So organically staged. Not a psyop at all!
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No, I don't think proud boys is fed. You know why? They are straight up about what they are, what they do, how they are characterized in the media is just like how Donald Trump is or MAGA, totally mischaracterized. They don't show up for these perfectly photographed photo ops, they don't cover their face.
Other groups I don't think are feds are things where when you have ideas, you say them proudly like the anti-Muslim marches in England. There the English citizens were openly proud of their nation and proudly said Islam has no place here and that's a country without free speech, so the fact that they showed up in huge droves even further passes the smell test. There's a reason MAGA and proud boys don't wear masks and say their opinions straight up. Because they're not ashamed of their opinions. And they say, everytime you lie about us, you vindicate us.
Patriot front is the most mysterious group that no one knows exactly what they're about, they get wheeled out for perfect little photo ops now and then that perfectly fit the mainstream narrative, etc.
It's called discernment. If you can't see some bullcrap when you see it, then that's not my problem.
Do you know how many journos and photographers live and hang out in D.C?
Post your full name and face here, then instead of demanding that white men actually doing something put their careers and families on the line.
Translation: if it isn't plastered all over the front page of X, it doesn't exist to me because I'm a lazy faggot that can't be bothered to do 5 minutes of research. Thomas has done countless interviews and there is a website and telegram channel where you can figure all of this out.
"post your full name and face on here"
The Internet rules have nothing to do with politics and have been around since the 90s or earlierm
If Elon Musk is operating as a person in the public, he shows his face and stands by his opinions. Elon Musk also likely has anonymous accounts on the Internet where he's not stupid enough to announce his name and location. He has his public accounts and his private accounts.
The anonymity of the Internet was not about being cancelled for politics but had to do with the same sort of safety procedures that prevent identity theft and is just common sense behavior.
Anthony Cumia had millions of dollars to lose as a public figure and he did lose it, but that didn't stop him from sharing his racial opinions despite knowing the risk.... why, because he believed in them.
Do you think these patriot front people have more to lose than a guy who was making multi millions on a PR concerned Sirius XM radio show? Is their reputation and what they believe so much more inflammatory than Anthony Cumia and their livelihood so much more valuable that they need to be masked up at all times? The only people I see wear masks are terrorists, antifa and criminals.
The one exception is people like ICE but the difference is they're dealing with cartel. Leftists aren't even their biggest concern if ice is unmasked, it's the cartel.
Patriot Front does not share the same cartel risk.
No one is supposed to share their name or face on the Internet even if you have Mr Rogers political beliefs and it has nothing to do with being part of a political movement.
In the real world when I believe something, I don't hide. Even Neo Nazis show their face. You can go to a neo Nazi compound right now and they'll gladly show you their SS and Swastika tattoos. In fact, they're practically giddy to tell you their beliefs from ones I've encountered. If even Neo Nazis don't hide, but will explain why they believe what they believe then I am highly suspicious of Patriot Front.
You know who Thomas Rousseau is, no?
And yet you still post behind an anonymous account while using Reddit tier mental gymnastics to justify why it's different.
On Reddit I have an anonymous account and never share any political opinions on Reddit because I know they'd just get me banned immediately. So why is my account anonymous on Reddit? Because that's the internet.
When I had my facebook account with my full first and last name, I shared my political beliefs, ranted about the gay agenda and things of that nature, my religious beliefs, etc. I didn't hide my beliefs when my name and face was on facebook.
For a short time it was foolishly seen as acceptable to have your name and face out there such as places like Facebook, but my lack of anonymity didn't stop me saying what I believed anymore than it stops me here.
The reason I don't post my name and face here is the same reason some Joe schmo on a video game forum who is a political normie and just wants to talk about his favorite RPG's doesn't post his name and face. It's just not what you do. It has nothing to do with politics.
And you should learn something from Anthony cumia’s situation, he’s not even a White Nationalist and he got fucked for speaking his mind simply because there was a little bit of overlap between his views and those that come from actual WN’s, lucky for Anthony, he’s rich enough to weather the storm and be okay in the end, most young Whites aren’t that wealthy.. Whites have no political power, the system is dead set on destroying Whites and especially White Nationalists, because WN’s are the only real threat to the Jewish subverted system. If you care about your race and the nation your people built (assuming you’re White?) you need to be doing everything in your power to promote and normalize Whites standing up against the attack on our people and on our homeland’s, but you have to be aware that the system is going to come at you full force if it can, so for now at least, it’s important to maintain anonymity when possible. Patriot Front has figured out how to be an active club who promotes the preservation of White America publicly, while forming IRL networks that hold the potential to be the backbone of a real resistance movement in the future, and they’re able to do so while maintaining anonymity for their members……that’s intelligent, that allows membership to grow, whereas being out in the open showing your face leads to doxxing and a serious stigma about joining that group, which means you won’t get good stock Whites joining your group/movement, it’ll only be the Whites who have nothing left to lose which tend to be the lowest class Whites, and your group/movement certainly isn’t gonna grow or ever accomplish anything important.. It’s one thing if you’re group is led by a Mexican like the proud goys, and it’s basically just a civic nationalist drinking club that allows anyone to join, the odds that members will have their lives destroyed just for being in or around that group is far less than someone faces if they join a legit WN group. Civic nationalism is for faggots and it holds no potential to save this nation even if it was to grow so big that it gained political power, they’re ignoring the fact that the races are very different, they have different interests, and those interests simply do not align with what traditional America was because traditional America was based on White values and White character traits, not those of Mexicans, blacks or Jew etc.
