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Hahaha. Every single time the US does a regime change war the living conditions get worse for the people living there. But that's not all. The daily lives of Americans get worse too. Have been continuously since the end of WW2. No I'm not counting a short period of mindless consumerism while the fabric of American society was dismantled as an improvement.
You need central banking to prop up this amount of war. So, morals aside, you're massively inflating everything to shift money to the warmongers.
Aren't we up to like 99% of all money in human history was "created" in the last few years? It's insane we don't have more inflation...yet.
Most of it is tied up in ouroborosian “financial instruments” that do nothing but buy each other, $1.4 quintillion in derivatives, and in the “Eurodollar” system. The latter has fuck all to do with the Euro (currency). It’s a group of European banks that are allowed to create as many US dollars as they want, with no oversight, in order to trade between them. This system was set up after WWII when Europe was incapable of standing on its own feet. And… it was never ended.
Actually WW2 should be included.
Heck, that's one of the biggest. Everything went wrong after that.
Dude, Venesuala's living conditions could not get worse. They were eating dogs when they could find them.
This is the country where the infinitely farmable currency in World of Warcraft is worth more than their dollar...that's not an exaggeration or a joke, that's a fact.
If US "regime change" here made Venesuala's living conditions worse, I'd actually be impressed
There was no actual regime change yet for Venezuela. But conditions can get far worse. You don't want to live in a country without stability.
Korea is an exception for sure.
Also these are commies.
The entirety of the Korean peninsula was flattened by US bombs, the country was split in two and South Korea became a dystopian military dictatorship. South Korea may look pretty today but it is as much of a dystopian hellhole as North Korea is. Only with enough food.
A hell hole? Its safer, nicer, and more Christian than Europe. Arguably more white as well.
Yes, a feminist dystopian corporate controlled hellhole. A country where the lives of your children revolve around studying themselves half to death to hopefully get a job at the big corporations only then to work themselves to death for those corporations.
You might want to take a closer look at South Korea before you glorify it. It's like glorying China because Shenzhen is a pretty and modern city on the surface.
Been there many times and have several American friends living there for several years. Its not at all what you describe, you should get out more.
It is very superficial in terms of appearance, but probably in a good way. Women are not at all bossy like Western counterparts, and slutty behavior is frowned upon. You see several prominent churches right in the middle of downtown.
You have to be kidding me. Of course you won't experience the dystopia actual Koreans have to deal with as a fucking foreigner.
Except I wasn't a tourist.
Your own negative vibes will nuke your soul. Stop before its too late for you.
Ya regardless of the gay meme I'm still not cheering on another zogwar.
Great, now make one with Ahmad Chalabi thanking Bush and a "retarded leftist" telling him that he was wrong.
Turns out, "retarded leftists" can be right, particularly when they voice an opinion that you all voiced until literally 2 days ago.
Lower prices, Epstein Files, mass deportations, peace in Ukraine, America First? Best we can do is a neocon regime change & a meme to try to justify it.
Yup. At least I stay consistent.
If this is handled well, maybe things get better for Venezuelans in the short term. But I still think it wasn't our business, will be worse in the long run, and absolutely condemn it.
Maduro was, to put it mildly, not a good leader. But that's a separate issue than supporting his removal by foreign powers. It's also unclear if whoever comes next will be better or worse, since everyone queued up seems to be massively globalist traitors.
As is often the case when leftists are correct, they're correct for largely retarded reasons, but I can still give them a point when they earn it.
The attack on Venezuela and removal of Maduro was a shit move, and not America First. All these people on the right doing a 180 and cheering for this - and calling anyone who condemns it a commie - are pissing me off.
No. Venezuela was never a threat, and no one thought it was until they were told to fairly recently. It wasn't our freaking business, and it's not in the interest of the American people.
I knew you would. But there's a shocking number of MAGA influencers who support this, and who even say "steal their oil". Coming from the same people who, the day before, said that blacks steal because they don't have the impulse control to not steal what isn't theirs.
Even if everything goes perfectly, it will be worse, because people will point to this "great success" to justify ever greater foolishness and adventurism.
