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Catfishing about to get almost undetectable. (twitter.com)
posted 235 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend 235 days ago by SophiesBoyfriend +45 / -0
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– BandageBandolier 21 points 235 days ago +21 / -0

In a classic move it still can't do hand motions, so the anti-catfish strategy is apparently to ask them to do the hand heart symbol or rock out.

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– Devidose 17 points 235 days ago +17 / -0

Retards are still going to behave like retards, though. AR faces can look and sound however someone wants, but when the IQ driving the words is UK room temperature then it's not going to be anywhere near as much of a problem as doomers cry about.

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– Impishdesire 23 points 235 days ago +23 / -0

I think AI hitting a point where videos can no longer be counted as evidence is horrifying.

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– LauriThorne 5 points 235 days ago +5 / -0

Dont you think someone will come up with a way to detect AI video at a software level? Kinda like how every time someone develops new armor piercing technology someone else develops armor that defeats it.

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– Vlad_The_Impaler 6 points 235 days ago +6 / -0

What's the best body armor these days?

Wouldn't mind dropping up to a grand for premium body armor

Especially due to the inevitability of my confrontation with ZOG. You dont want ZOG to gun down your pay Vlad too easy. Suggest a vest.

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– LauriThorne 5 points 235 days ago +5 / -0

Honestly, go ask your local PD. They generally actually test samples. Safe Life is what the state troopers near me get.

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– Bottle_of_Memes 5 points 235 days ago +5 / -0

That kind of arms race can continue for a while, but eventually videos might get literally indistinguishable from the real thing. Any filter that can separate real vs. generated output can also be used directly as a training tool to help new models circumvent that same filter.

Forcing companies to include some kind of watermark in all generated output is another solution but it won't help much against open source models.

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– Noctuner 4 points 235 days ago +4 / -0

This argument never made any sense. The only input you have is the video or picture. If said input is made to 1:1 to what would be a real life file, then it's just an impossible solution.

Simplify this to a single pixel. You crop one pixel from a real life picture, then ask an AI to generate said pixel. Will it do it? Certainly. If on one hand, you have a pixel 150, 0, 50 (RGB values from 0 to 255), and on the other, you have a pixel 150, 0, 50, then it's physically impossible to tell which one is the real one, and which one is the generated one. No matter how good your software is, eventually it all comes down to "Just guess".

Secondly, your software to detect AI-generated content is a similar problem to the cheater / anti-cheat war that's been going in games for the past 3 decades. Guess what? Cheaters have always been winning, every single time. Every time there's an anti-cheat breakthrough and people claim "They did it! Cheaters are gone!", wait 3 months and suddenly a new wave of cheaters is here with even harder to detect methods. If you make a software that detect AI-generated content, all you do is amplify how good AI generation will be, in order to circumvent the AI-detector.

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– Impishdesire 4 points 235 days ago +4 / -0

I don’t know and I’m not making the assumption that A.I. will never be able to create perfectly simulated human movements. In either case there will be a segment of time where AI will be able to create perfect or near perfect videos before humanity has countermeasures against it.

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– DemolitionsPanda 3 points 235 days ago +3 / -0

Convolutional neural networks are a training environment that is automated to train a neural network.

ACME Software Company writes a program that can detect deep fakes. Neat!

Intake ASC DF Detective and plug it into my training environment for my pet neural network.

Every time my NN gets detected, it gets an electric zap. Every time it isn't detected it gets a doggy treat.

Guess what happens after thirty million training cycles?

Thanks for the help Acme Software Company!

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– SR388-SAX 1 point 235 days ago +1 / -0

You're ignoring that AI detection neural networks can also be trained in an adversarial manner against AI generated content.

Yeah, it's possible that AI could eventually be undetectable, but I honestly doubt it.

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– DemolitionsPanda 1 point 234 days ago +1 / -0

I didn't say that AI images would or could be undetectable.

I pointed out that any software or program that detects AI images can be used as a training tool for AI image generation.

It is easier to use an AI detector that looks at file types or digital fingerprints to create training environments for AIs than it is to make AI detectors.

They still could be images with twelve fingers or nonsense writing, they just don't trip the AI detector software that was used for training.

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– Belenus 14 points 235 days ago +14 / -0

about to

No.

Flyin' Buddha @flyinbuddha 13h

This is false. Wan 2.2 is impressive and fast, but not real-time fast - on high-end consumer GPUs, it takes about 1 minute to generate a 5-second clip (roughly 20x slower than real-time), and cloud-based platforms report generation times of several minutes per short video.

It's still not real time and anyone losing their minds over this is probably already getting scammed by Nigerian princes and not reading the actual details of the story.

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– AnAmishWithATude 7 points 235 days ago +7 / -0

The original tweet translated says

In theory, you can go straight to live streaming without issues, and by changing the voice too, a deadbeat otaku can transform into a sexy beauty and go harvest other deadbeat otakus

So he never even claimed otherwise but people are still arguing whether its real or not.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 7 points 235 days ago +7 / -0

don't date e-thots, simple as.

No seriously, now that dating apps are no longer novel, the only type of person you're going to find on a dating app is someone who is terminally online. the only thing worse than being terminally online, is being legally tied to someone whose terminally online.

better to meet someone who lives in the real world.

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– hilboggins 7 points 235 days ago +7 / -0

If they can make an anime girl the vtubing industry will be in shambles

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– GoldenInnosStatue 5 points 235 days ago +5 / -0

Troons are already salivating

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– alucard13mmfmj 5 points 235 days ago +5 / -0

Id like to mention.. western made media never ever uses attractive asian females. The dude here uses girls that are at least 9 out of 10 in asian standards.

Anyways, i guess we quickly approaching the movie surrogate or approaching g.i.r.l. "guy in real life" hehehe.

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– deleted 4 points 235 days ago +4 / -0
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– trumpORbust 3 points 235 days ago +3 / -0

Does it connect to a Fleshlight?

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