You are an absolute midwit. Without a government, nothing matters and it's survival of the fittest. That's a fucking non-argument.
Property tax only makes sense if you generate income from your property. Without that contingency, you are being charged for living. It is the absolute worst tax possible. Income tax only impacts you when you generate something. Property tax doesn't care if you are 100 year old granny, pay me bitch.
I hope you end up old and alone and get kicked out of your house you built for not paying government rental fees. Seems like that's the only way you will understand how fucking stupid you are.
He's got a fair point about locality, but your point about ownership trumps it.
If the people who live in houses that cost 2x more are getting 2x more out of schools, etc. it would be reasonable. The higher costs come with more benefits. The problem arises when it's any higher level of government doing the collecting. State property taxes for example. The people who spent more on their homes get the honor of shoveling money into a furnace for gibs on the other side of the state. That's not reasonable. Even before addressing the question of ownership.
As loathe as I am to say so, the Euros actually figured it out a long time ago with VAT. It doesn't matter how much you make or save. If you don't consume, you don't pay. The more basic the item, the less is paid. And it's constantly visible. Instead of people realizing they're getting nothing for their tax money once a year, they see it constantly and might actually react.
VAT is an economy killer, there’s a reason Europe is stagnant. Property tax is the least disruptive tax for economic development, it’s inarguably the best one for a stable economy.
The point isn't to have the optimal economic zone. The point is to take the only what is necessary to provide common services to the people paying for them.
"Stagnation" is fine. Companies used to transition from growth to value when they matured. Countries need to learn to do the same. Besides, I don't agree with your premise. The main reason Europe is stagnant is overregulation. They've stamped out innovation, which is where growth should come from and are now trying to "grow" by throwing useless warm bodies at it.
The point isn't to have the optimal economic zone. The point is to take the only what is necessary to provide common services to the people paying for them.
You’re contradicting yourself. If we’re taking only what is necessary then the optimal tax for economic growth is the best option because it leaves the most for the citizens.
"Stagnation" is fine. Companies used to transition from growth to value when they matured. Countries need to learn to do the same. Besides, I don't agree with your premise. The main reason Europe is stagnant is overregulation. They've stamped out innovation, which is where growth should come from and are now trying to "grow" by throwing useless warm bodies at it.
Stagnation is fine IF we don’t have a fiat currency. Short of that stagnation is death. All of Europe is not over regulated, Switzerland is a prime example and has half the GDP growth per capita. They’re 4th in tax friendliness globally, the only key difference between the two countries is the Valued Added Tax.
You are an absolute midwit. Without a government, nothing matters and it's survival of the fittest. That's a fucking non-argument.
And you own nothing because it is assured by no one, you fucking retard.
Property tax only makes sense if you generate income from your property. Without that contingency, you are being charged for living. It is the absolute worst tax possible. Income tax only impacts you when you generate something. Property tax doesn't care if you are 100 year old granny, pay me bitch.
The income tax slave mindset is truly hilarious. You’re bitching about a tax that has existed since the inception of the country and is by far the easiest to manage. The property tax is set by your local community, it is the easiest for the local populace to control, it is the easiest to build a nice area and keep out degenerates, it is the best tax to not inhibit economic growth. You however, in your boomer retard brain only see having to save money to pay taxes in the future as the worst possible thing to ever happen. You would never survive a winter.
I hope you end up old and alone and get kicked out of your house you built for not paying government rental fees. Seems like that's the only way you will understand how fucking stupid you are.
Here comes the boomer socialist. I’m sorry I made money and have a community. I’m sorry you’re too lazy to build up your community let alone be apart of it.
“No we have to punish earners in order to skyrocket home costs because my local tax makes me feel bad”
I swear you retards are a hair breadth from Marxist stupidity. Guess what happens to property prices when property taxes disappear? You’ll never own a home retard, you’re shooting every future generation in the foot because you want to bitch about a tax that causes the least economic impact and has the most visible benefits.
You are an absolute midwit. Without a government, nothing matters and it's survival of the fittest. That's a fucking non-argument.
Property tax only makes sense if you generate income from your property. Without that contingency, you are being charged for living. It is the absolute worst tax possible. Income tax only impacts you when you generate something. Property tax doesn't care if you are 100 year old granny, pay me bitch.
I hope you end up old and alone and get kicked out of your house you built for not paying government rental fees. Seems like that's the only way you will understand how fucking stupid you are.
He's got a fair point about locality, but your point about ownership trumps it.
If the people who live in houses that cost 2x more are getting 2x more out of schools, etc. it would be reasonable. The higher costs come with more benefits. The problem arises when it's any higher level of government doing the collecting. State property taxes for example. The people who spent more on their homes get the honor of shoveling money into a furnace for gibs on the other side of the state. That's not reasonable. Even before addressing the question of ownership.
As loathe as I am to say so, the Euros actually figured it out a long time ago with VAT. It doesn't matter how much you make or save. If you don't consume, you don't pay. The more basic the item, the less is paid. And it's constantly visible. Instead of people realizing they're getting nothing for their tax money once a year, they see it constantly and might actually react.
VAT is an economy killer, there’s a reason Europe is stagnant. Property tax is the least disruptive tax for economic development, it’s inarguably the best one for a stable economy.
The point isn't to have the optimal economic zone. The point is to take the only what is necessary to provide common services to the people paying for them.
"Stagnation" is fine. Companies used to transition from growth to value when they matured. Countries need to learn to do the same. Besides, I don't agree with your premise. The main reason Europe is stagnant is overregulation. They've stamped out innovation, which is where growth should come from and are now trying to "grow" by throwing useless warm bodies at it.
You’re contradicting yourself. If we’re taking only what is necessary then the optimal tax for economic growth is the best option because it leaves the most for the citizens.
Stagnation is fine IF we don’t have a fiat currency. Short of that stagnation is death. All of Europe is not over regulated, Switzerland is a prime example and has half the GDP growth per capita. They’re 4th in tax friendliness globally, the only key difference between the two countries is the Valued Added Tax.
And you own nothing because it is assured by no one, you fucking retard.
The income tax slave mindset is truly hilarious. You’re bitching about a tax that has existed since the inception of the country and is by far the easiest to manage. The property tax is set by your local community, it is the easiest for the local populace to control, it is the easiest to build a nice area and keep out degenerates, it is the best tax to not inhibit economic growth. You however, in your boomer retard brain only see having to save money to pay taxes in the future as the worst possible thing to ever happen. You would never survive a winter.
Here comes the boomer socialist. I’m sorry I made money and have a community. I’m sorry you’re too lazy to build up your community let alone be apart of it.
I think he made better points than you.
“No we have to punish earners in order to skyrocket home costs because my local tax makes me feel bad”
I swear you retards are a hair breadth from Marxist stupidity. Guess what happens to property prices when property taxes disappear? You’ll never own a home retard, you’re shooting every future generation in the foot because you want to bitch about a tax that causes the least economic impact and has the most visible benefits.
Yes, that's clearly a good faith response. You're really making your case.
Most Americans already can’t. So your point is meaningless.