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Microsoft revokes Office 2019 perpetual licenses, then edits their website to gaslight customers. (youtu.be)
posted 22 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend 22 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend +52 / -0
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– ApexVeritas 27 points 22 days ago +27 / -0

A friendly reminder that Libre Office is free, open source, and works just like Microsoft Office.

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– Questionable 10 points 22 days ago +10 / -0

https://www.libreoffice.org/

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– OmegaBird 4 points 22 days ago +4 / -0

Been using for years, I will never go back.

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– RoulerBleu 3 points 21 days ago +3 / -0

The files are even cross-compatible with Office.

I don't even accept the ''one year free trial'' for Microsoft Office on new electronics.

Libre office works, is free, and isn't filled with Microsoft AIDS.

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– m0r1arty 23 points 22 days ago +23 / -0

On the flipside Microsoft did justify piracy...so there's that...

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– OmegaBird 12 points 22 days ago +12 / -0

lol. No kidding. Man I'm glad I don't use anything but the OS 10, which I've heavily modified to work as in the background as windows 98. Registry edits, group policy tweaks, and other changes to make the OS completely subservient. I'll never buy another Microshits product again.

Once SteamOS fully releases and win10 is as obsolete as windows 7, only then will I switch to the SteamOS.

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– fauxgnaws 10 points 22 days ago +10 / -0

Windows 10 LTSC until 2032. No Windows Store, no Cortana, no ads.

Best thing is it doesn't change.

I don't want to one day have the entire UI swapped on me where now it's designed around AI watching my webcam so I can use hand gestures to go back a webpage. I don't want every panel to be 20% translucent.

Every time anybody changes the Windows, Icons, Menus, and Pointer interface they make it worse.

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– I_Miss_Imp 1 point 22 days ago +1 / -0

Where would one be able to find a win10 LTSC without giving jeetrosoft another dime? Have you had any issues with any compatibility of certain software for win11 or does it all map over? I’m somewhat ignorant of how backwards compatible win11 is to win10.

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– fauxgnaws 3 points 22 days ago +3 / -0

massgrave.dev

You can have it do hardware activation, then you wipe drive and reinstall from ISO. Lots of other options.

The IoT LTSC is good until 2032. ISO isn't public from Microsoft but when I did it the mirrors all agreed on the hash so probably is legit.

The only problems I've had are no clock on the lock screen, but there's probably some games that break or will in the future years - I'll just use linux if that happens.

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– MargarineMongoose 1 point 21 days ago +1 / -0

Clock works on mine and I don't recall doing anything to get that working.

I'll say that I don't expect game compatibility issues for a good long while given just how long I was able to get away with Windows 7.

IIRC I found the ISO over on the MyDigitalLife forum, so go snoop there and there's a few other guides floating around on how to get started with it.

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– fauxgnaws 1 point 21 days ago +1 / -0

Internet of Things edition doesn't have the app store so no clock, timer, etc. Calculator is old school.

You might have a different edition converted to IoT product id to get support.

I'd rather it be official just in case, even though I expect MS to put effort into even keeping normal home edition safely working; anybody still on Win 10 going to linux as soon as anything goes wrong.

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– m0r1arty 4 points 22 days ago +4 / -0

Linux Mint is a sweet alternative to try until SteamOS. Based on the same architecture (More or less) and will likely be in more homes soon due to MS' constant screwing around with being outside the Window and not the bouncer to looking out of it xD

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– RoulerBleu 2 points 21 days ago +2 / -0

I'm trying Linux Mint Xfce on an old craptop, but it has a few bugs. Nothing system-breaking. It's usable after figuring how to avoid tripping on them.

I have no interest in learning how to use commands. All ''fixes'' I could find involved using commands and none of the copy-pasted fixes worked.

Might try the ''normal'' ( Cinnamon ) Mint version to see if it had less problems with my old laptop. I'm pretty sure it can run it fine but I wanted to aim to make it as fast as something with a mechanical hard drive can go.

Worth a try. The thing was headed for recycling anyway.

Oh and the mandatory long complex password is so annoying. Thankfully you can dissable having to input it when the computer wakes from sleep.

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– m0r1arty 1 point 21 days ago +1 / -0

Oddly enough most of my Linux Mint training comes from running problems by Copilot xD

Not kidding, it's a useful tool and understands why people are shifting to Linux from Windows (No sales or inferences of it being a bad decision - yet anyways).

Had the odd sound driver bug and a few others, but Copilot gives good clean advice to help sort it out (It can still be a bit hit and miss to the solution, but it gets there with persistence).

