This is one of the most bastardized phrases

Mostly because it's not in the Bible.

It's one of those sayings that's basically true, but horribly bastardized. Like "The customer is always right," where they lopped off "-in matters of taste."

Love in modern lingo means "feels good" more so than the actual meaning of "wants the absolute best for." Conversely, hate means "feels bad" vs the much darker core of "wants the absolute worst for." And the conflation of these feelings means that whenever something doesn't always feel good, there must not be love anymore. And when someone makes you feel bad, it must be equivalent to them wanting your entire existence erased.

This unholy oversimplification naturally leans towards the negative, leading to love becoming harder and harder to cultivate, and "hate" springing up everywhere from the cold, unfeeling truths of reality.

Sometimes, what's best for someone is discipline, which doesn't feel good. And wanting what's best for a sinner is for them to stop sinning and being destructive, to themselves and others.

"Forgiveness" and "Love" always came under the assumption the sinner would turn to God and repent.

Let me know when you hear of any repentance any time soon.

/skeleton

helping a junky OD and calling it “love”

Was using that example with someone this weekend. It's exactly their definition of love and it's wrong. I'm no bible scholar, but every bible story I recall of redemption came with regret or repentance or however you want to call it--essentially an actual desire to turn away from sin and try to do right.

I might guess they are bastardizing Romans 12:9 which says "Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good." Maybe because it sounds close.

I genuinely want the best for everyone...but I'm getting awful sick of the sinners, and that nothing is being done to stop them hurting everyone else.

this modern insane definition is the equivalent of helping a junky OD and calling it “love”.

To be fair, they do that retarded shit too. The "kind and loving" left has done more damage to society than the most authoritarian rightwinger ever could.

People who say that don't understand that enabling itself is just as sinful as the sin being committed in the first place.

You must help your brother out if you can, but helping him doesn't mean just absolving him of his sins outright like a naive fool. Help can be cruel, it can be limited, and it can be cut off entirely. All of these things are better for someone at times than pure dopeish "love."

God does not tell you to be tolerant of evil, he tells you to hate evil. You should NEVER celebrate what is unholy, you should denounce it. Pride is evil, homosexuality is evil, living as a transvestite is evil. Any Christian or Church who does celebrate sin as many of them often do with faggotry, is living in rebellion to God’s will.

We should look to the example of Jesus Himself, who drove out the money changers from the temple with a whip (John 2:15). He did not tolerate their wickedness and corruption but took action to remove it from the house of God.

Proverbs 8:13 – “To fear the Lord is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.”

Romans 12:9 – “Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.”

Psalm 101:3 – “I will not look with approval on anything that is vile. I hate what faithless people do; I will have no part in it.”

Amos 5:15 – “Hate evil, love good; maintain justice in the courts. Perhaps the Lord God Almighty will have mercy on the remnant of Joseph.”

Proverbs 13:5 – “The righteous hate what is false, but the wicked make themselves a stench and bring shame on themselves.”

Psalm 119:104 – “I gain understanding from your precepts; therefore I hate every wrong path.”

The actual end of the passage is Jesus explicitly saying to the adulterous Woman "Go forth and sin no more" Implicit in that is if you sin again, it's back to the stoning pile.

Well said, OP….”turn the other cheek” is another phrase from Jesus that’s often misused by Satan’s minions to get Christian’s to go along with their own destruction. Well, that’s what Jesus said so that means you have to let that N’r stab your daughter to death and be nice about it afterward, goyim.

"Spare the rod, spoil the child". "Suffer not a witch to live."

Look, I can quote random things, too.

Love is what we are commanded to do. Love also means that you let your brother/sister know when they are falling. Just as they should lovingly tell you when you are out of line

At some point one can engage in sin so much that they become almost irredeemable. In theory everyone can be saved. In practice? People willingly choose Hell and you need to know when to stop putting water into a leaky bucket.

Love the sinner not the sin: This is true in the same way "Free Love" in 1 cor is true.

Never compromise on morals. But loving a sinner can be allowing them to face the earthly consequences of their sins while you preach the gospel to them. Like Kirk did a lot, our motivations, our meaning, our mentality can all be traced back to good vs evil, the Bible. So speak the truth, and be very discerning who you help and are generous towards. In doing so, you pray that they repent to Jesus before their soul is lost forever.

How do you know if they repent? Repentance involves real change. Nobody who recognizes the full debt of their sin keeps living in sin.

Ideally we have a justice system that actually punishes evil

Love is a Sacral Duty of Care to someone. As such, there is no such concept as loving sin. Loving the sinner is to care for them with such radical empathy and compassion, that you soften their hearts to being able to listen to someone else, in order to actually guide them into doing what's best for them.