I’d say making an effort to create a picture with paint is far more worthy of being called art than entering a prompt into a computer for an image output.
And someone with training using horse hair brushes, rabbit fat glue, okra oil paints and seal skin canvases would say that a kid with some shit and a wall to draw on is beneath their level of competance.
But someone once painted the walls of caves with their chewed up food, and without them we wouldn't have the Sistine Chapel ceiling today.
Art is any expression, and refining it is what brings elegance and sophistication.
Today's most perfect music will be as wild as a primal scream when given enough time.
It's the message being inferred with AI, the onlooker becomes part of the piece.
Art is a combination of idea and execution. If one of these is sufficiently brilliant, it may compensate for the other.
AI is, for the most part, a type of execution. If you find yourself enjoying a particular AI creation, it is probably because the ideas behind it are extra smart - smart enough to qualify as art.
And someone with training using horse hair brushes, rabbit fat glue, okra oil paints and seal skin canvases would say that a kid with some shit and a wall to draw on is beneath their level of competance.
Sure! I'd disagree with them though. There will always be pretentious artists out there.
But a prompt fed into a computer with AI characters and voices churned out is not "art expression." It's beneath painting caves with chewed up food, because that actually takes effort, time, courage, emotion.
Letting a computer do the work for you after you show it content that other people made? Nah.
t's the message being inferred with AI, the onlooker becomes part of the piece.
Fucken lol.
Anyone who takes this...ahem..."piece" seriously is retarded.
In many respects it is. I did certainly imply it’s subjectivity when a user remarked elsewhere in the thread seal canvases v children scribbling on walls. To the hypothetical person, they don’t see the latter as art. I, personally, would, because art is inherently expression through a medium. Granted, to different degrees, I don’t find them equal art, but art nonetheless.
I don’t think, in the context of the parent thread, that AI slop is at all in line at all with art through activism/expression. It’s lines fed into a machine, that the user did not make, and the machine pores over data that the user did not log, and uses existing art that the user did not create, and outputs a video based on prompts that the user barely lifted a finger for.
It’s not expression. It’s data output.
What I just did in respect to the comment you replied to was ask a question to a different user, so I don’t really understand the context of your question.
AI is not art.
Neither is paint.
I’d say making an effort to create a picture with paint is far more worthy of being called art than entering a prompt into a computer for an image output.
Trolling is a art
A seasoned curator of cultural artefacts are we?
I'd say that was the last sentence uttered that made sense on the Internet, before the dark times, before the iPhone.
That's definitely more of an art than AI
And someone with training using horse hair brushes, rabbit fat glue, okra oil paints and seal skin canvases would say that a kid with some shit and a wall to draw on is beneath their level of competance.
But someone once painted the walls of caves with their chewed up food, and without them we wouldn't have the Sistine Chapel ceiling today.
Art is any expression, and refining it is what brings elegance and sophistication.
Today's most perfect music will be as wild as a primal scream when given enough time.
It's the message being inferred with AI, the onlooker becomes part of the piece.
Art is a combination of idea and execution. If one of these is sufficiently brilliant, it may compensate for the other.
AI is, for the most part, a type of execution. If you find yourself enjoying a particular AI creation, it is probably because the ideas behind it are extra smart - smart enough to qualify as art.
Sure! I'd disagree with them though. There will always be pretentious artists out there.
But a prompt fed into a computer with AI characters and voices churned out is not "art expression." It's beneath painting caves with chewed up food, because that actually takes effort, time, courage, emotion.
Letting a computer do the work for you after you show it content that other people made? Nah.
Fucken lol.
Anyone who takes this...ahem..."piece" seriously is retarded.
Whatever artists make is not art either.
What constitutes art in your eyes?
Did you just claim that the definition of art is subjective?
In many respects it is. I did certainly imply it’s subjectivity when a user remarked elsewhere in the thread seal canvases v children scribbling on walls. To the hypothetical person, they don’t see the latter as art. I, personally, would, because art is inherently expression through a medium. Granted, to different degrees, I don’t find them equal art, but art nonetheless.
I don’t think, in the context of the parent thread, that AI slop is at all in line at all with art through activism/expression. It’s lines fed into a machine, that the user did not make, and the machine pores over data that the user did not log, and uses existing art that the user did not create, and outputs a video based on prompts that the user barely lifted a finger for.
It’s not expression. It’s data output.
What I just did in respect to the comment you replied to was ask a question to a different user, so I don’t really understand the context of your question.
I love how AI gets intellectual frauds to so willingly expose themselves.
Fucken lol
Agreed, this is way better than a banana taped to the wall or a jar of piss with a crucifix in it.
By a small margin. It's down at the bottom of the barrel for sure.