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– OmegaBird 2 points 22 days ago +2 / -0

I already use that on my laptop

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– cccpneveragain 13 points 22 days ago +13 / -0

A couple guys I know mega corp just got rid of Microsoft Office to save money. We are talking Fortune 500 size business. Now the of course replaced it with Google which is just as bad and total shit to use, but it’s still interesting to see a company that size turn on Microsoft.

LibreOffice is quite nice. I’ve been Linux desktop for 8ish years now. Linux gaming for about a year. I love Linux gaming. Old games that windows hates usually easier to get going, stuff I bought in Steam just works and GOG close behind. I never mess with drivers and crap at all, although I hear Nvidia people have a much different experience.

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– WeedleTLiar 7 points 22 days ago +7 / -0

I gather there are power features that MS has which makes it appealing for big businesses (although I've never used them) but why do governments use MS? They don't give a flaming fart about compatibility or efficiency so why don't they all go with the free option by default?

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– ParadigmShift2070 6 points 22 days ago +6 / -0

Free softwares have liability issues with government agencies and big corpos. If something went wrong, they need clear definitions for who is responsible for what happened and be punishable/accountable for such (whether they can do it is another matter).

Free softwares have those "use it at your own risk" clauses also since it was given free without exchange of values, there's no valid contract that requires the software company to perform certain functions or have post sales updates/services. Even if big corpos don't want to use Microsoft, they'd still pay some companies to make custom softwares where the requirements and responsibilities are clearly defined instead of using free softwares that nobody's there to take responsibility or resolve issues when something went wrong.

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– cccpneveragain 5 points 22 days ago +5 / -0

I've used the LibreOffice Calc (Excel) the most. Honestly I'd be shocked if it's not enough for 99% of business use case. It's a bit different though. A bit ten years ago in design. In a good way in my opinion, but if you hand that to someone who lives in Excel they'd bitch about the differences. If there's big corps pushing to Google Sheets though, that cat is already getting let out of the bag.

I suspect the PowerPoint copy is kinda mediocre. Honestly, I've really never launched it.

If I was suggesting a home or light office user wanting a place to keep budget spreadsheets and do a few docs, etc. Don't even waste time pirating MS Office. Libre is fine. Or there's OpenOffice too, I used that a long time ago.

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– SR388-SAX 4 points 22 days ago +4 / -0

so why don't they all go with the free option by default?

It's not their money, why do they care if they have to spend it?

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– HallucinatoryBeing 4 points 22 days ago +4 / -0

On the contrary, you get to brag about your giant budget to other government golems. The bigger the waste, the more "successful" and "necessary" your agency looks.

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– ScallionPancake 4 points 22 days ago +4 / -0

why do governments use MS?

They’re filled with retarded boomers, niggers, and women. These idiots can barely use computers in general.

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– MargarineMongoose 1 point 21 days ago +1 / -0

If only you knew how bad things really are...

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– ernsithe 3 points 22 days ago +3 / -0

why don't they all go with the free option by default

That question almost always goes to corporate support contracts. If I'm a big accounting firm and Excel breaks business-wide one day, I can get MS on the phone and fix it. I don't have to wait for some random guy in Eastern Europe who develops software as a hobby to get around to a patch when he has free time. Every second that my software isn't working is lost revenue. That's why enterprise paid for support contracts in the first place. Once a company is big enough, it only trusts the risk management style that's common with other big companies.

The free software you see get big corporate adoption is usually stuff in the programming sphere, where the company itself already has employees who can deal with it or another large company using it explicitly has people dedicated to supporting it. Like why OpenSSL has massive adoption and OpenOffice doesn't.

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– MargarineMongoose 1 point 21 days ago +1 / -0

I ran into issues trying to get Black and White installed on a VM, so I still don't think it's ready for prime time, but it handled Notepad++ a lot better than I was expecting it to, so there's some progress being made.

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– cccpneveragain 1 point 21 days ago +1 / -0

I've always had issues with VMs either way. Especially with graphics and games. Those old games are going to take tinkering regardless, you are just less likely to run into a "This totally won't work" barrier like Windows 10 (or worse 11).

Someone who's just an I buy my games on Steam person, it's exceptional for any game that doesn't require kernel spyware. Pretty much just works. Although, still I'd say I hear Nvidia users have to fight it a lot more. I have never even tried it on an Nvidia system.

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– Quebec_Is_A_ShitHole 5 points 22 days ago +5 / -0

Yeah whole world is going to shit, i get it

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– RoulerBleu 1 point 21 days ago +1 / -0

Is Microsoft getting sued for breach of contract over this?

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