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Hackers used Claude to steal 150GB of Mexican government data (twitter.com)
posted 118 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend 118 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend +61 / -0
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– dagthegnome 24 points 118 days ago +24 / -0

What proprietary data does the Mexican government even have? Which minister is owned by which cartel? It's not as if they have any national security interests to protect.

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– 70thLike 22 points 118 days ago +22 / -0

Top secret hot sauce recipes

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– What_password 21 points 118 days ago +21 / -0

Super secret taco recipes.

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– That_Which_Lurks 18 points 118 days ago +18 / -0

Extremely extravagant enchilada recipes.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 16 points 118 days ago +16 / -0

Ultra secret fajita recipes.

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– MassivePecorino 8 points 117 days ago +8 / -0

Cosmic Top Secret Chili con carne recipes.

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– dagthegnome 3 points 117 days ago +3 / -0

It's true. The secret that Mexican exporters are desperate to protect is that beans take up valuable space where meat could be.

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– MartinRigggs 17 points 118 days ago +17 / -0

Hurry up and do the same thing to the U.S. gov and all of the WEF/UN involved govs. There’s no telling what kind of criminal shit could be found in that data, definitely blatant evidence of criminal conspiracies, coverups, and of treason. Probably wouldn’t be hard to find evidence of an international conspiracy showing our sovereignty is already gone, and the real bosses are a bunch of oligarch jews directing multiple governments on what policy will be forced on their people.

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– deleted 7 points 117 days ago +7 / -0
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– Grumman 17 points 118 days ago +17 / -0

That would reintroduce a different attack surface, since a physical database is not encrypted and does not automatically log access. If you just want an airgap between you and the hackers, you don't need to go to paper for that.

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– Lurker404 4 points 118 days ago +4 / -0

Things like that have been kind of solved in the past, e.g. dual custody locks that require two keys to open or seals that get destroyed when a key is inserted. The Cold War era is so back, baby!

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– Grumman 2 points 117 days ago +2 / -0

You're not going to use that kind of security for a government database you'll be accessing with great regularity. You might not even have time to shut the vault door before you need to open it again. Limiting access to a separate computer network within the tax office headquarters is already bad enough.

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– 70thLike 7 points 118 days ago +7 / -0

You can penetrate an air* gapped system locally, so it's much, much harder for outside attackers. Like, movie heist level of difficulty. If it can be penetrated remotely, then it's not actually air gapped. Which actually does happen when you have incompetent employees that connect air gapped devices to external networks.

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– el_hoovy 4 points 117 days ago +4 / -0

Are there ways to penetrate even air gapped systems?

air-gapped means completely inaccessible unless you're there in front of it. a PC with no wifi chip and no ethernet cable plugged into it can be considered air-gapped. even so, secret agencies have literally concocted plots to gain access to people's air-gapped systems, Homeland Security for example had several people distracting the Silk Road drug lord at a public library where he'd brought his laptop before his arrest to make sure he was logged in and everything on it had been decrypted in memory.

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– LinnocenceDeLame 1 point 117 days ago +1 / -0

Silkroad guy was an idiot tho. How does one even fall for that? And wtf was he still doing in the US anyway?

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– MargarineMongoose 1 point 116 days ago +1 / -0

IIRC the US government actually burned a couple of their zero-day vulnerabilities in order to get at that guy.

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– Kaarous 4 points 118 days ago +4 / -0

Things like that exist but they can't use it. A SCIF is a concept based on reliable and trustworthy people who manage and guard it, and the mexicans are an entire people of corruption and criminals. They don't even have a real government, just a six fingered hand puppet for the various cartels.

When I worked for the DOD they were quietly considered by many agencies as an enemy nation.

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– hk416 3 points 117 days ago +3 / -0

You mean like mission impossible?

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– MargarineMongoose 2 points 116 days ago +2 / -0

As someone who has had to deal with physical filing cabinets, as part of an IT job no less, I can tell you that no one actually wants to go back to full physical record keeping. I don't think you can put that genie back in the bottle without a full on overhaul of society top to bottom. We're talking throwing people from rooftops for owning a laptop levels of madness required to achieve that.

What we're more likely to see is people wising up about how they interface with AI, including a large push for locally hosted AI. You want to have all your LLM capabilities applied to secure data? Cool, here's an air-gapped server rack to run that LLM. You can walk the read-only CD into the server room and load it up and do your LLM stuff right there in the middle of all the server racks if you really need it.

The tech isn't going away, but we will see dramatic changes to how it gets used and the precautions people will take with it. Kind of how like cars now have air bags, turn signals, horns and roads have actual lanes. The car didn't go away just because the only two cars in the entire city managed to find each other and get in a wreck. We just...built out more conventions and accessories to better adapt the technology into our world.

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– ItLivesInTheWind 2 points 117 days ago +2 / -0

They'll do it after AI solves enough math to make cryptography unreliable.

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– Grumman 2 points 117 days ago +2 / -0

AI of the sort that exists today will never solve that math. AI will tell you how other people have solved that math, but if the way those people solved the math hasn't already broken cryptography, neither will the AI.

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– ernsithe 8 points 117 days ago +8 / -0

"Used" is a very flexible term. Used to "find vulnerabilities," "write scripts," and "determine ways to..."

I get the distinct feeling that this attack is akin to a script kiddie asking the AI which tools to use to find and exploit existing vulnerabilities and journalists trying to make it sound like the AI is carrying out cyberwarefare on request.

"how I scan ports"
"Nmap is the most commonly used port scanning tool. Here are example invocations."
"HACKER USES [AI BRAND WITH HOTTEST SEO TODAY] TO HACK MEXICO!"

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– FellowCanuckIstan 6 points 118 days ago +6 / -0

Breaking into a system with more steps and lazy attitude. Claude or not it was there for the taking

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– Sneak_King 4 points 117 days ago +4 / -0

What we were missing from being a true cyberpunk econ zone was cartoonish levels of force amplification. But maybe we're getting there.

"Hey, Siri. Detonate Israel's nuclear arsenal without launching. If you don't, a nigger will lose welfare."

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– Michalusmichalus 2 points 117 days ago +2 / -0

How many people voted in both Mexico, and the US?

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