While I can see the value of anonymity, even if I don't fully agree with it; their uniform is counter-productive.
Their uniform looks like a mix of KKK with the white face mask and a paramilitary. They look like how a fictional movie would portray a "right wing militia".
If they want their ideas to be heard and accepted, there are better ways than looking like a movie studio take on what a white nationalist who's covering their face would come up with.
Have a outfit that evokes 1776 and patriotism, not a military force.
Anytime people wear stuff that evokes military we file them away as militants and people to avoid. This is true also of communist revolutionaries who wear a beret on their college campus in the 1960s and are trying to tell you the socialists have the right idea as their military jacket has black panther patches and whatnot.
It's just not productive. You know why Jared Taylor is effective? Because they'd love for Jared Taylor to seem extreme and indeed his ideas are extreme in terms of the current overton window. But he presents his ideas calmly, explains the logic of them, and does it with a smile. So people can write him off as a "racist" but they still go home with their tail tucked between their legs because they couldn't dismantle his arguments nor could they find any issues with his conduct.
The problem with the patriot front isn't merely that they're anonymous. There's many bloggers, tweeters, etc who remain anonymous sharing controversial ideas until they get doxxed and then sometimes still after getting doxxed, and some who never get doxxed. Anonymity isn't the main issue. It's the way they choose to be anonymous feels too convenient to the mainstream media views about the right.
The PF organizer has been on numerous podcasts discussing who they are and what they do. If you think they are mysterious, that is a you problem.
Since when is that the litmus test that proves someone's not a fed. The debate over if Andrew Tate is a fed planted psy-op, or Nick Fuentes, or Richard Spencer or even Alex Jones has raged on forever despite having been on or even owning radio shows and podcasts. So one guy being on a podcast proves their not a fed, but in all other cases, this doesn't apply. "Alex Jones is controlled opposition", yet he's been public forever, but one guy is the face of an organization and that's evidence it's not a fed or psyop?
And if their organization is so dedicated to the idea of anonynimity, why is their leader such a bucker of the trend? Does he have nothing to lose, while the others do? lf their supposed leader being on podcasts is evidence that the entire group is legitimate, then no one here can ever claim any of these people you're suspicious of are "Jew plants" or whatever else you say.
People here will simultaneously assent to the proven fact that whenever white people try to organize even for the most benign reasons, within weeks, 60% of that group will have been supplanted by feds who won't allow it to happen and you'll inevitably lead to them trying to force something like a "kidnap governor witmer" plot, but then will turn around and say Patriot Front is legit because a single guy shows his face and talks about it.
So the FBI is crafty enough to infiltrate plain clothes people who show their face (which they are) but not crafty enough to create a honeypot organization where people hide their face.
That's interesting to me.
No doubt all pro white organizations are Fed infiltrated, but I see that as different than "being Feds.". I think it's fine that Rousseau is the face of the group, and the hundreds of others represent the the silent majority.
I mean remember the Whitmer 'kidnapping' attempt, insert the spiderman meme of how many were feds in that...
The feds have a vested interest to keep the right wing in groups and then discredited. Because if they aren't and can go lone wolf, half of a federal building is lost.
No one claimed this except for you. You were claiming that PF is a mysterious group that nobody knows anything about.
Still waiting for you to post your full name and face here by the way. Why are you hiding behind a digital mask, fed?
Proud Boys are fed. That why they have to meet diversity requirements.
Careful, u/Unknownsailor might launch into an attack with you saying that, though I wonder if he only does it for obvious fed groups like patriot front.
Diversity quotas?
If they were feds they would be all white as a diversity quota would break the narrative they're trying to propagate about "white people being the threat to the west".
Just like how MRA has tons of women, when you allow true diversity of opinion you get a motley crew of people.
Defeats the purpose of the right. Diversity is EVIL.
Opinions are generally useless and ones on non-trivial societal matters are largely inculcated by cultural consensus or derived directly from moral frameworks. Too much diversity there just means you're no longer culturally homogenous and are therefore weaker.
But diversity of new ideas is always important to growing stronger and wiser. And I say specifically new ideas because you're supposed to weigh them up and test them with rigor. Then eventually you can pick the one that performs best and commit to it over the other current options, instead of hand wringing forever or flip-flopping constantly.
They do have operations manuals which have been leaked. If they were legit, they appear to be acting as a pooling and legal recruiting/training. It would be a very poor strategic move to have this many people as a honeypot because you're guaranteeing splinter groups.
If the PF was Feds (and they are!) they'd WANT "splinter groups" to have actual people to "investigate" infiltrate and arrest.
But they can't even find actual "right wing" groups without Feds creating them and SPLC funding them.
Why have they been in operation for 10 years without any arrests?
Because they're Feds? You mean aside from that?
They did set up a few "members" for a show a while back. Some non-feds they tricked into joining for the purpose of getting them arrested. Those few looked nothing like the rest of the PF crew.
Their nigger leader was a literal federal informant.
https://apnews.com/article/proud-boys-enrique-tarrio-capitol-riot-informant-ce0a1cf20c17c95b1ea3306fb70d93c4
If you spent five minutes on your search engine of choice instead of repeating ideas from q-tard memes, you'd know they're an offshoot of an older group, Vanguard America, which mostly fell apart after Charlottesville. They wear masks to avoid ending up like James Fields or the various VA members who were doxxed at Charlottesville and lost their jobs. Because openly advocating for the good of the White race is dangerous.