even Neo Nazis don't hide, but will explain why they believe what they believe then I am highly suspicious of Patriot Front.
You know who Thomas Rousseau is, no?
And yet you still post behind an anonymous account while using Reddit tier mental gymnastics to justify why it's different.
The PF organizer has been on numerous podcasts discussing who they are and what they do. If you think they are mysterious, that is a you problem.
Since when is that the litmus test that proves someone's not a fed. The debate over if Andrew Tate is a fed planted psy-op, or Nick Fuentes, or Richard Spencer or even Alex Jones has raged on forever despite having been on or even owning radio shows and podcasts. So one guy being on a podcast proves their not a fed, but in all other cases, this doesn't apply. "Alex Jones is controlled opposition", yet he's been public forever, but one guy is the face of an organization and that's evidence it's not a fed or psyop?
And if their organization is so dedicated to the idea of anonynimity, why is their leader such a bucker of the trend? Does he have nothing to lose, while the others do? lf their supposed leader being on podcasts is evidence that the entire group is legitimate, then no one here can ever claim any of these people you're suspicious of are "Jew plants" or whatever else you say.
People here will simultaneously assent to the proven fact that whenever white people try to organize even for the most benign reasons, within weeks, 60% of that group will have been supplanted by feds who won't allow it to happen and you'll inevitably lead to them trying to force something like a "kidnap governor witmer" plot, but then will turn around and say Patriot Front is legit because a single guy shows his face and talks about it.
So the FBI is crafty enough to infiltrate plain clothes people who show their face (which they are) but not crafty enough to create a honeypot organization where people hide their face.
That's interesting to me.
No doubt all pro white organizations are Fed infiltrated, but I see that as different than "being Feds.". I think it's fine that Rousseau is the face of the group, and the hundreds of others represent the the silent majority.
Proud Boys are fed. That why they have to meet diversity requirements.
Careful, u/Unknownsailor might launch into an attack with you saying that, though I wonder if he only does it for obvious fed groups like patriot front.
Diversity quotas?
If they were feds they would be all white as a diversity quota would break the narrative they're trying to propagate about "white people being the threat to the west".
Just like how MRA has tons of women, when you allow true diversity of opinion you get a motley crew of people.
Defeats the purpose of the right. Diversity is EVIL.
They do have operations manuals which have been leaked. If they were legit, they appear to be acting as a pooling and legal recruiting/training. It would be a very poor strategic move to have this many people as a honeypot because you're guaranteeing splinter groups.
If PF was a typical Fed outfit, some of their members would’ve done something seriously illegal by now, the Fed leadership in PF would’ve entrapped a few random useful idiots who joined up thinking PF was a legit WN group, the leaders would’ve planned an attack on some jews/minoritiesc then they would’ve sent those idiots to carry the attack out, maybe even convince them to bomb a target only to be busted just before they can pull it off….sometimes the Fed’s will just let the crime happen, or they’ll do it themselves and pin it on a patsy in order to justify new anti-terrorism laws, but even if they busted the useful idiots just before the terrorist act or hate crime could be carried out, it would still enough to run a massive propaganda campaign against all WN groups, saying look at these terrorist WN hate groups plotting to kill innocent Americans, we need to do something about them before they’re successful.
Here’s the thing about PF, they have been around for quite some time and they’ve never done anything remotely illegal, which indicates that they are legit. All PF has ever done publicly is charity work and going out to exercise their right to peacefully protest in a “shocking” high visibility way in order to attract new members. Their goal isn’t to fight, not yet at least, their goal is to build that highly visible IRL network of race conscious strong White men so we have the ability to fight in the future IF shit ever does go kinetic. The reason they aren’t fat fucks is because they take vetting seriously, not just vetting for Fed infiltrators/informants, but they don’t allow out of shape Whites into their group because that body type says a lot about the potential member’s character, and what it says is that they don’t care about themselves so how could you expect them to care about the future of our race and nation? They don’t want weakness, PF wants strong men who have discipline and/or leadership skills, those are the guys who will attract other White men to join and take a White advocacy serious. I like PF, the founder seems like a good dude, and what I see is that he’s normalizing the idea that you don’t have to be afraid to join an active club of White Nationalists. Not only should we support PF, we should be striving to become members in PF or some other active club if we meet the requirements. Personally, I’m too old to join PF, even though I’m in reasonably good shape, and they may make an exception for me, I wanna say the cutoff for membership is like 36 or some shit, I can’t remember what Thomas said.…If I was younger I would be doing all I could to join an active club like PF, and I hope Gen Z and Gen A White males do exactly that, our people need to see large groups of strong White men organizing in public, not as a drinking club or whatever, but as a legitimate White advocacy group who is asserting that they aren’t afraid to stand up for their people out in public even if they do so intelligently with masks on, just so anti-White Jewish groups can’t doxx and destroy individual member’s lives which would cause other Whites to be afraid to join up. Just remember, IF you ever do join an active club of WN’s and you hear members talking about doing some illegal shit, it’s time to leave because they more than likely are Feds trying to set your ass up. Thomas has blatantly said that sort of talk is forbidden in PF, members will get booted for breaking that rule, PF already faces a lot of Fed scrutiny as it is, they’re not about to risk being disbanded under anti-terrorism laws because one of their members says/does something stupid.