there's a slim chance that could be a good thing. it would require Android to actually optimize their operating system. if Microsoft and Apple have to do the same, maybe just maybe we will see quality operating systems again.
I already had a taste of this on my 32 GB home computer.
Me: "Hey this IDE is using 10 GB of ram and it's mostly a text editor and parser. This is ridiculous."
Engineer: "Memory is there to be used. You still have over 20 GB to dispose of."
Me: "My browser is using over 1 GB."
Engineer: "Memory is there to be used. You still have over 19 GB to dispose of."
Me running another memory expensive program: "This tool tells me I'm almost out of free memory."
Engineer: "Your computer is a few years old; just buy more ram."
I think the meme of Spidermans all pointing at each other is going to be real in the form of software vendors all telling us that we'd better pony up for more memory or stop using other software. Unfortunately corporations would sooner use a popular piece of garbage than an efficient program that does the job far better.
Underrated comment. I had like.... 16 GB of ram which ro a strictly office computer should be more than enough. In HS I was using Maya and 3DSmax and the entire adobe suite for my multimedia course. And I only had 4 gigs of ram at.the time. That was consider a TON of ram at the time when most computers brand-new at best buy had 1.
Fast forward and I just upgraded to 48 gigs. It's such a large amount it sounds stupid. But it's not. Not to mention a 2tb hdd. I resent that I even need this size machine now for fucking office work. I don't even use fun programs anymore. It's just browsers,.adobe acrobat, and fucking Excel.
The government will put fuel efficiency requirements on cars. Sometimes I wish they out ram efficiency requirements on software. At least for basic shit.
"Hey this IDE is using 10 GB of ram and it's mostly a text editor and parser. This is ridiculous."
10GB is still absurd but in the days when those were significantly smaller, the undo stack was 1 action deep instead of infinite and you couldn't "show references" instantly in a 200 file project.
And sometimes it actually is a sort of optimization. They generically know how big the RAM pool is. They don't know what your individual CPU is capable of. So the simple approach is to cache the shit out of everything in memory to avoid having to calculate it multiple times.
Or basic bitch software like mod loaders coming in hot with 1.4 GB installs because they're made by faggots on SDKs who have to bundle the entire fucking thing.
I had one crisis where I couldn't figure out where my C: drive space went, turns out I had to install some Python SDK and unbeknownst to me the Python SDK downloader required some fucking insane 20GB piece of shit software bundle.
The thing is, hard drive space has NOT increased. HDDs reached 2TB and basically stopped. SSDs reach 4TB now and there's not much larger. And not much matters in that regard anyway because only specialist boards support more than one or two m.2 connections.
Pass a law that has a 'size tax' where every GB of your install comes with a tax the developer has to pay and watch these sizes shrink to reasonable levels.
I love how I've never installed a game on my phone but it has like 20 games installed and new ones appear with every update.
I wish we had a government who gave a shit about us and made it a fucking crime to install anything on my device without my explicit permission. That includes any updates. If I say 'no updates' then that's it. Besides Windows, that would apply to Steam.
Pfft, it's perfectly reasonable for an app that amounts to a few buttons and text boxes and a couple background images to be a 40MB download and use 400MB of working RAM.
Buying used has always been the way to go for phones IMHO. They churn out so many new versions every year that 3-4 year old higher end phones are still better than new mid range phones and MUCH cheaper.
Or do what I did and buy new and just use the same flip phone for 17 years straight. They only got me off that thing because they literally disabled the 3G network, it was still perfectly functional other than that.
I've read a couple of days ago that they're already reducing the RAM of future smartphones, like 4GB for entry level phones.
there's a slim chance that could be a good thing. it would require Android to actually optimize their operating system. if Microsoft and Apple have to do the same, maybe just maybe we will see quality operating systems again.
a man can dream.
Bloat OS, bloat apps, bloat background spyware. Something has to give.
I already had a taste of this on my 32 GB home computer.
Me: "Hey this IDE is using 10 GB of ram and it's mostly a text editor and parser. This is ridiculous."
Engineer: "Memory is there to be used. You still have over 20 GB to dispose of."
Me: "My browser is using over 1 GB."
Engineer: "Memory is there to be used. You still have over 19 GB to dispose of."
Me running another memory expensive program: "This tool tells me I'm almost out of free memory."
Engineer: "Your computer is a few years old; just buy more ram."
I think the meme of Spidermans all pointing at each other is going to be real in the form of software vendors all telling us that we'd better pony up for more memory or stop using other software. Unfortunately corporations would sooner use a popular piece of garbage than an efficient program that does the job far better.
Underrated comment. I had like.... 16 GB of ram which ro a strictly office computer should be more than enough. In HS I was using Maya and 3DSmax and the entire adobe suite for my multimedia course. And I only had 4 gigs of ram at.the time. That was consider a TON of ram at the time when most computers brand-new at best buy had 1.
Fast forward and I just upgraded to 48 gigs. It's such a large amount it sounds stupid. But it's not. Not to mention a 2tb hdd. I resent that I even need this size machine now for fucking office work. I don't even use fun programs anymore. It's just browsers,.adobe acrobat, and fucking Excel.
The government will put fuel efficiency requirements on cars. Sometimes I wish they out ram efficiency requirements on software. At least for basic shit.
10GB is still absurd but in the days when those were significantly smaller, the undo stack was 1 action deep instead of infinite and you couldn't "show references" instantly in a 200 file project.
And sometimes it actually is a sort of optimization. They generically know how big the RAM pool is. They don't know what your individual CPU is capable of. So the simple approach is to cache the shit out of everything in memory to avoid having to calculate it multiple times.
Or basic bitch software like mod loaders coming in hot with 1.4 GB installs because they're made by faggots on SDKs who have to bundle the entire fucking thing.
I had one crisis where I couldn't figure out where my C: drive space went, turns out I had to install some Python SDK and unbeknownst to me the Python SDK downloader required some fucking insane 20GB piece of shit software bundle.
The thing is, hard drive space has NOT increased. HDDs reached 2TB and basically stopped. SSDs reach 4TB now and there's not much larger. And not much matters in that regard anyway because only specialist boards support more than one or two m.2 connections.
Pass a law that has a 'size tax' where every GB of your install comes with a tax the developer has to pay and watch these sizes shrink to reasonable levels.
I love how I've never installed a game on my phone but it has like 20 games installed and new ones appear with every update.
I wish we had a government who gave a shit about us and made it a fucking crime to install anything on my device without my explicit permission. That includes any updates. If I say 'no updates' then that's it. Besides Windows, that would apply to Steam.
Sorry, that only works one way. When you get extra space, you fill that extra space up, but when your amount of space decreases, you become a hoarder.
You don't like your browser using 4gb of ram?!?!??
Pfft, it's perfectly reasonable for an app that amounts to a few buttons and text boxes and a couple background images to be a 40MB download and use 400MB of working RAM.
Buy used or buy new older versions. I'm betting the used laptop market will go through the roof, and older phones will go up in value.
Buying used has always been the way to go for phones IMHO. They churn out so many new versions every year that 3-4 year old higher end phones are still better than new mid range phones and MUCH cheaper.
You can usually get 2+ year old flagship phones (brand new) for 1/3rd to 1/4th the price.
Or do what I did and buy new and just use the same flip phone for 17 years straight. They only got me off that thing because they literally disabled the 3G network, it was still perfectly functional other than that.