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posted 140 days ago by weltallic 140 days ago by weltallic +91 / -0
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– Kaarous 11 points 140 days ago +11 / -0

Did you just claim that the definition of art is subjective?

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– Modeler43 2 points 140 days ago +2 / -0

In many respects it is. I did certainly imply it’s subjectivity when a user remarked elsewhere in the thread seal canvases v children scribbling on walls. To the hypothetical person, they don’t see the latter as art. I, personally, would, because art is inherently expression through a medium. Granted, to different degrees, I don’t find them equal art, but art nonetheless.

I don’t think, in the context of the parent thread, that AI slop is at all in line at all with art through activism/expression. It’s lines fed into a machine, that the user did not make, and the machine pores over data that the user did not log, and uses existing art that the user did not create, and outputs a video based on prompts that the user barely lifted a finger for.

It’s not expression. It’s data output.

What I just did in respect to the comment you replied to was ask a question to a different user, so I don’t really understand the context of your question.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 6 points 140 days ago +6 / -0

I, personally, would, because art is inherently expression through a medium.

Despite your use of the qualifier "personally," you just gave an objective definition. Your qualifier only applies to your application of that definition.

It’s not expression. It’s data output.

Data output is a form of expression. I'm not telling you that AI art is amazing or equally meritorious, but in many cases it is a form of basic art.

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– Modeler43 1 point 140 days ago +1 / -0

First, I told ⁦@grok⁩ to look at every single Amelia meme on the Internet. Second, I said: “Become Amelia, then make a video and tell the British people what you want them to know.”

What is being expressed by the user? There is no emotion behind the prompt, no apparent goal, no motive. Simple request and output.

There is no expression.

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– Kaarous 4 points 140 days ago +4 / -0

By your strange definition, driving is not travel because somebody else built your car.

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– Modeler43 2 points 140 days ago +2 / -0

...lol what?

We're talking about art, not travel. Those aren't the same things. I don't even understand how you get to that line of thinking. I can't begin to find any connection between how a person making art is in any way related to a person driving a car to get from A to B.

There's no transitive property required in defining art vs defining travel. They are two very different things.

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– Kaarous 2 points 140 days ago +2 / -0

You are aware that you essentially just told me "but I did eat breakfast", right?

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