Boomer Socialism at it again
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Property taxes are necessary, remove income taxes, the only people arguing for the former over the latter are usually on the government dole.
You understand that property tax means you never own your property, right?
The government owns your property, and you rent it from them. If you stop paying at any time, they can take it from you and put better goy slaves who will pay them on your land.
Property tax is the absolute WORST tax. It is perpetual and can be changed at any time with no regard to your income level. It is the ultimate slave tax.
This is not the first time he's refused to understand this or the importance of it. Anyone who supports property taxes should just come out in the open and advocate for a return to feudalism directly.
Ah yes, the pilgrims were feudalists, same with the founding fathers and every rational economist. You understand that even if you don’t have property taxes you never own your property and the government can kick you off it at any given moment simply because they want to? Paying taxes or not paying taxes doesn’t make the property any more or less yours. Property taxes are bar none the least invasive tax there is and the one that doesn’t damage economic growth.
You want to pay your local lord for the privilege any and all material possessions because those actually just belong to the local lord and not you. Stop pussy footing around it and own your position: You don't believe in the concept of owning property.
Cool. So let's take away one of their reasons to do so, and we can work on the others later.
You understand that without a government you don’t own your property either right?
So can literally any tax. Property taxes have the massive benefit of being a LOCAL tax, if you don’t live in a shithole your taxes don’t go up.
You are an absolute midwit. Without a government, nothing matters and it's survival of the fittest. That's a fucking non-argument.
Property tax only makes sense if you generate income from your property. Without that contingency, you are being charged for living. It is the absolute worst tax possible. Income tax only impacts you when you generate something. Property tax doesn't care if you are 100 year old granny, pay me bitch.
I hope you end up old and alone and get kicked out of your house you built for not paying government rental fees. Seems like that's the only way you will understand how fucking stupid you are.
He's got a fair point about locality, but your point about ownership trumps it.
If the people who live in houses that cost 2x more are getting 2x more out of schools, etc. it would be reasonable. The higher costs come with more benefits. The problem arises when it's any higher level of government doing the collecting. State property taxes for example. The people who spent more on their homes get the honor of shoveling money into a furnace for gibs on the other side of the state. That's not reasonable. Even before addressing the question of ownership.
As loathe as I am to say so, the Euros actually figured it out a long time ago with VAT. It doesn't matter how much you make or save. If you don't consume, you don't pay. The more basic the item, the less is paid. And it's constantly visible. Instead of people realizing they're getting nothing for their tax money once a year, they see it constantly and might actually react.
And you own nothing because it is assured by no one, you fucking retard.
The income tax slave mindset is truly hilarious. You’re bitching about a tax that has existed since the inception of the country and is by far the easiest to manage. The property tax is set by your local community, it is the easiest for the local populace to control, it is the easiest to build a nice area and keep out degenerates, it is the best tax to not inhibit economic growth. You however, in your boomer retard brain only see having to save money to pay taxes in the future as the worst possible thing to ever happen. You would never survive a winter.
Here comes the boomer socialist. I’m sorry I made money and have a community. I’m sorry you’re too lazy to build up your community let alone be apart of it.
Government isn't the reason you own things..
Seriously. Government is the reason you have to work so hard to keep the things, that they ultimately say you don't own anyway and will take either while you earn the money for them, save the money for it, or after you die as part of an estate tax.
Government isn't the giver of anything other than misery.
There’s dozens of countries where government won’t interfere or intercede for you, try one!
You won’t because you want to bitch, I’m sure you’re well aware of the reality of anarchic structures.
Income tax means the government owns your time and talent.
Sales tax means the government owns the fruit of your labor. Export tariffs are a sales tax.
Pick your poison. The only cure is to cut spending.
"but who will build the roads without the taxes"
ok, retard. you know nothing about US history on the subject if you believe taxes are necessary
Apparently you don’t retard. The property tax is so American that it was the only tax the pilgrims had. It’s also the only tax that doesn’t destroy economies.
look at you, advocating for taxes! meanwhile those tax revenues are being embezzled by isreal, jewkraine, illegal somalis in Minnesota, illegal armenians in California, the California government, people in DC and the DC collar counties...... but do go on and tell me how personal taxes are necessary like a dipshit.
Look at you complaining about the effects of income tax!
zoning laws aren't American.
you could tax the land because you couldn't stop anyone from using it how they liked to make money for themselves.
How about we remove all taxes except sales tax.
Im only taxed when i buy something and only once. No more endless taxes or compounding taxes over and over. If i spend my money then you can get involved if i dont spend anything its mine
This is a retardedly childish statement. Sales taxes kill economic growth, if you don’t believe me look at every major city with higher sales tax rates versus lower.
Also if you don’t spend your money inflation will just eat it anyways, not sure what your great logic here is other than your fee fees getting hurt.
Sales tax is only a problem because of other taxes. You blame the one thing that is actually under YOUR control. What you buy and how much.
Proves your a fucking retard to attack this.
And nice defense fucking queer, ooh inflation buzzword. No shit it exists, but inflation barely effects anything as prices have risen faster than inflation meaning its a non issue
VAT tax is killing Europe you sperging retard.
You don’t even know what inflation is….
Income taxes are necessary. But property taxes are inherently a bad thing because it means you never truly own your property. And aren't necessary if there is income tax. Why should there be property taxes if there is already income tax and sales tax? That's crazy. Property taxes is just a way to make sure people "own nothing and will be happy." The only reason income taxes aren't covering everything nowadays is because of corrupt politicians and because of too many government handouts to corporations. And when it comes to the USA, because of all the wars which eats up most of the tax dollars. Because war is insanely expensive due to the military industrial complex charging insane prices for every little thing. EDIT: And also because so many wealthy people pay only 1% in taxes or less or just nothing.
nope. but no thanks for playing, retard. If you know US history on the subject you wouldnt make such a retarded statement
If you think income tax is necessary you’re either a Keynesian retard or severely economically illiterate. You don’t ever “truly own your property” that’s the entire point of living in a government. Even the pilgrims understood this.
Income tax is light years more damaging to personal earnings that any other tax, bar none. You’re crying about something that isn’t even a fraction of the lifetime cost of an income tax.
That’s just hilariously false, the income tax was always an abuse and was blatantly unconstitutional until congress forced it to fund socialism.
This is just made up socialist bullshit, boomers healthcare and social security costs more than war.
Is this satire or are you just trolling?
It’s not satire. Do you know how much boomers cost each year?
We don't live in the 1800s. Before income tax, people were riding fucking horses on dirt roads. Of course in a world like that, governments don't need a lot of tax dollars.
Hey anti simp I was rooting for you, but you lost this one bud
Also by defending any government tax you are simping. Please live up to your name and encourage me to live up to mine.
And look at the dumb shit they (we) are paying for now. We wouldn't "need"* an income tax if we reigned in fraud, waste, abuse, immigration, and other forms of looting the treasury.
*The air quotes here are doing a LOT of heavy lifting.
You have to be a troll. Property taxes paid for roads and infrastructure to include public works and schools. Why the fuck do you think there’s magically different neighborhoods with wildly different amenities despite being in the same city and state?
How does that tweet go? "Boy, I can't wait for The Great War [World War 1] to end so we can get rid of this temporary income tax."
i'll take: "people who clearly don't understand the difference between state, federal, payroll and excise taxes," for $200, Alex.
The majority of people who are arguing against property taxes are people who purchased a house and don't want to lose it one day. And think it's just unfair.
Purchased a house and don’t have jobs. There are plenty of welfare queen homeowners.