We've been through this when they were calling everyone "pro-Saddam" for opposing a previous neocon regime change. It feels like history is repeating itself, just this time as farce.
That's not even on the radar of the powers that be.
While I was relieved things went smoothly, even though I didn't want to go in at all...I'm also blackpilled enough at this point that my immediate initial thought was...ah, so we're pivoting to Iran. And, sadly, that prediction is still looking likely. I still hope I'm wrong, but it looks like America will likely be trying to take down Iran within the next months.
And the same retarded cheerleaders will cheer that on too.
That will be the seven countries...and Cuba, Columbia, and Panama seem to have been added to the list too. America is just going to try taking everything, it seems...while still condemning Russia and supporting the proxy war there.
It really is so infuriating and disappointed. They got to Trump, even more than they already had. This is a totally different Trump than Trump 1.0. I'd hoped it would be a better Trump, and there were hopeful signs but...nope, we get this nonsense and evil.
The saving grace seems to be that this guy is just a publicity hound trying to go for quick, flashy and easy 'wins'. There are rumors that he negotiated with Venezuela for them to give up Maduro so that he could say that he OBLITERATED them.
Even taking down Venezuela would have been much more difficult than this, and taking down Iran way more so than this.
These morons will cheer for literally anything.
The most terrifying thing is that the "opposition party" isn't even opposing it. The two parties are always in agreement when it's something stupid and evil.
I got heat for saying that Trump's first term wasn't great. But I gave him credit for at least starting no new wars. And the first six months were pretty great. Actually doing stuff and being a bulldozer through the bureaucracy unlike the do nothing first term. Then came the triple punch of Epstein-Iran-Venezuela. Now he seems like the most psychotic warmonger around - but I'm hoping that it's just a pose.
Maduro either surrendered or was betrayed and handed over. I put that at above eighty percent, personally.
It wasn't great by any means. But it was pretty good, grading on a bell curve. Trump 1 was perhaps the best US president in decades, not that the bar is high. But yeah, he still wasn't great.
It's a mix. It's partly pose...but he's also clearly actually doing the warmongering, too.
Best case scenario, he's just chasing headlines and flashy action. Still bad, but less bad than him being blackmailed / owned by neocons. Or maybe him being a neocon himself who signals against them because they are so unpopular.
maduro emptied his prisons and sent millions of people here through his being shit
taking him out is america first because now they can (read: will) leave
Seems pretty mild to me. Maybe it's because I come from an Old World where regime changes come from mass invasion forces, civilian massacres, ethnic cleansing. This by comparison is a bloodless arrest of a criminal and he was even given a trial.
I'm glad it went smoothly, but you don't just get to do that. "Criminal" or not, he's a foreign leader. That's still an invasion and a coup. Calling him a "narcoterrorist" doesn't change that.
And, if we're doing shit this way, I demand the immediate arrest of Bibi and Zelenskyy™.
Hell, let's just go arrest all the European leaders, while we're at it. They'll all criminals, after all. We can administer the whole world, in the name of Democracy.
I don't know why you are all worked up over a mild action, like an arrest. It's not like they used mass torture or lined people up against a wall.
I'm just shit posting to AOV.
What if China "arrested" Trump?
And, to my example, what if the US mass arrested European leaders?
They'd have to come and get him. I'd giggle if they printed out a warrant.
An arrest of a foriegn leader, thats a far bigger deal than some executions or torture.
National sovereignty is a pretty big deal, dude.
We're still in the early days, plenty of time for this to be proven a disaster, I'm expecting increased immigration and another decade of it being a money pit disaster.
I'd have been perfectly happy leaving our navy parked off their coastline and blowing up the "fishing boats" indefinitely. I didn't want regime change.
But now that it's happened, I hope it's less disastrous than all of the other regime changes. I think the main difference here is that Venezuela was already a complete nightmare, so it's difficult to see how it could possibly get worse, whereas most of the other regime changes we've undertaken were in previously relatively stable countries.
This is jingling keys to distract from other, more important things.
What are those things? I don't know, because all the reporters and news were distracted.
Why shouldn't be invading shitholes to improve the lives of their people.