At this point I seriously wonder why people are still using discord.
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Maby the employees should have spent less time agitating on Discord and more time doing their job? How many years late are they on this game release?
I have an opinion on that. Games have changed for the worse as far as micro transactions etc. I think the game could be late because it would need a rewrite to release it to today's nickel and diming standards. When the fame finally gets here, I'll know if my guess was correct.
They're also likely trying not to cannibalise the behemoth that is GTA Online.
No need to rush out GTA 6 when GTA Online at present is still making billions.
Plenty of games successfully release, look good, and turn a nice profit without nickle-and-diming players.
DLCs can be done gracefully too ( Deep Rock Galactic DLCs are basically a tipping jar to the devs. You don't get nagged in game to spend more. ''Seasons'' ( major content updates ) are included in the price of the base game. No Pay to Win. Cosmetics unlock by to dozens though game progression ).
Bloated mega studios have to reform of go bankrupt. They won't reform, because ''the bloat'' is in charge.
Its amazing that people don't realize that to the company a Union is a direct attack, and that its very formation is you saying "we are arming ourselves to become big enough to be a threat to you to get our way."
You can fancy it up all you want, and in principle it might even be the morally good-er option against the horrific corporation, but from their end its always something that needs to be stomped out before it becomes a problem they can never be rid of.
And all the terminology and laws these unions try to use are from the days when people were actually being enslaved or worked to literal death by their companies, which is just disrespectful to act like your boss demanding crunch overtime (on a delayed product) or you just doing your fucking job at all is equivalent. Especially with a job you can just leave, unlike the Company Store ones of the past.
They won't leave though, because they are working for probably one of the better paying and provided for in the industry and will have their name on one of the biggest games ever. So they are in a place of extreme privilege compared to most, but still want more.
I have never worked for an anti union company that didn't need to treat their employees with basic respect. Odd how the companies that treat employees well either have a union, or their employees don't feel they need a union.
I've never met a Union at any company I worked for that provided anything for me other than the promise of "you can never be fired, ever, no matter how much you suck." Something I didn't need because I'm not a nigger tier worker.
Any wage increases we got, were long lost on Dues, any protection offered was also used to protect legitimately problematic employees, and any time I wanted to work on my own volition (to say, help get to work faster) I was reprimanded because Union rules.
Unions in theory are good, and Corporations will absolutely abuse their employees if allowed. But most Unions that exist in reality are just bloated bureaucracy that are just fucking you in a different manner.
Unions were a response to conditions that ceased to exist decades ago.
Union dues were designed for union members for emergencies. If you want to see how good a union is, look at how much they give away lobbying while asking union members to beg each other for PTO during an emergency.
To stop it, you have to put a stop to it. Teachers unions, and police unions are the worst for that behavior. But, all the union members care about is their pension, so they let it happen.
Well we've got 7 more months to wait and see if it was the pink-haired landwhales who were fired, or did the firing.
With Alan Lewis, of Take-Two, saying:
I'm guessing since The Verge weren't too bothered by it all the equivalent of USAID money is still being used to pay of journalists and so the pink-hair landwhales are still in power.
A queen has their reign, and then xhe dies. It’s inevitable.
Another article I read said this was in Scottland.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/rockstar-games-sacks-over-30-36172429
Could be a battle of the miserly; Scots versus Jews ;)
Lmao discord still exists after the megaleak?
It's boggles my mind too.
because it's free and incredibly easy to set up. simple as.
Free means you're the product.
too true, but that doesn't stop people from using it. in addition to Discord, see Google, Youtube, All social media platforms, and even this site.
This site is not nearly as bad as discord, or telegram. YouTube has long since had content creators just have radio shows to discuss what YouTube censors. As bad as that is, I dosn't see the FBI targeting people on youtube because of private messages. I don't see people in jail or with charges.
Are there any good alternatives to discord?
IRC.
If you say where you use instead, that's where the glowies will be.
Good point.
How many people are in that discord? If its thousands of people big surprise that 30 were in it and got canned.
Also they're probably under NDA. I wouldn't be too shocked if the FBI were monitoring one or more members due to a pedo/grooming investigation and got all their communications then leaked to Rockstar about discussing stuff covered by the nda in a non-secure non-company app... in a discord for union organization, so probably including employees from direct competitors. The FBI involvement is some tinfoil hat shit, but the simple NDA breech with competitors seems like gross musconduct, which is what they characterized the firings as.
If it was NDA it would be in the papers to scare everyone else in the industry into following the NDA properly. The FBI could very well have been in the Discord ,( why is anyone using that shit?!) but the FBI isn't telling a company anything during an investigation.
Union busting? Sounds based, honestly.
Attempting to unionize right on the cusp of the release of your multi-billion dollar project meant to last your company a decade+. The timing isn't accidental on either end.
Fuck Unions. I've worked for enough to know what they actually are.
Unions are as good as your effort. What I'm hearing is you never took the time to represent.
I'm on various Mechwarrior 5 discord servers, mostly mod related. It is actually helpful to be there, as I can get help on how to do things in the modmaking field. I also am a beta tester for the developer for Mechwarrior 5, Mercs and Clans both. The place has a strict no politics rule which is enforced, so it is tolerable. I am fully aware of all the warts related to Discord, but in this case, the utility outweighs the negatives.
If you're happy I'm happy for you. I do not use sites full of glowies trying to entrap people.
It annoys me greatly that Discord is where the audience for this stuff is, and that Nexus is the primary vehicle for mods. I'm normally the guy who says not to do this, use the services of our enemies, but...
SO FAR it has been drama free. If discord demands photo ID, or some other craziness, I won't be complying, but that hasn't happened yet.
yet
Telegram taught me the lesson, and I only needed to learn it once. The backend, and updates are where the real privacy violations are.
Wasn’t 6 supposed to come out like 5 years ago?
They’re timing it with the next console release. Their business model is triple dipping. Sell the game once on PS5, then again on PC, then again on PS6. Something like 40% of GTA5 unit sales were from repeat buyers on different platforms. We’re talking billions of dollars in extra revenue just from timing release at the end of the console generation.
Yes. They got meme'd because they said it was good for them not to come out while Trump was in office. That didn't age well at all!
MW5: Mercenaries came out 2019. There have been 7 DLC, with the latest one coming last Sept. MW5: Clans came out last year, with 2 DLC, and a 3rd on the way.